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Social Security payments suspended for Americans abroad
Seems to me the article from MSN has an ulterior motive. Some federal programs in the US are being cut and frozen because of what DOGE is uncovering. Although that is not specifically mentioned in the article it does not take much for some minds to think that.
The rules for Foreign Enforcement Questionnaire (SSA-7161/SSA-7162) are very clear. Every year around May-June the forms are sent out and the recipient has 60 days to mail back the form. If you fail to send back the form the SSA will send out a second form giving the recipient another 45 days to respond. If the recipient still does not answer then the following year in January the payments will be stopped. In reality SSA gives you about 6 months to answer before payments stop.
Personally I receive my SS pension every 3rd of the month. It is electronically deposited to my dollar account in Banco Popular since 2016. Can't complain about my set up.
Enjoy the rest of the evening folks...
The rules for Foreign Enforcement Questionnaire (SSA-7161/SSA-7162) are very clear. Every year around May-June the forms are sent out and the recipient has 60 days to mail back the form. If you fail to send back the form the SSA will send out a second form giving the recipient another 45 days to respond. If the recipient still does not answer then the following year in January the payments will be stopped. In reality SSA gives you about 6 months to answer before payments stop.
Personally I receive my SS pension every 3rd of the month. It is electronically deposited to my dollar account in Banco Popular since 2016. Can't complain about my set up.
Enjoy the rest of the evening folks...
Mine always comes around the 12th of each month. I can sign into the SSA website and see when the next payment will be made.
I know nothing of the US system, but for Europe, this is obviously true for some benefits (unemployment etc.) but for pension for example, it should not matter where in the world you are located in my opinion. Whether or not you'd be in your home country or not, you would not be working anymore. In my country's case, many people had legitimate reasons for being in Spain for instance, health reasons for example. Now there are people who are either forced into being homeless in Spain or move back up north to continue receiving their full pension. Keep in mind, they might have lived for years and years in Spain, and receiving their pension just fine, but now, due to the economy going to the gutter, govt saves and decides this. There have been many complaints.
The U.S. doesn't really care where you live either. They are only trying to stop monthly checks going to dead folks.
One of the things DOGE has encountered is persons in the U.S. receiving SS checks who are 150 yrs. old.
One of the things DOGE has encountered is persons in the U.S. receiving SS checks who are 150 yrs. old.
Question, who reports the death to SS if the person has no family? Would the checks just keep coming or being deposited?
In the states the funeral home generally reports deaths. Overseas the death must be reported by family or friends to the local US Embassy...
This is the greatest scam going. SS payments to dead folks via BP Puerto Rico. I don’t know if they can go directly to BP DR. Withdrawn in DR by surviving family with an ATM card. This has gone on for years. Both legalized and fraudulent SSN holders. Millions.
U.S funeral homes report the death to SS, they get a two-hundred-dollar payment from SS for reporting it.
I wonder if the US gov doesn’t know someone left and hasn’t return. No US citizen can travel abroad without a US passport…
what monies would those be? Your SS entitlement you earned, you can get it no matter where you live.
The thread was all about how the US government was suspending some payments to expats. I was just pointing out that the US government is completely aware of where you are living, they have a full database of everyone's travel movements from passports and airlines filing passenger lists. I have no idea how the US system works, I just don't think it's sensible to try to pretend you aren't living abroad and hope they won't notice.
Funeral homes in general do so: https://www.ssa.gov/personal-record/when-someone-dies
But, that would be in the USA. Here, the answer would be nobody, and hence where those pesky annual confirmation letters come in to play.
Most likely if the SSA is not informed of the death in the DR or other foreign countries. The letters SSA sends via USPS and must receive back by USPS within certain dates are the reason those identified living in foreign countries must comply or get cut off as if they were dead. It is the best they can do.
Correct you should get SSA payments until death anywhere in the world. The point is that the conformation of life letters SSA sends and must receive are awkward to deal with for those getting them in foreign lands. In a place like the DR where INPOSDOM is non-functional, places like EPS come into play, but they take a long time to receive and send letters. So you could miss the window time the SSA mandates and have issues with payments being cut off. Time the SSA entered the modern age and got rid of snail mail, but hen we face other methods of fraud.. It is best to never have to get these letters...
The government is not "aware" of where you are. Law enforcement agencies like the FBI can track where you are IF they want to but that requires a warrant. The S.S.A. is definitely not tracking where you are nor do they have the authority to do so. Living in a foreign country and depositing your money in a US bank is not a crime. You're not understanding the purpose of filing the form for those who have their money deposited here.
There are only TWO ways you can sign up for this nightmare. Either renew your passport from the DR, or join one of the US Embassy "Help" programs. The only help is to torture you....The choice is yours and yours alone............Of course if you have your SS deposited here you are a dead duck.....
They don't care where you live as long as you pay your taxes.
The IRS doesn't know that I'm in the DR either. Every year I check the box that I have a foreign bank account, list the banks, and report the interest. They don't care where I live. They're happy that I'm paying y taxes!
Unless you are wanted, an ex-con or otherwise evading the law, there is no reason to have your SSI deposited in a foreign bank. You simply have it sent to your normal US bank and then you perform the money movement of your choice to DR. I know based on hundreds of posts on this site that that sounds very complicated, but it's actually mind numbingly simple.
Furthermore, the halt of SSI payments to folks as described by the title of this thread is reason 1. Although this dragnet, as I mentioned above, is mostly to catch foreign fraudsters and their families for example continuing to collect benefits after death. There is also a major scam via Puerto Rico/DR where they dragnet to stop the yola population who fraudulently obtained residency and citizenship in order to further scam real tax paying Americans. They withdraw the fraudulent benefit at super pola ATM and buy bad salami and smelly wet cheese for the whole group of sad lambones.
In finishing, Cavok is correct for those of you who thought there is an app notification when US citizens travel around the globe. The various departments do not have connected databases. These systems are antiquated, silo oriented and resource heavy. If your SSN produces a red flag then the State Dept is notified, MAYBE. Blocks on passports are produced in this fashion and for the same reason, also quite difficult to undo.
Bottom line is pedos, mules, general delinquents or other bad credit flight riskers moving around the world will never have a life other than cash which is becoming exceptionally hard to pull off. Be cool, stay in school, work a job, pay your bills and keep your US bank account. Then there's never a need to post on a public forum how to get cash from one country to the next!
God bless.
Furthermore, the halt of SSI payments to folks as described by the title of this thread is reason 1. Although this dragnet, as I mentioned above, is mostly to catch foreign fraudsters and their families for example continuing to collect benefits after death. There is also a major scam via Puerto Rico/DR where they dragnet to stop the yola population who fraudulently obtained residency and citizenship in order to further scam real tax paying Americans. They withdraw the fraudulent benefit at super pola ATM and buy bad salami and smelly wet cheese for the whole group of sad lambones.
In finishing, Cavok is correct for those of you who thought there is an app notification when US citizens travel around the globe. The various departments do not have connected databases. These systems are antiquated, silo oriented and resource heavy. If your SSN produces a red flag then the State Dept is notified, MAYBE. Blocks on passports are produced in this fashion and for the same reason, also quite difficult to undo.
Bottom line is pedos, mules, general delinquents or other bad credit flight riskers moving around the world will never have a life other than cash which is becoming exceptionally hard to pull off. Be cool, stay in school, work a job, pay your bills and keep your US bank account. Then there's never a need to post on a public forum how to get cash from one country to the next!
God bless.