Sosúa Beach Renovations

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Many cruise tourists go daily. Grab a chair near the parking lot part of the beach and around 11am you'll see them bussed in and walking the beach to board one of the boats. I forget the name of the double decker boat "King" something.
The Ocean King...
But not only buses are coming to the beach, also daily taxis arrive with people from the cruise ships (yes we can distinguish them from the local ones the drivers are using different uniforms).
 
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CristoRey

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Posters keep referring to they when talking about the beach shacks. Who are they?
The "they" I have been referring to are the Muppets heading up this project, not the beach shack folks. Be them government or public/ private contractors who came up with this wonderful design plan. It's not even half way finished and I'll be the first to say "they"'ve already failed miserably.
 

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I would like to know who came up with the information that this part would be the parking for the beach? The land is owned by the Paliza and Ilanas husbands family and has as far I know nothing to do with the beach renovation....
That has been the speculation since this thing has started. It's directly across from the plazas and being worked on at the same time. I suppose that is why?
 

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You never know, but some parking to go along with all this concrete would be rational...wait, scratch the rational...
 
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The "they" I have been referring to are the Muppets heading up this project, not the beach shack folks. Be them government or public/ private contractors who came up with this wonderful design plan. It's not even half way finished and I'll be the first to say "they"'ve already failed miserably.
I agree - terrible design. Apparently, they wanted to accommodate all the existing vendors, but it's one thing to have 170 vendors stretched across a half mile of beach, and quite another to cram them into two plazas. The result is what you see.
 

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The hill across the road from the plaza will be a problem but the real problem is the area across from Charamicos where the landslide occured.

Wellington De Jesus Martinez Facebook page does a pretty good job covering it.

They appear to have placed some temporary cement blocks but they are not going to solve the problem.
Looks like they may have a major future excavation operation on their hands since future rains will certainly compound the problem

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Interesting read indeed. Lots of exemptions. This one struck me:
" The incentives for provisional approval include: Exemption from the requirement to legally establish the company"

Any idea what that means?
I'm guessing that since Sosua S.A.S. already exists, all you need to do is buy the shares. No need to establish a company(?).
 
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windeguy

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I thought they were planning to put a parking lot for buses/cars on the other side of the highway but that did not make sense too, given the perils of crossing the highway on foot and the risk of mudslides down the hill
I had heard the rumor there was going to be a walking bridge overpass. But that is just a rumor.
 

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So the owners are the original family?
Yes . The family name of the land owners behind Sosua Public Beach is Pastoriza (not positive on the exact spelling of that name) .
They are the ones that donated the lands for the Plazas and are expected to build condos on their land behind the beach. I had heard they own the land
on both sides of route 5.
 
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windeguy

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Who are "they" that everyone keeps referring to? Just who are these evil villains that are destroying Sosua Beach?
The government is destroying the illegal squalid shacks on the 60 meter public zone. Pretty simple concept really.
The government is controlling the plazas at each end.

If any shacks are on private land, there might be a few, the land owner can have at them and revmove them as well.

The owners of the land behind the beach and up the hill also , Pastoriza (SP?) well, they will be building eventually.
As has been pointed out above with the link to that opportunity.
 

windeguy

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I always thought carving out that hill like that was a huge mistake. It should have never been approved.
I thought they just did it, the clearing.

As for the washouts in that region on the beach, the road to Los Cerros. etc. We did have massive rains and with those rains there are many problems caused regionally. Including a landslide not far west from the beach that was natural until the rains.

I guess they got some clean up work in that area of Sosua as well.

That road is very unsafe from what one can see in the picture. The various erosions will only get worse.
 

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I would like to know who came up with the information that this part would be the parking for the beach? The land is owned by the Paliza and Ilanas husbands family and has as far I know nothing to do with the beach renovation....
In the announcement for the work on the beach, a large number of parking spaces was mentioned, on the order of 300 of them.
The speculation was that the cleared land on the south side of route 5 would be those parking spaces. It only seemed to make senses since there is no other place flat enough near there. Since the Palizas own that, well, never mind...

Parking is then unknown for now.
 

windeguy

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The plaza area on the El Batey side looks much more small and they are still in the groundworks phase ??!!
Wouldn't that side technically be busier due to being closer to the touristy side ?

Unless they plan on having all the buses/cruise tour vans stop at the Charamicos end.

Probably has to do with how much land the family land owners gave to the government at each end.
Cruise peop;e can be dropped off at either end.
I think it was Danny, the owner of the erstwhile Malibu's who said in a video that he liked Sosua out of all the beaches he had been too (before he moved to Thailand, of course)
Danny didn't listen and went off to Thailand for his next adventure. He believed those around him who said the redevelopment would never happen instead of seeing what the government was doing.
 

windeguy

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Putting this clean up, including another small part of Sosua calld Pedro Clisante, the style of the plazas, etc, alongside working with Cruise Ship companies, a company to build condos in the private areas behind the beach, does cast this in a brighter light, no?

All fresh and shiney in that light as it all becomes clear.
 

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The hill across the road from the plaza will be a problem but the real problem is the area across from Charamicos where the landslide occured.

Wellington De Jesus Martinez Facebook page does a pretty good job covering it.

They appear to have placed some temporary cement blocks but they are not going to solve the problem.
Looks like they may have a major future excavation operation on their hands since future rains will certainly compound the problem

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What's funny is them placing concrete road barricades in front of the landslide. That won't even slow it down but it will make it much harder for the excavator to clean the mud with concrete barricades buried under tons of mud.
This is just a saturated hillside that couldn't take anymore - like a quiet husband listening to incessant nagging from his wife and he finally had enough and just let go.