The DR's Shameful Complicity

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According to Dominican Today over 500 inmates escaped a Haitian prison as armed gangs seize Mirebalais, Haiti. Safe to say we can expect more violence as a result.

I wonder how many will end up over here?
 

NALs

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Just recently the Instituto Duartiano got a new president, Dr Julio Manuel Rodríguez.

About a day or two ago he gave a speech where he said Dominicans need to learn to live with the Haitians, etc. This echoes other similar things he has said in the past. Well, this wasn’t nicely accepted by several people in the media. That’s strike one. Some research on him was done and they found he is an Honorable Member of the Haitian Pediatric Society. Well, that’s strike two…

In April 3 was made public that a new meeting of the General Assembly of the Instituto Duartiano will take place in April 26. It’s assumed he will be forced to renounce (or removed from the position even if he doesn’t want to.) This might be the shortest President of Instituto Duartiano in its entire history.

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Btw, Instituto Duartiano doesn’t just have many offices throughout the DR (I think even naturalized Dominicans can become members of the Instituto Duartiano in any of their offices, no need to travel to SD), but also in several other countries including quite a few in the USA (New York, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Florida, etc.)
 

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How do the gangs get money to buy the guns? It is not as if Haiti is an economic powerhouse.
Buying, smuggling/shipping takes money and I assume buying illegally takes more money. Nobody takes these risks for free.

If the money supply to the gun/ammo buyers is turned off, even the guns already in Haiti will eventually become useless unless the gangs can manufacture their own ammo.

I do not have knowledge of this so if any of you know, please share.
 

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How do the gangs get money to buy the guns? It is not as if Haiti is an economic powerhouse.
Buying, smuggling/shipping takes money and I assume buying illegally takes more money. Nobody takes these risks for free.

If the money supply to the gun/ammo buyers is turned off, even the guns already in Haiti will eventually become useless unless the gangs can manufacture their own ammo.

I do not have knowledge of this so if any of you know, please share.
About the only thing I can contribute to this is that the majority of the financing comes from Haitian ex pats, mainly in Florida. They want the status quo because they don't want a true free country. I'm sure a small amount of funding comes from internal shake downs, but as you point out, Haiti is not wealthy.

There is a 1% or so of elites, all Haitians but not all black that make a ton of money on illegal commerce there. When I was there I knew a Haitian/Lebanese money changer very well. He was not one to fuck with.

I'm sure there are many more sordid details that I'm unaware of, but that's what I know to be true.
 
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How do the gangs get money to buy the guns? It is not as if Haiti is an economic powerhouse.
Buying, smuggling/shipping takes money and I assume buying illegally takes more money. Nobody takes these risks for free.

If the money supply to the gun/ammo buyers is turned off, even the guns already in Haiti will eventually become useless unless the gangs can manufacture their own ammo.

I do not have knowledge of this so if any of you know, please share.
Drug sales and extortion
 

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How do the gangs get money to buy the guns? It is not as if Haiti is an economic powerhouse.
Buying, smuggling/shipping takes money and I assume buying illegally takes more money. Nobody takes these risks for free.

If the money supply to the gun/ammo buyers is turned off, even the guns already in Haiti will eventually become useless unless the gangs can manufacture their own ammo.

I do not have knowledge of this so if any of you know, please share.
That doesn’t mean the place has no money, just not enough for the size of its population.

Just the size of Haiti’s GDP is at least $26 billion. Not enough for a country with a population the size of Haiti’s, but that makes Haiti’s GDP bigger than most places in the Caribbean.

This is just to show there is wealth there, even as poor as it looks.

How much money keeps the gangs functioning on a yearly basis? I doubt $1 billion.
 
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