The future of Sosua

[ctrob]

Enjoy the circus, time for the beach, they haven't closed that one yet.... !!!?

Phase Two. Stay tuned.

 

[ohmmmm]

johne. It is so simple. Whore mongers do not like the change. That's it.

Some insist nothing will change, nothing has changed, etc. They will say that next week everything will be back to what was normal up until last night. They will insist that if things are not back to normal that all of the 50,000 people living in Sosua will riot on the streets to bring back the hookers to a small part of Pedro Clisante. I think not

You are a posting machine. You Are now putting words in other peoples mouths. ? I never heard anyone say any of this. Tranquila buddy

 

[ohmmmm]

Phase Two. Stay tuned.

Yes, the beach renovation has been planned for a long time...

 

[drstock]

I had lunch on Sosua beach today. As a matter of interest, many scantily clad young ladies walking around, some talking to gringos. So they haven't completely cleaned the place up yet!

 

[wrecksum]

I'm trying to fully understand why Sosua is so important to the expats. I'm not exactly naive about what Sosua represents to the male population but.... Look at in this light. If you are not a bar or restaurant owner, why does this "shutdown" bother you? If it is because you will lose your favorite watering hole, there are a gazillion others. If you think hoes will be wiped from the face of the earth, read the history book. That being said what is the over riding factor that has made Sosua so important that here on this tread 152 pages have been generated because a mayor wants its shut down.

I'm only addressing the expats because when the iconic image of Sousa changes the Internet will let the world know " the old Sousa has been buried ". I can understand if you bought a home there thinking that lifestyle would last forever. Well, nothing stays the same. Maybe you will like the new better? In the meantime, I'm still confused about what is the big deal about closing the old down.

There is an important 'trickle down' effect.
Once the respect for the rules go out of the window then chaos can flourish.There will be an immediate increase of out of work people.We are not talking about the girls, but the service industry which supplies the tourist business. This goes from souvenir sellers,salons,grocery stores,mama guineos,moto conchos taxis,hotels,etc.all the way to laying off staff at the main airport,which is already happening.
If you deliberately destroy an existing structure before putting in its place an alternative or a safety net then this must lead to hardship and possible increase in crime and unrest.
There is no social plan for suddenly fired employees and no compensation for business owners.No pampers and leche and no rent for the casita.

What could possibly go wrong?

Those who say that this is from a higher level have to explain all the other towns with girly bars and brothels,still open and not 10 Km away from here.Imagining that the 'Big Nobs' in Santo Domingo give a monkey's toss about a provincial North coast village is a bit far-fetched.No money or votes in that.

This has been her pet peeve since she got in, and before, and she got Brito and Lacassani (since removed,) on board to take it up to the top.

In a banana republic you control the capital and the rest will follow on.The money's there,not in a run-down tourist resort.
Their bucks are in Punta Cana anyway.

 

[slowmo]

I'm trying to fully understand why Sosua is so important to the expats. I'm not exactly naive about what Sosua represents to the male population but.... Look at in this light. If you are not a bar or restaurant owner, why does this "shutdown" bother you? If it is because you will lose your favorite watering hole, there are a gazillion others. If you think hoes will be wiped from the face of the earth, read the history book. That being said what is the over riding factor that has made Sosua so important that here on this tread 152 pages have been generated because a mayor wants its shut down.

I'm only addressing the expats because when the iconic image of Sousa changes the Internet will let the world know " the old Sousa has been buried ". I can understand if you bought a home there thinking that lifestyle would last forever. Well, nothing stays the same. Maybe you will like the new better? In the meantime, I'm still confused about what is the big deal about closing the old down.

I can't speak for others but my concern is that this nonsense will move to my favorite watering hole, not from my favorite watering hole. On the positive side, my rent just went down.

 

[ramesses]

I bet you that I won't need to pre book a room in Sosua this high season. Plenty of empty rooms.

 

[lifeisgreat]

Im gonna have to contradict myself or correct my previous opinion ,and respectfully also disagree with you at this time ..
I think This time they mean it . and its coming from up TOP . it was a long time coming.. but imho at this time, they are going to SHUT down Sosua as we know it .. no more IN YOUR FACE Hookers .
Iliana is just a silly poster girl for " Saving girls ", which as we all know is complete BS... no one is saving anyone.
Businesses will be completely destroyed , especially Hotels now.
And as to moving the Bars to the OTHER end of town .. only a Complete FOOL would invest in such ridiculous foolishness.
I would rather burn a bag of Money than invest in Sosua .. This is a lawless town right now . and THEN eventually it will get NICE ... perhaps very nice , but before that happens IMHO, all heck will break loose.... some of us been saying Crime will skyrocket for a while .... now you will get to SEE it . I am staying far Clear or this town .


You are correct on other points , but this one you are 100% WRONG on ..
give it less than a month , crime will skyrocket ..

Respectfully disagree...10 yrs ago in the high of it all you couldn’t walk the the street without getting grabbed with or without wife made no difference and crime was at peek lawyers getting bumped off , all sorts of shenanigans..since then 1/2 the problem on the streets ..crime has gone down...most crime is committed by outsiders coming in ,no one likes peeing in there own backyard ...they gave the mongering community another chance east end with enough rope to hang them selves... where I see a problem is the foot traffic between the twin cities poorly lit dark lonely rd...

 

[lifeisgreat]

I had lunch on Sosua beach today. As a matter of interest, many scantily clad young ladies walking around, some talking to gringos. So they haven't completely cleaned the place up yet!

Where they offering discount? Since their DR Stock value is down :bunny:

 

[Ken]

If you were in Sosua last night you know that there was a town-wide blackout about 10 pm and that shortly thereafter armed police and soldiers rolled into town and started closing bars. The timing of the blackout was not a coincidence.

The bars could have been closed during the day, but the organizers wanted to make an impression on those who frequent them.

Must have been something to see. All the lights go off, people are milling around, suddenly the police and soldiers are there closing the bars.

My only complaint is that due to what turned out to be a battery problem the generator at El Neptuno didn't come on so all of us at home here at 10 sat in the dark until close to 12 when the power came back on.

 

[LindseyKaufman]

If you were in Sosua last night you know that there was a town-wide blackout about 10 pm and that shortly thereafter armed police and soldiers rolled into town and started closing bars. The timing of the blackout was not a coincidence.

The bars could have been closed during the day, but the organizers wanted to make an impression on those who frequent them.

Must have been something to see. All the lights go off, people are milling around, suddenly the police and soldiers are there closing the bars.

My only complaint is that due to what turned out to be a battery problem the generator at El Neptuno didn't come on so all of us at home here at 10 sat in the dark until close to 12 when the power came back on.

I am weary of reading this thread. Had given up - until I read that YOU responded, Ken! We haven't heard from you in awhile. Glad to know that you are still around and still offering your wisdom.

Lindsey

 

[Tricky]

If you were in Sosua last night you know that there was a town-wide blackout about 10 pm and that shortly thereafter armed police and soldiers rolled into town and started closing bars. The timing of the blackout was not a coincidence.

The bars could have been closed during the day, but the organizers wanted to make an impression on those who frequent them.

Must have been something to see. All the lights go off, people are milling around, suddenly the police and soldiers are there closing the bars.

My only complaint is that due to what turned out to be a battery problem the generator at El Neptuno didn't come on so all of us at home here at 10 sat in the dark until close to 12 when the power came back on.

Slight correction. They started the closures with Bourbon Street at exactly 10 (I was there) The power went off about 15 minutes later as hordes of police roamed from business to business. And yes it was an interesting sight. Thankfully nobody lit a firecracker because I'm not sure how those kids with the semi automatic weapons would react in the dark.

 

[lifeisgreat]

https://sosuaone.com/home/2019/11/7/classicos-in-sosua-closed-down-again-plus-the-rest-of-the-strip

 

[ramesses]

I feel sorry for all those that have lost their jobs and the ones who will in the future. Tough times for people who do not need more tough times.

 

[windeguy]

Every dog has it's day, and today they closed a few bars, please come back here in two or three years and tell me how Sosua has changed, cleaned up, can't even do it with a big tanker full of bleach... ! (all that corruption goes on here...)

Remember how they put all the overstay grannies on the school bus and shipped them to Puerto Plata and you guys screamed that is the end of overstay, well, this is DR and we have seen all this before in Sosua, hell, an old guy told me they closed 13 bars in 1998 in one night raid...! you got that, 1998, now they are still closing bars in 2019, let me see, if we are still alive in say ???? we may see some more bar closures... ! lol

And for your info we are not against change/clean up, but we are against this unruly approach that is going on for so long, we want organised, planned and managed approach to benefit all, not the few. What places closed and what left open last night, what rules or regulations they followed...? I bet those left open were the ones with deep pockets and connections and who managed to wink at the mayor last night at dinner... !

Enjoy the circus, time for the beach, they haven't closed that one yet.... !!!?

Organized and planned change. Now that is the funniest thing I heard this month.

People were warned a year ago. They ignored the warnings. That is way more planning than anything else I ever heard of in the DR.

I don't expect anything will be better. Just a lower visibility of whores is all. I guess if only that happens, some will think it is better.

 

[windeguy]

https://sosuaone.com/home/2019/11/7/classicos-in-sosua-closed-down-again-plus-the-rest-of-the-strip

That about sums it up. A year or more of notice. Move or close. Head east monger man.

 

[CristoRey]

I really don't mind that all the bars get moved away or even shut down. However, what is the plan for all those empty buildings? Empty buildings are worse for tourism than any type of bar. Tourists don't like walking by boarded up dark areas.

I think now we'll see whether or not the Chinese are interested in
buying Sosua. Wouldn't surprise me at all to start seeing them snatching
up places where these "types" of businesses are no longer going to be
able to operate.

 

[lifeisgreat]

That about sums it up. A year or more of notice. Move or close. Head east monger man.

The last warning was Halloween you must close or relocate...I’m still eating popcorn waiting patiently for part 2 ...you just can’t make this $hit up , boy do I luv the DR..

 

[Astucia]

There is an important 'trickle down' effect.
Once the respect for the rules go out of the window then chaos can flourish.There will be an immediate increase of out of work people.We are not talking about the girls, but the service industry which supplies the tourist business. This goes from souvenir sellers,salons,grocery stores,mama guineos,moto conchos taxis,hotels,etc.all the way to laying off staff at the main airport,which is already happening.
If you deliberately destroy an existing structure before putting in its place an alternative or a safety net then this must lead to hardship and possible increase in crime and unrest.
There is no social plan for suddenly fired employees and no compensation for business owners.No pampers and leche and no rent for the casita.

Well said Wrecksum. Unfortunately - This is the future of Sosua ( at least in the short-term )

 

[CristoRey]

That about sums it up. A year or more of notice. Move or close. Head east monger man.

Only one question remains...
How many good local people did these Muppets just put out of work?
and they're not the only ones you should be concerned about.

Having lived in Charamicos I can tell you, a lot of
those guys who we often refer to as "hanger ons" running around El Batey
every night clinging to tourist to make a few bucks, will just as well start
robbing you or breaking into your homes to in order to feed their daily drug
habbits.

Hopefully the new "entertainment" area down the street opens soon and coushins
the blow for some of these folks and therefor no noticeable increase in crime.