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Tragedy in Santiago; policeman accused of accidentally killing a child
I would say that the macho "never back down" attitude is pretty common among Dominicans. Maybe even more so when showing off to the kids.
I have just looked again at the video showing the young boy just having been shot and slumped on the wall just outside the shop. Many many people close by and many police who did nothing for the young boy and then the distraught father is bundled into a police van . The young police look all to be in their twenties but only the shooter had his face half masked. The music was from further down the street. The scuffle was nothing and another man was mainly involved, not the father although he was there.
undereducated and unsophisticated people have a problem with authority. My manliness is not called into question because a uniformed individual told me to turn down the radio or directed me to turn around because the road is closed. I respect the police.
The police should be respected when they behave respectably.
In some places police can be/are like firemen. In other places they act like Gestapo/criminals.
In general I don't argue with people who are armed. If I disagree I go someplace where they aren't. If they come to my inner sanctum with violent intentions and there is no opportunity for diplomacy and I have few/no other options I will defend myself with force but it's always best to fight with the mind instead of the force of arms.
Arguing with people who are armed is a bad practice. Whether they are the police or not. There are other, better options/courses of action.
In some places police can be/are like firemen. In other places they act like Gestapo/criminals.
In general I don't argue with people who are armed. If I disagree I go someplace where they aren't. If they come to my inner sanctum with violent intentions and there is no opportunity for diplomacy and I have few/no other options I will defend myself with force but it's always best to fight with the mind instead of the force of arms.
Arguing with people who are armed is a bad practice. Whether they are the police or not. There are other, better options/courses of action.
The problem Mr Big is that maybe the people in that street of Santiago are under educated and unsophisticated as are the majority of Dominicans.
the Police are tasked with keeping law and order. Challenging them is more telling of the citizen than the P.D.
The main reason I posted these videos is for people to see how the "authorities" respond when a child gets shot at one of the country's largest outdoor fevistals in broad daylight.
You can all watch the videos and judge for yourselves whether or not their actions were appropriate. It's certainly something some of you may want to take into consideration prior to attending outdoor events with your children in the future.
You really believe that is their charge?
The police are an armed group who are paid. They are charged with following the orders of those who pay their salaries. And as much as we might want to pretend it is "the taxpayers" those are not the people who set the budget nor oversee the distribution of funding.
well certainly at a Carnival celebration that doesn't have any real cultural significance here, other than a reason to get drunk and pick pocket people.
if you don't believe their job is to protect life and property, Go down to the Zona Colonial. They tolerate almost zero crime.
Bottom line for me is the Father Knows how these Cops are , and should NOT have put his Son in Harms way , by challenging the Police .
These DR police do not hesitate to fire their Weapons . Not turning down the Excessively loud music is one thing , putting his kid in danger was very irresponsible .
These DR police do not hesitate to fire their Weapons . Not turning down the Excessively loud music is one thing , putting his kid in danger was very irresponsible .
They basically left a young child to die and the PN who fired the shots left scene immediately afterwards according to witnesses. Not much cultural significance in that either I suppose.
Well the family live in Cienfuegos, a fairly bad barrio. The street where it happened is a commercial street.
it could of all been avoided. It goes like this. "Yes, officer I understand." " I will comply." That is the example that any responsible parent would display.
Officer could have easily walked up with a hand shake and instead of barking orders as well. I've been here long enough to have seen both types of approaches. One works a lot better than the other.
The thing is that in most cases the cops come to take the speaker away not just to tell you to turn the music down, and then when you go to the station to get your speaker back you gotta give them money. It's a racket.
The boy was not near his father.. In the amateur video, the policeman had an altercation with a man and then the father became involved but this was on the street ..the boy and many other people were on the footpath away from the incident ..the four bullets fired by the policeman could have killed any of the people in that street . There was absolutely no need for the policeman to draw his gun because there were other police in the street to assist him. All is shown on a video.
Story has definitely gained some traction. Wondering if it will be picked up by the international news organizations now that this Sunday's activities have been cancelled.
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