Uber in Santo Domingo

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Last Sunday I took my chances with the Tuv Sud app which I deleted after hearing that Marte was behind that company but added again to try it out. I asked on the app to be picked up. According to the app it would be 8 minutes, after 30seconds I got a call from the base to ask exact address because they couldn't see it well in the system. Cab came about 10 minutes later. I asked him again about Uber and made reference to what Marte had said about it. He lashed out against Marte, stating the guy is an idiot that doesn't no what he's talking about. He said: none of us (the Tuv Sud taxi drivers, who by the way aren't all employees and many own their Tuv Sud vehicle) will jump over the Uber drivers with sticks and stones to get them out. He said they welcome the competition and are confidence their servo is better.

He gave me some reasons why Uber wouldn't be that good (not really valid reasons, actually based on not knowing well how it works, like that you can not easily make a double trip 'because you pay via the system in advance' which is not true, you pay after the service is done based on distance and time). And he claimed that the Uber system allows for picking up another passenger on the route, which many clients don't realize. I haven't heard if that's true, I doubt it, but if so, just tell the driver you don't want that.

I must say Tuv Sud gives a good service albeit a bit expensive, he charged me (after asking the central) 250 pesos from las Praderas to Camino chiquito. I had only 220 on me which he accepted. With Apolo taxi it would have been 200 max.



He is clueless. I do double and triple stops with uber all the time. Also they never pick up other people. . .ever.

I have used TUV Sud and willing to pay extra because the cars are newer and the drivers more professional. Uber still wins as the app is better, it just works in most places I travel. No more need to have n app for miami, one for texas, one for brasil, one for colombia etc. BTW the colombia app was most uber like.

I think Uber could do well with Uber english. I know plenty of people that would love to have english speaking drivers.
 

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Uber does give a SHARE OPTION but I have never used the share option. The prices are great and the service is reliable. In
the states, the cars are in good repair and clean.
 

Tamborista

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Uber does give a SHARE OPTION but I have never used the share option. The prices are great and the service is reliable. In
the states, the cars are in good repair and clean.

In Nueva Yol, it's called Via, and $5 get you ANYWHERE from 125th to FiDi in a shared black Suburban or GMC that is usually empty.
 

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This whole Uber story is quite the anticipatory rollercoaster. It would be such a great addition to every community. More people would be out and about spending money and helping the economy.
 

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Well, I just went to their site to sign up, and when I tried Sosua, Puerto Plata, and Santiago is wouldn't let me create and account and said that "Sorry, the city you selected isn't available yet". When I put in Santo Domingo, it let me create an account and continue.
 

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Conatra has already spoken - they "will not allow" Uber:

http://tamarcao.com/conatra-advierte-que-no-permitira-servicios-de-uber-en-el-pais/

computer-mangled translation:

Conatra warned not allow Uber services in the country

Posted on October 30, 2015 by Fabio

SANTO DOMINGO. The president of the National Confederation of Transport (Conatra), Antonio Marte, warned yesterday that will not allow operation in the country of the taxi company Uber, if not fits the bill.

At a press conference, the leader choferil said foreign company must uphold the law 76-00 establishes the requirements for the operation of taxis, as he was required to your company Tuv Sud.

"And that company closing and going to go here, because we will not allow this country, because it is not true that will come to displace more than 28,000 taxis," he said.

Clarify that I oppose the modernization of services, and proof of this is that two years operating a platform through smartphones that offers good service to citizens. Mars said it would appeal to legal remedies to prevent Uber operate outside the law.

He said Uber does not guarantee security to the citizens, because anyone who wants to use his vehicle to transport people can do without being registered, however customers Tuv Sud can be sure that taxi drivers are persons registered in a system are duly identified and uniformed.

He insisted that the foreign company will cause more chaos in traffic, because most people only use your vehicle for transport to their jobs and homes, he also used as taxi.

Mars called on the government to respect its investment as any other business activity in the Dominican Republic and avoid a taxi company as Uber installed in the country protected by unfair competition.

The choferil leader blamed the government for what happens in transport.
 

MikeFisher

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Conatra has already spoken - they "will not allow" Uber:

http://tamarcao.com/conatra-advierte-que-no-permitira-servicios-de-uber-en-el-pais/

computer-mangled translation:

Conatra warned not allow Uber services in the country

Posted on October 30, 2015 by Fabio

SANTO DOMINGO. The president of the National Confederation of Transport (Conatra), Antonio Marte, warned yesterday that will not allow operation in the country of the taxi company Uber, if not fits the bill.

At a press conference, the leader choferil said foreign company must uphold the law 76-00 establishes the requirements for the operation of taxis, as he was required to your company Tuv Sud.

"And that company closing and going to go here, because we will not allow this country, because it is not true that will come to displace more than 28,000 taxis," he said.

Clarify that I oppose the modernization of services, and proof of this is that two years operating a platform through smartphones that offers good service to citizens. Mars said it would appeal to legal remedies to prevent Uber operate outside the law.

He said Uber does not guarantee security to the citizens, because anyone who wants to use his vehicle to transport people can do without being registered, however customers Tuv Sud can be sure that taxi drivers are persons registered in a system are duly identified and uniformed.

He insisted that the foreign company will cause more chaos in traffic, because most people only use your vehicle for transport to their jobs and homes, he also used as taxi.

Mars called on the government to respect its investment as any other business activity in the Dominican Republic and avoid a taxi company as Uber installed in the country protected by unfair competition.

The choferil leader blamed the government for what happens in transport.

you need a new translation software, lol.
basically,
Marte is right, i agree with him.
doesn't matter how other countries rule their public transportation,
here in this country every vehicle and every driver has to be registered, plain and simple.
why should the existing transfer/transportation companies liek the Taxistas, continue to pay their Taxes/Fees/renovations etc for their vehicle and driver registrations,
when every private person with a vehicle can work as a competitor without any registration/without those added costs of a Transfer Business?
i run also vehicles here for transportation of my customers,
without beeing member of any Union or such(this theme is basically NOT about Unions etc),
such vehicles cost quiet a load of money per year to be allowed to Transfer my own customers between Hotels and Marina.
if private persons are allowed to do such rides just because they "register" with a private online plattform named Uber,
then i ask WHY should i continue to pay fees and fees and taxes and fees to be allowed to transport the own customers in this country? it would be sufficient to use our own private Vans for those transfers, privately "registered" with a Mike's Marina online App on a smartphone.
to run transfer vehicles is in reality so expensive over the year(again, i am not talking about Union Mafia thingies for specific taxi routes or such), that since a couple years i moved very most of my own transfers to be done by bigger Transfer Companies, which exist in a large number here in the area.
as i use the own vehicles only for the own customers, do not occupy them with other transfers all day long/24-7, to hire a 3rd party Transfer Company is cheaper than to run a own fleet of registered vehicles.
to allow private persons to act/work as transfer drivers/vehicles with Uber,
means the DR has to change their Laws about registrations of Taxis AND Tourist Transfer Vehicles/Companies.
you can't allow some to compete on such high density market withotu any extra costs/Taxes and Fees paid to the government and the others are forced to keep paying the extra bills.
that would be a uneven competition and is clearly Not acceptable on any point.
I am not basically against a online system like Uber,
sounds like a easy to use service for people to come around town, like the already since a couple years in use TUV SUS App.
but there have to be clearly the same requirements for all competitors on the same Market.
and that Transport Market is one of the hottest grounds you could touch for changes here in the country,
as ALL politicians LIVE grand scale of money out of that market,
Tax Free into their pockets.

Mike
 

bigbird

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Oh well, since Uber won't be coming how does the TUV SUD app work? I see it is also available for Android.
 

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Oh well, since Uber won't be coming how does the TUV SUD app work? I see it is also available for Android.

i don't know.
when in the capital i just grab the next cabby at the next corner, since 20 years, they always been fine.
as i do not live in the big city, as i hate it, i never had the need to call a cabby to my house to bring me somewhere or to call from a club to be brought to the next place there.
Uber can come,
but the competition has to be done on equal grounds for the different competitors on the transfer market.
if the law for public transfer/carrying tourists around states that drivers and vehicles need to register with authorities,
so it be and those "private" persons have to get the same papers/licenses/registries for themselves and their vehicles,
as everybody else of the competitors is required to do.
then a new competitor is very welcome.
competition is good for the customers,
as it keeps the prices reasonable and services levels up, like in every business.
hey,
i am not someone who loves the stu and costy requirements to be allowed to run a transfer/Taxi etc,
the opposite,
i am one of those who got back in the day stones thrown into their car windows, tires cut by knifes and Guns pointed into their faces, while fighting that old Monopol the Taxis had here on the east back in the day.
the outcome can be observed every day everywhere in the area,
many dozens of different transfer companies, all fine registered, running new vehicles,
and none is a member of the back in the day Monopol Union of the Taxistas.
maybe that Uber Thingy gives the whole theme a Kick
and some changes start to kick in.
would be nice to see some regulations go down/get more relaxed.
but the important point is:
it has to be the same requirements for everybody!

Mike
 

markryan

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you need a new translation software, lol.
basically,
Marte is right, i agree with him.
doesn't matter how other countries rule their public transportation,
here in this country every vehicle and every driver has to be registered, plain and simple.
why should the existing transfer/transportation companies liek the Taxistas, continue to pay their Taxes/Fees/renovations etc for their vehicle and driver registrations,
when every private person with a vehicle can work as a competitor without any registration/without those added costs of a Transfer Business?
i run also vehicles here for transportation of my customers,
without beeing member of any Union or such(this theme is basically NOT about Unions etc),
such vehicles cost quiet a load of money per year to be allowed to Transfer my own customers between Hotels and Marina.
if private persons are allowed to do such rides just because they "register" with a private online plattform named Uber,
then i ask WHY should i continue to pay fees and fees and taxes and fees to be allowed to transport the own customers in this country? it would be sufficient to use our own private Vans for those transfers, privately "registered" with a Mike's Marina online App on a smartphone.
to run transfer vehicles is in reality so expensive over the year(again, i am not talking about Union Mafia thingies for specific taxi routes or such), that since a couple years i moved very most of my own transfers to be done by bigger Transfer Companies, which exist in a large number here in the area.
as i use the own vehicles only for the own customers, do not occupy them with other transfers all day long/24-7, to hire a 3rd party Transfer Company is cheaper than to run a own fleet of registered vehicles.
to allow private persons to act/work as transfer drivers/vehicles with Uber,
means the DR has to change their Laws about registrations of Taxis AND Tourist Transfer Vehicles/Companies.
you can't allow some to compete on such high density market withotu any extra costs/Taxes and Fees paid to the government and the others are forced to keep paying the extra bills.
that would be a uneven competition and is clearly Not acceptable on any point.
I am not basically against a online system like Uber,
sounds like a easy to use service for people to come around town, like the already since a couple years in use TUV SUS App.
but there have to be clearly the same requirements for all competitors on the same Market.
and that Transport Market is one of the hottest grounds you could touch for changes here in the country,
as ALL politicians LIVE grand scale of money out of that market,
Tax Free into their pockets.

Mike

Every city they are in has those fees and regulations. Every city has the cabbies up in arms. The whole business model is being cheaper because they don'y pay all the fee a regular taxi does. I do think however they have no idea what is in store for them in the DR. The wild west works a little different.
 

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Every city they are in has those fees and regulations. Every city has the cabbies up in arms. The whole business model is being cheaper because they don'y pay all the fee a regular taxi does. I do think however they have no idea what is in store for them in the DR. The wild west works a little different.

if they don't have the same fees etc etc, in DR or other countries,
then there is not any fair competition at work.
maybe other countries have their people under strong force to not speak up against a thing,
when it comes to Transport Things in the DR a huuuge Can of Worms opens up.

Mike
 

markryan

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if they don't have the same fees etc etc, in DR or other countries,
then there is not any fair competition at work.
maybe other countries have their people under strong force to not speak up against a thing,
when it comes to Transport Things in the DR a huuuge Can of Worms opens up.

Mike

It's not fair at all. How they get around it is saying they are not in the transport business. They claim to be a "tech company" a site that simply matches people up. The unions are up in arms but it is too little too late. They are to big now. I used them the first time last weekend. Way better than a taxi and cheaper.

They 100 percent are not playing fair. The way I see it is the taxi mafias all over the world had there time to make billions. I also think once Uber gets the dominance they will just jack the prices higher. Time will tell. Here in Canada you can not just start smashing car windows and kidnapping people that are your competition. DR different story. It will get interesting I am sure.
 

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In addition to dealing with the tremendous competitive pressures(Unions) how would Uber possibly get past the security issue?

In cities where Uber operates(I am a big Uber user in the U.S. btw) virtually anyone with a car that runs can be an uber driver.

Unless thier practice for screening drivers in the D.R will be different from the practice in the rest of the world the guy's on moto bikes will no longer need to ride up to people on the street to rob them as they can just drive up in a friends car and have thier victims hop right in...

First half dozen negative news headline would kill the service I imagine.
So, you register your 2006 or newer car, upload exterior and interior photos, your drivers license, paper of good conduct and then let your barrio rat friend use your car to rob passengers. I think it's easier to rob a victim you can choose on your motorcycle then trying to rob someone who might be having nothing more than a cellphone on him and you're traceable in minutes.
 

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Grab your popcorn and let's see what happens. Is tomorrow the official start of UBER in Santo Domingo?
 

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Grab your popcorn and let's see what happens. Is tomorrow the official start of UBER in Santo Domingo?

they are already driving Uber in Santo Domingo.
they do it dominican style,
means they start first and maybe ask about a official permit for it later on,lol.
nothing wrong on that,
as it is the usual/typical way in DR, to start things that way.
would be interesting to know how many drivers/kinda cars etc already signed up and drive for Uber.
someone found such Data/Stats?
i would bet that at least one DR1 member already used a Uber ride in StDgo,
what's up buddy, don't wanna share your experience?

Mike
 

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I think someone already posted in this thread that they used UBER, but was not positive if it was in Santo Domingo.
 

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I think someone already posted in this thread that they used UBER, but was not positive if it was in Santo Domingo.

I have the Uber app installed. The app can pinpoint my location but at this point there is no way to summon a vehicle. My guess Uber is not up and running in SD.
 

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I'm not sure how it will work in NY, but all UBER drivers need a taxi license and insurance. Additionally, the driver can easily be tracked down for any illegal activity. Again, this is in NY, not speaking for DR.