What's Your Definition Of "I MADE IT", After Moving To The DR?

trina

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Why do you guys care who lives their life and how? Start worrying about what you do in your own life and live your own to the best of your ability. If you're happy with your own life, you probably wouldn't worry about where others find their happiness. Maybe that's what "making it" in life is all about. Sorry if my nerves were "touched", but we all know this is completely personal, and not nice at all. The person you're referring to doesn't deserve the hurtful lies being thrown at her.

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Sunnie, I think you need to ponder who you allow to be in your life. There is obviously someone who is your "friend" that is not your friend at all. Their motive for being your friend needs to be questioned, as apparently, they take pleasure in spreading gossip and hurting others. Someone who says one thing to your face, and terrible things behind your back. I am glad that you are a very strong person and are able to stand up for yourself, however, the trash needs to be taken out.
 
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In one word, being happy here.

In greater detail...
To have gone through the 3 phases...
1) They're all so wonderful, I love them.
2) I hate them all, they stole my shoes, nothing gets done on time, etc.
3) I understand them now and accept that things are the way they are.

To have or earn enough money to live well enough to be happy, and not have turned into a lying cheating con artist, that many gringos become.

To have acquired GREAT friends & earned respect in your community.

If you wake up everyday, happy that you are here and counting your blessings for having escaped the lifestyle associated with living in an industrialized nation, then you have made it.

Those who constantly complain about everything that is wrong here, did not make it.
Those who had to become corrupt, if they weren't already, to be able to survive, did not make it.

As a side note... Those who are unhappy, please stop telling us about it, and get the heck out of here, we are tired of listening to your complaints.
Anyone who thinks that things used to be better and miss the good ole days, go back to where you came from.
Anyone who needs to put others down to feel good enough about themselves, do us all favour. Go play in the traffic.
 

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trina said:
Why do you guys care who lives their life and how? Start worrying about what you do in your own life and live your own to the best of your ability. If you're happy with your own life, you probably wouldn't worry about where others find their happiness. Maybe that's what "making it" in life is all about. Sorry if my nerves were "touched", but we all know this is completely personal, and not nice at all. The person you're referring to doesn't deserve the hurtful words being thrown at her.
Trina you are absolutely right. Now that I have re-read my post, I wish if I can go back and edit it. What the hell happened to edit button? Anyway, to the poster whom I was pointing in my post, I appologize to you. No more hurtfull comments from me. Moderator, please erase my previous post.
The truth is, its not easy for everyone to make it in DR. Money is not easy to make for many if you compare the income you made back home. I am gratefull to god that I am not suffering here but I can't speak for everyone. I wish good luck to people who are starting a new life in this beautiful island.
AZB
 

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miguel said:
Now, instead of being so curious and making a simple conversation being about gossip, why don't you tell us of your fortune while relocating to the DR. You know, like were you live, where you work, who are your friends, etc. I would like to hear from people like you that have relocated to the DR.

Fine.

I came here last June because it was time for a life change. Or should I say I had a nervous breakdown and woke up considering suicide every day. No matter how much I tried to make things better, they got worse. So, instead of living in my own personal hell, I moved here.

Why not? At the time, I didn't have anything to lose.

Of course things were a bit difficult in the beginning because I was in a new culture that I had never really been exposed to. Like almost all new expats, I made a couple of mistakes but they were platforms from which to learn.

When I first arrived here, up until a little over a month ago, I was supporting my niece in the US. Long story, many people know it by now, but my delinquent sister decided to take her back after I had raised her since birth. I had paid for a trip for my mom and dad to bring my little girl, sorry niece, down here for good in the beginning of January. I found out the day after Christmas that there would be no trip because my sister had a change of heart and wanted to actually try and be a mother to the child she gave birth to.


Anyways, in the beginning, I lived very frugally here. It would have been pretty damn selfish of me to splurge down here on things I did not need when there was a 2 year old girl in the USA that was a hell of a lot more important to me than my own wants and needs. Maybe some call it low class but to me, it was a loving and necessary sacrifice.

It is expensive to provide solely for a child in the US - private daycare was 1200 a month, clothing another 2-300, toys 150-200, Dora the Explorer, The Wiggles and Max and Ruby DVD's - another 100 a month. And let's not even mention food.

Now, I'm only supporting myself so yes, I can splurge. Bit it hasn't made me any happier than I was before.

When I arrived, I lived in a hotel room in Hotel Castilla, above where I used to work, then I lived in a nice house with 2 roommates which just didn't work out, afterwards an apartment that also didn't work out as the landlady was a thief, back to the hotel and then finally to my beautiful new apartment where I hope to stay for good.

It always take awhile to get settled into a new place and now I am settled. Things are going astonishingly well. I'm happy and I'm starting to recognize the person I used to be.

I love my job - I do billing for a telecommunications company based in Canada and I also supervise the other workers in my office. I make very good money for the DR. In the US, it would not be considered so good but the cost of living is cheaper here, on most things.

If I could, I wouldn't change a thing. I miss my niece so, so much and will always have a void inside of me that nothing can fill but that is out of my hands.

All in all, I'm happier than I've ever been in my entire life. Life is simpler here and I don't have a lot of stress in my life. Things are good.

So that's my story Miguel, nothing more, nothing less.
 
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miguel

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As a gringo would say: Mucho bueno!

Rocky said:
In one word, being happy here.

In greater detail...
To have gone through the 3 phases...
1) They're all so wonderful, I love them.
2) I hate them all, they stole my shoes, nothing gets done on time, etc.
3) I understand them now and accept that things are the way they are.

To have or earn enough money to live well enough to be happy, and not have turned into a lying cheating con artist, that many gringos become.

To have acquired GREAT friends & earned respect in your community.

If you wake up everyday, happy that you are here and counting your blessings for having escaped the lifestyle associated with living in an industrialized nation, then you have made it.

Those who constantly complain about everything that is wrong here, did not make it.
Those who had to become corrupt, if they weren't already, to be able to survive, did not make it.

As a side note... Those who are unhappy, please stop telling us about it, and get the heck out of here, we are tired of listening to your complaints.
Anyone who thinks that things used to be better and miss the good ole days, go back to where you came from.
Anyone who needs to put others down to feel good enough about themselves, do us all favour. Go play in the traffic.
Thanks Rocky, you and "The Boss" have very good and valid points/details and I agree with them all 100%.

Btw, on your last paragraph, you stole my lines. I used to say that all the time when I was a newbie here and I hope you don't get all the crap that I used to get when I said it.

Now, to you Sunshine79:

Not everything that is said on this site is about or against you. As I warned on the thread, if you post here, someone may challenge you.

Don't forget that just like 1,000's of members do not like me and use the PM function to talk about me(or anybody they don't like), there are many that don't like you either. Therefore, there are those that would waste their time reading a blog and there are those that do not bother, I am one of those that only bother once in a while and only bits and pieces and only from from ONE member. have I EVER read your blog?, of course, a line or two.

For those that read your blog, they may have an issue with someone that posts, on the forums, on and on about "her daughter". It was "my daughter this" and "my daughter that". Now, that same member reads your blog where you are claiming that she is in fact NOT your daughter but your sister's daughter which you never had legal custody. See, how can someone think that you are fabricating things. Remember how some of us went backwards giving you advices about bringing your "daughter" here?. Remember when some of us were giving you hell for leaving your "daughter" behind?. I, for one, would not had wasted my time had you mentioned that it was your niece and that you never had custody of her.

For all I know, you may be the nicest person alive, I really do not care nor I want to find out any more, but there's a reason why MANY here, including me, will challenge you if they read one thing here and then another completely different thing in your blog.

Do you see now how SOME here would think that you give, sometimes, misleading information?.

Now, if you don't mind, let's get back to the topic and again, let's not make this about you and your way of life in the DR.

On a side note: Would some of you STOP with the darn PM's!!!!!. If you don't like what you are reading, if you HAVE to tell me about a member's POST being directed at someone, if you don't agree with me, there no need to send me your moronic PM's.

This thread have a question for those you live in the DR, you don't like what it's been said and have nothing to add on the subject, DON'T FRICKING post. As simple as that!. Just like I am quoted all the time, MANY will quote your "buddies" also!!.

Again, can we go back to the topic?.
 

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Rocky said:
In one word, being happy here.

In greater detail...
To have gone through the 3 phases...
1) They're all so wonderful, I love them.
2) I hate them all, they stole my shoes, nothing gets done on time, etc.
3) I understand them now and accept that things are the way they are.

To have or earn enough money to live well enough to be happy, and not have turned into a lying cheating con artist, that many gringos become.

To have acquired GREAT friends & earned respect in your community.

If you wake up everyday, happy that you are here and counting your blessings for having escaped the lifestyle associated with living in an industrialized nation, then you have made it.

Those who constantly complain about everything that is wrong here, did not make it.
Those who had to become corrupt, if they weren't already, to be able to survive, did not make it.

As a side note... Those who are unhappy, please stop telling us about it, and get the heck out of here, we are tired of listening to your complaints.
Anyone who thinks that things used to be better and miss the good ole days, go back to where you came from.
Anyone who needs to put others down to feel good enough about themselves, do us all favour. Go play in the traffic.


This was the best I have read for weeks here on DR1.
You?re spot on!
 

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miguel said:
Now, if you don't mind, let's get back to the topic and again, let's not make this about you and your way of life in the DR.

Hey, mujercita -

Um, the following sentence came straight from you directed to me:

I would like to hear from people like you that have relocated to the DR.

I gave you the information you asked for and all the details I shared are all integral parts of my relocation here. So what exactly is your problem now? You asked, I answered.

Off your meds again?



And for the record, I raised that little girl from the day she was born, I took her into my home when I didn't have to, because my sister was a drug user and a bad woman. So to me, she was always my daughter and in my heart, always will be. How dare you say that I'm "fabricating" anything? I can't believe that you put quotation marks around the word daughter, what kind of a human being are you? Until you've taken a child who is not your own into your home and loved them more than anything, you will not understand. You don't get it.


Since you like to spread gossip and speculate on things you don't know about, let's talk about all the people fron this site who have talked about your issues - insecurity, no self esteem, basket case, liar and so on. While I'm not interested in gossip and I don't go around spreading it, the things people here, including some of your buddies, say are not exactly a secret.

And more and more, I'm starting to believe them. I don't consider any person who has those characteristics I just mentioned having "made it" ANYWHERE so perhaps you should take this time to reflect upon yourself and your weaknesses instead of worrying about other people.

NOW can we please get back on topic?
 
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Well said, trina.

Sushine, baby, you do not have to explain yourself to miguel, or to anyone, for that matter.

Miguel is as predictable as a Barry Manilow crescendo, and he is trying to recapture his fleeting 15 nanoseconds of fame dating back to his long post regarding moves to the DR.

Now, AZB is too smart for this crap, and the reformed Lawrence (Larry) does not mean any harm; he's managed to become a sex symbol with the ex-pat crowd en la zona colonial

Who am I?...you ask. Well, when I'm not busy studying the mating habits of southern belle debutantes, I read these here boards and seek out miguel's typical nonsensical posts just to get a mercy laugh. So, in essence, I am an observer of all things crap. And I've concluded that lil' ol' miguelito suffers from a classic case of the ubiquitous yoismo, that not-so-rare trait kept under control by the rest of us, save the usual Sosua real estate magnate, formerly NYC real estate guru.

Just remember, sweet sunshine, that we live our lives in chains, and the key is a stress-free environment.

Yours,

JCorbyn
With a shout-out to JonS
 

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sunshine_79 said:
Hey, mujercita -

Um, the following sentence came straight from you directed to me:

I would like to hear from people like you that have relocated to the DR.

I gave you the information you asked for and all the details I shared are all integral parts of my relocation here. So what exactly is your problem now? You asked, I answered.

Off your meds again?



And for the record, I raised that little girl from the day she was born, I took her into my home when I didn't have to, because my sister was a drug user and a bad woman. So to me, she was always my daughter and in my heart, always will be. How dare you say that I'm "fabricating" anything? I can't believe that you put quotation marks around the word daughter, what kind of a human being are you? Until you've taken a child who is not your own into your home and loved them more than anything, you will not understand. You don't get it.


Since you like to spread gossip and speculate on things you don't know about, let's talk about all the people fron this site who have talked about your issues - insecurity, no self esteem, basket case, liar and so on. While I'm not interested in gossip and I don't go around spreading it, the things people here, including some of your buddies, say are not exactly a secret.

And more and more, I'm starting to believe them. I don't consider any person who has those characteristics I just mentioned having "made it" ANYWHERE so perhaps you should take this time to reflect upon yourself and your weaknesses instead of worrying about other people.

NOW can we please get back on topic?
A mujercita, that's nice. Aren't you the one that wears the "pants" in your relationship?.

There's NOONE on this site who knows me 100%. All they know about me is what I want them to know about me . Whatever else they think they know is just pure PM gossip. Do I care?, hell no. If anybody want to think that I am a liar, have low self-esteem and all the crap that you mentioned, I bet that the morons that say that are the ones that I have had confrontations with here. The ones that I challenge.

If someone, anyone, wants to tell me that you are dilussional and that you talk out of your butt, that's their problems. If you want to call it me being gossiping, so be it.

The only issue that I have with you is that you seem to live in La La Land and you want to portray yourself as a cartoon character living in paradise. There have to be more about you that some members, after meeting you, can not stand to be seen with you again.

I will not lose any sleep if you start to believe whatever you want to believe.

Btw, wasn't there another "nice" post about you here?. Why not defend yourself on that post also?.

Attack all you want, have all your PM friends feed you things that they think they know about me but be aware that I WILL not back down.

Trina: you are absolutely right, in general. There are many members here that would smile at your jokes and then stab you in the back. I have been saying this for years. That's the reason why, out of so many members, I only care to get to know just a handfull. I know that MOST do not want to get to know me because of me being outspoken, sure, but do I care to know MOST, absolutely not!. Trust, here, MOST talk about people's backs.

Sorry but now I have to go take the meds that I stole from your Sunny's cabinet, hahahaha.

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And to the crap seeker, SOTN, what can I say, I am glad that I keep you amuzed and that you look for my posts when you need a good laugh, nice to know that there is another person other than me who does not have a life. Any "bad publicity" is better than "no publicity" at all. Don't forget than when someone is crap, feels like crap and look for crap, that person will find crap, crappish?.
 
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be aware that I WILL not back down.

Oooohhh .... you're not going to back down, huh? Guess the gauntlet has been thrown.

Do you really let people's posts get to you that much that you have to try and assert your non-existent bad-assness?

Some people.

And nope, not wearing the pants. I would not settle for anything less that respect and being treated like a queen. That's hardly wearing the pants, darling. But thanks for assuming I'm such a strong woman. :)

And as for the other nice post, I don't need to respond to it because there have been private conversations that don't belong on this thread. Sometimes when people are wrong, they acknowledge it. Others don't.
 

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miguel said:
Trina: you are absolutely right, in general. There are many members here that would smile at your jokes and then stab you in the back. I have been saying this for years. That's the reason why, out of so many members, I only care to get to know just a handfull. I know that MOST do not want to get to know me because of me being outspoken, sure, but do I care to know MOST, absolutely not!. Trust, here, MOST talk about people's backs.

Well, trust me, I'm not one of them. If the person is my friend, you can't force me to say bad things about them. If I have something bad to say about someone and can't say it to their face, I realize I am not in the position to be a friend to them. I lose the bad influences in my life to make more time and room for the good who are my friends. As I said earlier, it sounds like some people need to remove the trash in their lives and then live happier, worrying about what they do in their own lives, not the lives of others.
 

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sunshine_79 said:
Oooohhh .... you're not going to back down, huh? Guess the gauntlet has been thrown.

Do you really let people's posts get to you that much that you have to try and assert your non-existent bad-assness?
Actually, only posts that sound moronic are the ones that "get" to me. It also "get" to me when you keep on misquoting me. You want to be a now-it-all and in fact you are not.

Now, I promised someone here that I will tone it down with you.You are a waste of my time. I already told you just about everything that I wanted to tell you.

A little piece of advice: you don't call a Dominican mujercita. Do I care if you called me that, no because I see it from where it's coming from. I tell you because if by any chance you call your boyfriend that, be aware that he may slap you silly, even if he is the greatest man and the less violent man in the universe, in your book.

Trina:

I know where you are coming from but I hardly consider people on a computer "my friends". That I like some of the people that I have met in person, yes. That I consider them my friend, with the exception of 1, absolutely not.
 
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miguel said:
You are a waste of my time. I already told you just about everything that I wanted to tell you.

If I am such a waste of your time, why do you expend the energy of attacking just about everything I say on this board? If someone is truly a waste of your time, you don't have things you "want" to tell them. That is just logical common sense. I remember when you used to call me, telling me that you wanted to "help" me. You don't do that to people who are wastes of your time.


miguel said:
A little piece of advice: you don't call a Dominican mujercita.

Why? You didn't even know what it meant at first. You thought it meant I was calling you a homosexual, which I was not. The term applies to men who spend their time gossiping like little old ladies.

And I would never dream of calling my better half - or any decent person for that matter - a mujercita because it doesn't apply to him. I would only use that term for people who I have no respect for. People who spread blatant bullsh*t about my life when they know absolutely nothing about it except for lies they heard from someone who doesn't even know me. People who imply that I fabricated a relationship with my niece who I took into my home and suggest the relationship didn't have any significance because she is not my biological child. People who are narrow, one-dimensional, short sighted and very, very shallow.

Now, back on topic.

What is there really left to say on the topic of making it? In my eyes, you can't make it anywhere if you're not happy. All of the material wealth in the world cannot make up for being hollow on the inside.

As long as I have three things in life - something to do, something to love and something to hope for, that's enough for me. But then again, someone else might have a completely different outlook.

There is no one correct definition for "making it".
 
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wow

nice soap opera, a contest of who is better, my daddy is better then yours. fricking unbelievable. Just like we were 8 again. Small town DR bull crap, and you guys are washing your dirty clothes all over the web? Its probably to much sun or something. This site is now showing its true color, bunch of people that no other countries wanted. Nice place to visit, but thats about it.
 

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bertgilbert said:
nice soap opera, a contest of who is better, my daddy is better then yours. fricking unbelievable. Just like we were 8 again. Small town DR bull crap, and you guys are washing your dirty clothes all over the web? Its probably to much sun or something. This site is now showing its true color, bunch of people that no other countries wanted. Nice place to visit, but thats about it.

Sorry Bert, but when people choose to write blatant lies about me, and my life, I am entitled to stand up for myself.

If you don't like DR1 then perhaps you should not visit it anymore.
 

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sunshine_79 said:
Sorry Bert, but when people choose to write blatant lies about me, and my life, I am entitled to stand up for myself.

If you don't like DR1 then perhaps you should not visit it anymore.

where do you read that I said "I don't like dR1" ?

I was not judging anyone in particular, I was just stating that you guys where doing your laundry in public. And yes you can defend yourself, but it was the point I was trying to make, if you have to defend yourself on a message board, do you think those people are your friends. It is easy enough to talk bad about someone on the phone, web, e-mail but, I bet none of those big talkers would have enough balls to do it to anyone's face.

That's it. Nice blog by the way, if you want to read mine, pm me and I will send you the link

Got to go for a nap now, so i can go to work tonight and pay for my trip leaving to Sosua on the 19th of February, but will gladly respond to anybody tonight while at work.
 
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What Rocky Said!

Except I reserve my right to "Steal" electricity,cable TV,and to "Complain!

I remember when I first visited here! If there had been a "DR1" I would of told everyone how wonderful all dominicans are.How they are so happy with so little,how they take care of eachother,and welcome you into their homes as "Family"!

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Hey, bertgilbert...

Not so fast, cowboy. But you DO sound like someone who is better. Or uninformed, at best. And it's not that complicated, either. See, miguel, in his usual attempt to bring attention to himself, asks a question; sweet sunshine gives her answer, but miguel does not like relinquishing the spotlight, thus turning it into a me-me-me-guel thread. How convinient! He's not even smart enough to know that it is a semi-loaded question. It's crap, if you will.

Now, some folks here are sincere, and proceed to answer it. However, mr. dramaqueen me-guel is in over-drive by now, and resorts to ad-hominen attacks towards sweet sexy sunshine. She defends herself, and rightfully so.

It is that simple.

hey, me-guel, what would you rather be: a Black & Decker or a Snap-on?
 

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you mean?

something_of_the_night said:
Not so fast, cowboy. But you DO sound like someone who is better. Or uninformed, at best. And it's not that complicated, either. See, miguel, in his usual attempt to bring attention to himself, asks a question; sweet sunshine gives her answer, but miguel does not like relinquishing the spotlight, thus turning it into a me-me-me-guel thread. How convinient! He's not even smart enough to know that it is a semi-loaded question. It's crap, if you will.

Now, some folks here are sincere, and proceed to answer it. However, mr. dramaqueen me-guel is in over-drive by now, and resorts to ad-hominen attacks towards sweet sexy sunshine. She defends herself, and rightfully so.

It is that simple.

hey, me-guel, what would you rather be: a Black & Decker or a Snap-on?

you mean better or bitter?, you just happen to sign up and you are an expert on people now? but if you mean better, in what sense? i am better at golf then the wife, is that what you mean.
 

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bertgilbert...

Better means better. And your post reflected your "betterness."

And I AM some kind of expert, or some kind of genius, some say. I thought that was evident. But this is not about you or I, but about me-guel.