Will you accept the vaccine made available in the D.R.

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zoomzx11

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***I saw on internet that said DR doctor immediately was transformed into a crocodile.

has been killing tens of thousands of people every year in the
USA long before China released this virus into the world.
Did they always count the people who died "with" not "from"
influenza as an influenza death or are they only doing this with Covid?
Conspiracy theory nonsense

Influenza, common flu , is fatal in some people who do not get a flu shot.

No evidence China released anything.
No evidence and has been branded conspiracy nonsense that any doctors anywhere ever falsified causes of deaths for any reason and certainly not to inflate Covid deaths numbers.
You are unfamiliar with the information required for a doctor to put their name on a death certificate.
I can assure you that doctors take death certificates very seriously and will not attest to anything untrue.
Anyone can repeat nonsense.
Any links that support your bizarre views?
 

zoomzx11

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Those who want to get vaccinated will.
Those who don't won't.

Whether or not any form of travel restrictions
will be imposed for those who don't is still up for debate.

Please keep in mind, in a country like the DR for
a few hundred pesos getting a formal declaration
from the local doctor saying "yes, I have been vaccinated"
should not be a problem for those who just want
the declaration without getting poked.

Cash is and always will be king down here and
I've no doubt many people will be taking advantage
of this FACT...
too bad so sad but there is nothing any of those constant
fear mongering freaks can do about it either.

In the end you won't have any way to confirm which of us
have received the vaccination and which of us have not, will you?
Highly doubt it will be that easy for someone dumb enough to want to avoid vaccination.

Easy way to tell they did not get the shot is when they are patients in hospital suffering from Coronavirus infection.
The fear mongering freaks you refer to exist only in your imagination.
You confuse common sense caution with fear.
You appear to be the person who is afraid.
 

zoomzx11

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Vaccines about to be shipped...

President Luis Abinader announced on January 4 that he wants to start vaccinating medical staff and vulnerable groups as soon as possible. He reported that the first batch of 200,000 vaccines from Pfizer will arrive in the country shortly.​

Ah, so it is not even here and what is "shortly"?
 

CristoRey

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Conspiracy theory nonsense

Influenza, common flu , is fatal in some people who do not get a flu shot.

No evidence China released anything.
No evidence and has been branded conspiracy nonsense that any doctors anywhere ever falsified causes of deaths for any reason and certainly not to inflate Covid deaths numbers.
You are unfamiliar with the information required for a doctor to put their name on a death certificate.
I can assure you that doctors take death certificates very seriously and will not attest to anything untrue.
Anyone can repeat nonsense.
Any links that support your bizarre views?
CCP was well aware of how deadly this virus was from day one.
They hoarded medical supplies while allowing the Chinese New
Year celebrations to continue unabated in Wuhan while at the same
time closing access from this region to people wanting to travel into Beijing.

Call it conspiracy nonsense if it helps you to sleep better at night but failure
to prevent the virus from spreading immediately and preventing outside investigators
from arriving to help identify which area or lab the virus leaked from makes the CCP
complicit in the death of millions a people around the world along with the untimely
destruction of the global economy.

The evidence supporting these claims has long been removed from any and all tech giant search
platforms. I am very familiar with the information required for a death certificate when completed
by a doctor. Dying from a specific cause of death like diabetes, heart disease or kidney failure may
or may not be the result of a patient contracting Covid, especially if they were not in the best health
prior however if they were tested and it came back as a "postive" all of those deaths are counted as
covid, are they not?

My initial question was a legitimate one not some corny ass conspiracy theory.
People have a right to know whether or not they always counted the people who
died "with" not "from" influenza as an influenza death or are they only doing this with Covid?
 

CristoRey

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Highly doubt it will be that easy for someone dumb enough to want to avoid vaccination.

Easy way to tell they did not get the shot is when they are patients in hospital suffering from Coronavirus infection.
The fear mongering freaks you refer to exist only in your imagination.
You confuse common sense caution with fear.
You appear to be the person who is afraid.
You appear to make assumptions based on zero evidence.
Unfortunately your doubt is what will make it easy for those
of us who are only interested in buying the declaration.... possible.
So let me be the first to say thanks, we do appreciate it.
 

Michael DR

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Suggested reading regarding the origins of Covid-19 and the conspiracy theories stemming from that:





ALL from credible, documented, unimpeachable sources. Not particularly easy reads and lead to many other articles, for those inclined to really get into it.
 
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CristoRey

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Suggested reading regarding the origins of Covid-19 and the conspiracy theories stemming from that:





ALL from credible, documented, unimpeachable sources. Not particularly easy reads and lead to many other articles, for those inclined to really get into it.
Credible reference sources indeed.
I wonder how many of them are currently taking in money
from Chinese backed donors?
 

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Stay on track guys. Read the title of the thread.
 

zoomzx11

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Highly doubt it will be that easy for someone dumb enough to want to avoid vaccination.

Easy way to tell they did not get the shot is when they are patients in hospital suffering from Coronavirus infection.
The fear mongering freaks you refer to exist only in your imagination.
You confuse common sense caution with fear.
You appear to be the person who is afraid.
And.
There are changes on the wind on regarding "free speech" and public media.
People purposefully repeat dangerous ideas using public media contrary to public health, welfare and UNTRUE.
It has gotten more akin to yelling fire in a movie theater than in the past.

New study
has Pfizer vaccine "appears" to be effective against new strains of Covid.

Appears is past better than nothing regarding effectiveness and its good news for all the same type vaccines not only Pfizer



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And.
There are changes on the wind on regarding "free speech" and public media.
People purposefully repeat dangerous ideas using public media contrary to public health, welfare and UNTRUE.
It has gotten more akin to yelling fire in a movie theater than in the past.

New study
has Pfizer vaccine "appears" to be effective against new strains of Covid.

Appears is past better than nothing regarding effectiveness and its good news for all the same type vaccines not only Pfizer



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Sounds good.
I'll get my vaccination declaration
and continue living my life as I see fit,
not as others dictate.

You get your vaccination, I hope it doesn't
cause you any adverse reactions or
something much more severe like kidney
failure as I would hate to see you the
topic of a DR1 thread someday in the future.
 

zoomzx11

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And.
There are changes on the wind on regarding "free speech" and public media.
People purposefully repeat dangerous ideas using public media contrary to public health, welfare and UNTRUE.
It has gotten more akin to yelling fire in a movie theater than in the past.

New study
has Pfizer vaccine "appears" to be effective against new strains of Covid.

Appears is past better than nothing regarding effectiveness and its good news for all the same type vaccines not only Pfizer



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Moderna and Pfizer use the mRNA format so good applies to both those guys.
Cool the way they work.
Use mRNA to trigger your immune system to produce anti bodies.
No parts of the virus are used.
It is a chemical switch to turn on your immune system.
New technology and this is its first use and effectiveness is off the chain, so far so good.
I am like a medical history pioneer. Ha.
 
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zoomzx11

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Sounds good.
I'll get my vaccination declaration
and continue living my life as I see fit,
not as others dictate.

You get your vaccination, I hope it doesn't
cause you any adverse reactions or
something much more severe like kidney
failure as I would hate to see you the
topic of a DR1 thread someday in the future.
What do those doctors who have spent their lives studying epidemilogy and vaccine development know anywhhaay?


Your strange list of well wishes, hopes and hates, almost causes me concern but then I remember,
I got mine.

Kidneys are first rate at this time but no kidney disease in my family history.
Today is number six post vaccine and I have no changes, no pains, aches, anything usual.
Temp is 98. 0
Chilly outside.

So far the Pfizer looks fine to me.
Maybe that colder temp makes for a better vaccine, who knows.
 
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zoomzx11

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Is my p
Is my post off topic in your opinion?

I thought it relevant especially since so many insist on posting obvious untruths, and this might encourage some not to avoid getting vaccinated.

I see no reason not to get vaccinated not that any of our opinions really matter in the DR ;)

Thanks
This whole topic is important enough that you could loosen up the fences a tad.
And still stop the few who wander all over.
You are pretty good at managing this joint, just loosen it up.
Lot of Covid news is going on elsewhere and we help spread a little science., Maybe enough for them to read something.
Well , some learn anyway.
 
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I'm still trying to understand how anyone could be called a Conspiracy theorist , just because that person dares to question the effectiveness of a Vaccine which is BRAND NEW ...
If this makes sense in your brain .. you seriously lack critical thinking skills .

These vaccines are made by Pharm CORPORATIONS , to make a PROFIT for their Shareholders
. and on a Rush Basis no less ...
what part of this is unclear to some of you.
 
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CristoRey

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"We're not actually shortcutting anything except for the bureaucratic or administrative time."
Catherine Bennett, chair in epidemiology, Deakin University


Yes. Deakin University. I am very familiar with them
 
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CristoRey

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Conspiracy theory nonsense

Influenza, common flu , is fatal in some people who do not get a flu shot.

No evidence China released anything.
No evidence and has been branded conspiracy nonsense that any doctors anywhere ever falsified causes of deaths for any reason and certainly not to inflate Covid deaths numbers.
You are unfamiliar with the information required for a doctor to put their name on a death certificate.
I can assure you that doctors take death certificates very seriously and will not attest to anything untrue.
Anyone can repeat nonsense.
Any links that support your bizarre views?
I found one of the links to support my bizarre views.
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