Your favorite merengue grupos past & present

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rubio

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Message Board Survey:

For all Merengue aficionados...


What's your favorite "oldie" merengue album/grupo?

And what's your favorite "new" merengue album/grupo?


There's a new merengue grupo called Karu...I've heard them play twice, once on TV another time at a festival.

If you're more into bachata...then post your favorites.

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Didn't we do something like this a few months ago?

Oh well, maybe it's time for an update. On the oldies front, I like Milly y los Vecinos, Los Toros Band, Sergio Vargas & Fernandito. I'm sure Golo will flame me for mentioning these guys, but it really is classic, quite dance-able merengue. Forget about guys like Wilfredo Vargas, La Banda Gorda or To?o Rosario!
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don't disregard the thread.

Every topic has been discussed a million times before. give it a new angle and many would resspond, I am sure Golo would say that there are no good merengue groups that they all suck, then again he may surprise us, hee hee.

I liked Fernandito Villalona "cuando estaba en sus buena". El Torito....

Carry on



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I like.....

Los Hermanos Rosario, Juan Luis Guerra, Fernandito, Sergio Vargas (from back in the day, no so much now). Can't say I like any of the new merengue bands.
 

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I bet Golo will like this one...

La Santa Cecilia, Papa Molina, Jorge Solano y su orquesta, Francis Santana ..... ok, ok, so that's way before my time. My memory only goes as far back as Los Beduinos (chopo), Aramis Camilo (even more chopo), El Zafiro (oh my God, I can't stop!!).

I admit it, I'm a Juan Luis Guerra y 440 fan (the whole thing, not the deconstructed version), but I'm willing to accept I also enjoy Sergio, Milly, Los Hermanos Rosario, Wilfrido Vargas and Los Toros Band (sometimes). As for the new groups......forgedaboudit!!!
 

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Now some Bachata

I like so many since I have been listening to Bachata for over a year now. Frank Reyes, El Gringo de la Bachata, Monchy y Alexandra, Luis Vargas, and Aventura are some of my favorites.
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Golo100

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This is an old thread!!

But I refuse to accept that I do not like any merengue band. I have said time and time again that the best merencgue band in the world is Grupo Mania. Thay have proven it with their record sales, international awards, stage charisma and originality. When Grupo Mania had Elvis Crespo as his leader it was the most refreshing band at that time. When he left to go solo, everyone thought Mania was dead. Well, the talent Elvis left behind was even better. Now Elvis is the king of merengue internationally and Mania is the merengue empire.

I also like Parada Joven, Melao Criollo, Zafra Negra and most of the young Puerto Rican/Dominican bands stationed in PR.

What I cannot accept is the continuity of the old monopoly in DR by the same tired old names like Milly, Sergio,Los Toros Band, Rubby Perez, Juan Luis G, Los Rosario and clown To?o. Hardly anyones listens or buys theior music anymore, but they somehow survive playing for private parties and in-house concerts.

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The Billboard Latin Awards

Just like I predicted before, none of the boring merengue acts got in the act at last weeks' Billboard Latin Awards. The Tropical music prizes went to Gilberto Santa Rosa. Only old witch Milly got a nomination, but didnt even come close.

The only merengue acts that were prominent at the show were Grupo Mania and Elvis Crespo.

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Given that I'm an old fart:

Joseito Mateo, Fernando Villalona, Ruby Perez, Rafael Solano, Eladio Romero Santos, Wilfrido Vargas, Sergio Vargas, Luis Ovalles, Aramis Camilo, El Ciego de Nagua, Felix del Rosario, Cheche Abreu and, last but not least, Alberto Beltran. Beltran lived near my grandmother in San Carlos, but was better known in Cuba playing with the Sonoro Matancera. There he recorded one of the best known merengues of all time, "El Negrito Del Batey". "El Negrito" and "Compadre Pedro Juan" are sort of merengue anthems.
 

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FOR GOLO 100 Re: The Billboard Latin Awards

Golo100 said:
Just like I predicted before, none of the boring merengue acts got in the act at last weeks' Billboard Latin Awards. The Tropical music prizes went to Gilberto Santa Rosa. Only old witch Milly got a nomination, but didnt even come close.

The only merengue acts that were prominent at the show were Grupo Mania and Elvis Crespo.

TW

If you're referring to last week's (May 8th) Premios Billboard de la M?sica Latina, I'd like to clarify some things for you, and let you in on some insider info:

There were no Dominican merengue acts, "boring" or otherwise, as performers, because both the Executive Producer of the awards show, and the Senior Executive VP of Programming at the network that televised it, are PUERTO RICAN. THEY chose the artists THEY wanted participating at the Billboards, and THEY negotiated with their managers and record labels. THEIR aim is to promote PUERTO RICAN artists, not Dominicans. THEY have no national nor business needs or interests to do so, nor anything to gain from promoting Dominican acts.

Merengue is the national music and dance of the Dominican Republic, and we have PLENTY of talented musicians. Lack of talent, however, or ("new") appeal, has nothing to do with Dominican merengue or bachata bands "getting in the act", or not. They were simply not invited by the powers that be, because it wasn't a practical thing for them to do. It's all business; not fairness, nor courtesy.

The Tropical Music award went to Gilberto Santa Rosa because, 1. According to Billboard Magazine, he was a top seller last year, 2. He's talented, 3. He agreed to be a performer at the event, 4. He's Puerto Rican. 5. His manager is Puerto Rican.

Yes, Dominican-born Milly got a nomination, a very well-deserved one, but guess what? 1. Her manager agreed to have Milly be a presenter, and 2. Her manager, who is Puerto Rican herself, also happens to be Gilberto Santa Rosa's wife.

How, in your opinion, Grupo Mania and Elvis Crespo got to be "the only prominent merengue acts" at that show is a mystery to me, since neither of them performed, but merely presented. (Grupo Mania cancelled their performance a few days before the event.)

Fulanito was also there, and even Andy Andy, who was nominated for an award, like Monchy y Alexandra. Did any one of them win a Billboard Award? No, and none of these Dominican groups were asked to be performers or presenters, either. (Only two other Dominicans, besides Milly, were asked to be presenters, and they were not part of merengue or bachata bands.)

And lastly, Milly Quezada is not old, or a witch. And in another thread a few days ago, you said she had paid "a fortune" for the dress she wore to the Billboards. That's not true. She could have, if she wanted to, but she didn't pay "a fortune" for it. You also mentioned she had a 'rubber tire' for a waist. That's also not true. She is pretty, petite, friendly and very talented. She is also fit, and in good shape.

I'll tell you, golo, lover-of-all-things-Puerto-Rican (but it's not their fault), who ISN'T pretty (not after all that surgery), petite, friendly, talented, fit or in good shape (or in ANY shape, for that matter, to be calling herself "La Mujer de Fuego", now that she was forced to give Milly back her original title of "La Reina del Merengue"), the woman who has taken to sewing her own cheap dresses and costumes now: Olga Moj?n. Ooops, I mean Ta??n. No, I mean Moj?n. Olga Moj?n.


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Indie

There are few true all Dominican or Puerto Rican bands. Nowadays music bands are made up of many nationalities. The fact that my taste for merengue happens to coincide with Grupo Mania and Elvis Crespo, who was part of it, does not make me a Puerto Rican lover.

Grupo Mania has Dominican influence all over. There were and still are Dominican members in that band. Their production is influenced by Dominican song writers and arrangers and they even admit a big influence from To?o Rosario, except I think they are better than To?o.

Would you call "Ilegales" a Dominican band. Of course you would, just like everyone else. Well, they are mostly based in Miami, and other key members are foreigners. Chichi Peralta(another big bore) has as his lead singer I believe a hick from Central America.

I just like bands for what they are and how they perform. I told you I like Oro Solido, a Dominican band made of of guys from New York, some of which were even born in the U.S. and are not true Dominicans, as is the case with some of my favorite "Dominican players Alex Rodriguez, Manny Ramirez, Albert Pujols.

Milly just had her face rearranged to cover her old age and uses super tight corsets to cover all that fat. She is just a screamer who enjoyed having no competition, because Dominican women hate to be merengue singers(it is low class job), but someone had to do it and she did. So did ugly, ultra manicured and surgery constructed daughter of Wilfrido, who used to sing with a low class casino band and now her father is pushing to make her the queen. She spends a fortune in hair pieces because her hair is so kinky it cannot be straightened.

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golo said:
I just like bands for what they are and how they perform.
I don't think I have to tell you this, but you are entitled to like whatever band, and whatever type of music you prefer. Likewise, everyone else is entitled to the same. Just be sure to be better
informed about things or people you disagree with before you start posting misleading information here, because a lot of DR1 readers take the things you post here as a given, as in, "If golo said it, it must be true." There's usually more to it than meets the eye.

golo said:
Milly just had her face rearranged to cover her old age and uses super tight corsets to cover all that fat. She is just a screamer who enjoyed having no competition, because Dominican women hate to be merengue singers(it is low class job), but someone had to do it and she did. TW

Again, golo. Milly is not old, and she has not had any plastic surgery done on her face. She is also not fat at all. I already told you who's the one who had all the plastic surgery done, and who's the one who looks like a freaking heifer. But let's stick to the real issues:

Milly Quezada is not a 'screamer'; she is a very talented merengue singer. And, as a woman, she did have some REAL competition in the 80's with Belkis Concepci?n y Las Chicas del Can, Mar?a D?az, Fefita La Grande and even Las Chicas de Nueva York--a short-lived, forgettable, all-female merengue band whose manager, Ralphy Pou, copied Las Chicas del Can shamelessly. Their one-"hit" wonder, and claim to fame, comes from a double-entendre, raunchy merengue very distinctively titled, "No Puedo Cocinar, Porque Me Pica La Cebolla".

Milly Quezada is better, and above all that crap. She's also had the talent, vision, tenacity, and the fans that have allowed her to endure and remain as THE true, original and authentic "Reina del Merengue". You're right--someone had to do it, and she did. And no one, no one, whether they like her music or not, can take that away from her.

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Indie, what do you consider old in music?

As far as old age in music artists, if Milly is not old, then it would take reviving dead mommies to qualify for old age in music artists.

Milly Quezada is one of the oldest female singers in DR. In case people here don't know(don't be fooled by cosmetic surgery and photoshop) this lady was singing merengue already in the 60's. She was born in 1952. She is 51. In music circles, specially in merengue, she is a relic, just like Celia Cruz, who is being kept standing with miraculous drugs and incredible music arrangements to try to fake us into believeing she is still singing.

Her weight exceeds 170 lbs. on a small, short frame. In terms of presence, she looks like a Dominican maid in her uniform when she stands next to other international stars during presentations. She dresses like a hick and is the noisiest crooner(just like Ruby Perez)

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I like the ladies myself

Giselle, Melina Le?n, Olga Ta?on.

But I have to add an emphatic "Yes" to Golo's recommendation of Grupo Man?a.

When I started sampling/collecting merengue after my last trip, this is the only group that impressed me to buy own more than 1 cd, more than just a 'sampler' of their work. I'm a real fan.
Viva Man?a!

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The Dollard Plunges

US dollar plunges, tips deflation fears Europe's way
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WASHINGTON (AFP) - Nerves gripped investors worldwide after US Treasury Secretary John Snow appeared tacitly to abandon an eight-year policy of supporting a strong dollar.

The perceived shift raised fears that further dollar declines would erode the value of foreigners' US investments, economists said.

And while soothing concerns of deflation in the United States, it also ramped up those same fears in Europe, and complicated the long deflation battle in Japan, they said.

"What the United States has made clear is that they are not going to undertake any efforts to try to defend the currency," said Citigroup global currency strategist Robert Sinche.

"We think that is exactly appropriate in this environment," he said.

"In a world where the major concerns appear to be about deflation rather than inflation, the last thing the world economy needs is to have the United States trying to artificially tighten policy."

US Treasury Secretary John Snow described recent currency fluctuations as being "really fairly modest" during a weekend Group of Seven finance ministers in Deauville, France.

A "strong dollar" policy did not mean that the currency should be at any particular exchange rate, he said, emphasising that it incorporated other values such as confidence, or being a good medium of exchange.

The euro rose to 1.1720 dollars in late morning deals in Europe, against 1.1581 on Friday in New York.

In Japan, already battling deflation for four years, the authorities in Tokyo intervened heavily to prevent a yen appreciation. The dollar tumbled to 115.13 yen from 115.90 on Friday.

"I think for the longest period of time in effect the dollar exchange rate has been market-determined," said Moody's Investors Service chief US economist John Lonski.

Chronic deficits in US financial dealings with the outside world -- shown by a current account shortfall of more than half a billion dollars last year -- might have caught up with the currency, Lonski said.

"We are simply not able to attract as much foreign capital as we need to prevent the dollar exchange rate from moving lower. I wonder how much of this is really the product of any change in policy," he said.

Major investors in dollar-denominated assets also might have decided to diversify because of heightened geopolitical concerns, Lonski said.

In addition, the US Federal Reserve (news - web sites) had cut the key federal funds target rate to a four-decade low of 1.25 percent. Lower rates reduce the returns on US investments, eroding demand for dollars.

For now, the slide in the dollar worked in favor of the US economy, where underlying inflation fell to a 37-year low of 1.5 percent in April when compared with April 2002.

"One of the perfect antidotes for deflation is a weaker currency," Lonski said.

But "in Europe, it has the opposite effect," he added.

The appreciation of the euro, and the higher risk of deflation, might force the European Central Bank to cut rates sooner, the analyst said.

"The attack against deflation becomes globalized if the ECB decides that it has no choice but to cut rates pretty soon." The ECB holds its next meeting June 5.

In Japan, the Bank of Japan had waged a long battle in vain against deflation. "The last thing they need is a further appreciation of their currency," Lonski said.

Snow would still step in to support the dollar if the decline ran out of control, leading to a flight of funds from both the equity market and the bond market, he predicted.

"Snow made it perfectly clear, the strong dollar policy has been abandoned up until we reach that point where expecations of further dollar weakness prove to be disruptive to US financial markets," Lonski said.

Wall Street tumbled Monday. The Dow Jones industrials average of 30 top stocks plunged 171.33 points or 1.97 percent to 8,507.64 by early afternoon. But the bond market held up relatively well, Lonski said.

"If both equity and credit markets deteriorate together, chances are the dollar depreication will no longer be tolerated by the US government," the economist said.

The good times are about to roll off here in the US, things are already at an all time high and with a weaker dollards thing are bound to get tougher.


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