I know that aviation is dangerous, often requires risking life and sometimes people agrees on their free will to put themselves at risk. When you talking about airline passengers however, those are usually not people who look for sacrifice but who simply want to get to their destination in one piece, unharmed.
I also repetitiously agreed with fact that accidents in aviation do happens. Despise repeating it numerous times you still repeating same argument and I don?t know to make it any clearer any more.
In case of IL-62 engine problems, I feel we are not talking about, by any means, about any risk which is normally associated with commercial travel, normal use, bad luck or anything of that sort.
When engine defects occurs repeatedly, repeatedly cost human life, yet they occurs over and over, manufacturer denies its fault, government falsifies crash statistics while at the same time both publicly boost about their own superiority, finally over 20 years passes and defects are never fixed. For me this is not just an accident, but really absolutely ethically unacceptable behavior of treating passengers without any regard to their lives.
I mean I can understand that even when all fact would be known, its quite possible many people would and will, willfully agree to take risks for number of reasons. Some might feel sentiment to the plane, some may have economic reasons, while some might be forced to fly them simply because they have no other choice. Whatever anybody?s willful decision or opinion I can respect them all.
At the same time I utterly disagree, that lying about own faults or creating campaign of deception is justifiable by any means.
What about those people who have choices and who don?t want to risk their lives? I feel people have right to make such decision on their own, not have them made for them. If they agree to take risks, like plane, feel sentiment to it, I have absolutely no problem with it.
Arguments that information is not begin published to ?not upset people?, sounds to me as nothing short of typical, communist style, government BS, who tries to hides inconvenient to it truths, scare that aware of all facts people might finally get tired and angry enough, to kick them in their honorable butts hard enough, that they fall from their warm government chairs. Its error however to confuse someone?s rationalization of lies with truth.
I have to objectively agree, that I do not KNOW, that Russia still hides statistics of its own crashes. Anybody who doesn?t have proofs which are clear and raise no doubts whatsoever, in way direction or another simply can?t say it ?knows?. At the same time I have to say I strongly believe that?s exactly what takes place.
What I mentioned before already, there was number of incidents which happened in Poland. After second disaster Polish technical services developed technological means of early detecting engine problems, which resulted in finding bad engines on 6 planes out of 7 they had. Manufacturer claimed engine had no faults and all damage to it happened in result of crash, despise fact that engine turbine pieces were found over 200 miles away from disaster site, in place where plane failure in the air happened. All this happened already in times of ?Glasnost? and ?Pestroika? ? which doesn?t mean I feel that was anything wrong with it (quite contrary I feel enormous respect to president Gorbachev), but simply means that ?Perestroika? itself doesn?t mean automatically that everything was cleared. It?s actually quite understandable, that in country size of Russia changes will take lots, lots of time. Even you not question that Russia was not making public its crash statistics for long time. All this leads me to believe that statistic simply doesn?t look realistic. What statistic shows simply doesn?t match at all, what were the Polish experiences with IL-62M.
Even I said before I do not KNOW statistic manipulation takes place, I cannot understand how can you claim you KNOW they are not? Are you KGB head? How on earth in country in which passing from republic to republic required permit, where all media information were ?sanitized? and government controlled and where it was possible to successfully persuade large masses of people that communism was in fact the best system existing, anyone can say anything like this?
By calling me conspiratist you really question validity and truthfulness of what I trying to say.
What exactly you - trying to say? Quoted by me sources are false? Polish commission was wrong or falsified their result? I falsified translation? What?s your point? I trying to argument for last few posts, that we are not talking about just aviation mishaps, yet it seems for some reasons you negating my argumentation and keep repeating yours.
In my opinion defending ?what yours?, I mean what refers to your (presumably Russian) nationality or pride, by means of negating everything which speaks not favorably about it, is not patriotic behavior or attitude ? quite contrary.
By the way, while talking on different forum. I came to awareness of official ICAO pdf. document from March 20 2006. Before you start jumping up and down reading documents final conclusion which states that ?Soviet manufactured plane safety is not worse than any western manufactured plane?, I would like you to concentrate on point 1.1 in introduction which says:
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?1.1 The limited information on the accident rate, presented by the USSR Aviation Administrations to the international organizations, did not make it possible to draw any objective conclusions about the flight safety level of Soviet-manufactured civil aircraft and aeronautical equipment, which at present are mainly operated in the member States of the Agreement. ?
http://www.icao.int/icao/en/dgca/ip/dgca_06_ip_48_e.pdf
In case you wouldn't like to open pdf from link above, you can search document from official ICAO site by entering "DGCA/06-IP/48" into its search box:
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Conclusions have been made admitting they cannot be objective due to fact of limited information about accident provided by USSR Aviation Administration.
Would this suggest that information about crashes is still not full - even today?