Well not if you listen too the far left. Anyway the Haitians and Somalis won't be sent back. Canada needs to make them feel welcome or unelect Trudeau.
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End of Temporary Protected Status could send 50,000 back to Haiti
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Yes, I agree and he will put the country in (more) debt by the time he leaves office. Remember his father was the same way. The years of Pierre Trudeau were not good for Canada despite his philanthropic efforts.
Haitians make a big contribution to Montreal's bottom line although most people will not want to recognize that and many are hard working. They own a lot of businesses in Montreal East and have for years. They are not all French-speaking but it is easier for them to gravitate towards French first rather than English. However, the educated ones have the anglais parlance just as well as anyone else.
Canada being white I have to disagree especially in the large cities. Have you been to Toronto lately? The Black population in Toronto and in Canada overall does not make a dent especially with the other foreign groups who have immigrated over the last ten years. Anyway this is not a colour issue, it's Haitian immigration issue and about saving face. Let's see what Canada does and if Trudeau lives up to his open door policy.
-MP.
Unfortunately it is always a color thing with Haitians, lets be honest - whether here in DR, the US or Canada. At least they aren't terrorists like many of the refugees flooding in.
In this situation, I don't think it is a colour issue. We will have to agree to disagree on this point.
-MP.
.....could never understand Dominicans attraction to places like ...NEW YORK CITY...and surrounding area, or Miami....have traveled all of the USA, ....NYC would be my last choice, also the most expensive....when I change planes in JFK airport....not even sure NYC is part of the USA............Doc.......
Definitely not a colour issue. I worked with numerous immigrants to Canada in the Military, from Haiti, Ghana, Nigeria, Ivory Coast......etc. I don't belive Canadian Immigration looks at colour as a negative or a positive.
Dominicans are attracted to NYC because there are a million other Dominicans there...you can find any number of salons and barberos..
I agree. It’s not about colour, it’s about valid refugee status and the ability of Canada to absorb the best candidates through our vetting system. My only experience with Haitians is due to 12 winters in the DR. Most I’ve met are honest, hard working, and talented, especially those in the masonry trade. Canada has an aging population. The only demographic with a growing young population in Canada now is Aboriginals. We need young educated people from all cultures to fill jobs in all the professions. If we allow a percentage of Haitians to do that, I don’t have a problem with it. Those that are truly eligible will succeed through our vetting system. The Syrian refugee crisis was the last test of our vetting system. Of the 5000 admitted, all had sponsors, church’s, community groups, etc. Too my knowledge only one ot two were convicted of criminal activities after they were admitted. Proof to me that our system works. Vermont and Quebec share a border. Those Haitains that don’t qualify will be bussed back to US customs officials on the Vermont side. The majority of the Haitians under TPS are still a US problem.
As well as Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and across the pond in places such as Zürich, Geneva, Basel, Madrid, Barcelona, and Valencia. Quite interesting indeed.
very true, but in far smaller numbers. the epicenter is Washington Heights, but if you go to the country of Guyana, and go to a little town way out in the outback , across the Berbice River, you will find Dominican girls working in a topless bar there.
I can assure you that I would not be found travelling across the Guyanese outback in search of a Canadian Ballet. How this relates to the topic at hand is beyond me.
I suppose that any move to send these people back will be challenged in the courts and may take years to resolve and as Trump is seen by many as a one term President ,the actual repatriation may not take place.I think the first step must be to stop the population growth in Haiti in much the same way as was done in China . That will stabilise the situation. Then the next step is the reforestation of the country and this where I think the repatriated Haitians could help if a country could donate trees and hoses to water the plants .
I do not think the Haitians from the USA will come here to the DR unless by illegal means . I actually wonder what type of work these Haitians in the USA can do .
I do not think the Haitians from the USA will come here to the DR unless by illegal means . I actually wonder what type of work these Haitians in the USA can do .
French is not really spoken in Montreal. I studied French for 8 years and could not understand the language spoken in Quebec. But I suppose it is close enough to what Haitians speak that they can understand enough to get buy versus English.
As for getting Haitians into Canada, have your heard the plight of the Canadian man in Puerto Plata trying to get a Haitian girl he has been taking care of for years in the DR into Canada?
Has anyone seen the USA government comment on what will happen to the children of these Haitians who were born in the USA?
Perhaps Chinese investments can stabilize Haiti. They have also been discussed. That would be a first in recent history and I don't know of anyone that can reasonably expect that to happen. As far as stabilizing population growth in Haiti, how could that be done?
Haitians almost always enter the DR and stay illegally.
As far as Haitians being returned to Haiti, the term "temporary" must be considered in any legal challenge to their temporary protected status. Hard to imagine how courts could interpret the word temporary as permanent, but stranger things have happened.
As mentioned above, it will probably remain tied up within the judicial process for years to come, up until the children are of legal age to petition for their parents to remain in the US or Canada legally with them. Indeed, we shall see.
Immigration reform is next. Petitioning for relatives, parents, siblings, etc, should be greatly reduced in priority and legal immigration for those with skills that allow them to be productive should have priority. We shall see.
You may not be aware that the mere birth of a child in North America does not guarantee the child nor their parents the right to live in the United States or Canada, at least not until the child reaches the age of majority. Put another way, the family can be and often is removed from the U.S. or Canada, even if they have a native born child, because they do not have lawful status in the country. Some time in the future, once the child becomes an adult, they will be able to return to the U.S. or Canada, but that is down the road. It does not prevent deportation now.
Once a citizen child reaches 21 in the case of the United States and 18 in the case of Canada, that child can return to North America and eventually sponsor their parents to legally immigrate to the country of citizenship. As for education in the meantime, unless the child can show legal guardianship or custody by a U.S. or Canadian citizen that would give them permission to reside in North America, they will not be able to study here, either.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjs...ion-the-myth-of-the-anchor-baby/#7dd7497fe801
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