Is America a Socialist Country?

the gorgon

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Yeah.

He should have called Al Sharpton, a TV guy known to bring folks together.

Together we much.

the `point is, cobraboy, that in a sensitive, racially charged issue such as this, people have to take well measured decisions. Al Sharpton , and Sean Hannity, are not the only two people left in America. if he did feel importuned to spill his guts, there are 300 million people to whom he could have turned. i fail to see how this can be lost on you. a white man shoots an unarmed black kid, and heads for the moral support of one of the country?s most racially polarizing figures. this guy was advised to deescalate the situation, and leave the young man alone. the fact that he pursued him, and got out of his car to confront him, speaks to some issue more deep seated than neighborhood protection, since the youngster had not actually DONE anything illegal, but Zimmerman reflexively felt that since he was a young black man, it was inevitable that the only thoughts which could have been crossing his mind would be those of inflicting misery upon good clean white folks.
 

greydread

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the `point is, cobraboy, that in a sensitive, racially charged issue such as this, people have to take well measured decisions. Al Sharpton , and Sean Hannity, are not the only two people left in America. if he did feel importuned to spill his guts, there are 300 million people to whom he could have turned. i fail to see how this can be lost on you. a white man shoots an unarmed black kid, and heads for the moral support of one of the country?s most racially polarizing figures. this guy was advised to deescalate the situation, and leave the young man alone. the fact that he pursued him, and got out of his car to confront him, speaks to some issue more deep seated than neighborhood protection, since the youngster had not actually DONE anything illegal, but Zimmerman reflexively felt that since he was a young black man, it was inevitable that the only thoughts which could have been crossing his mind would be those of inflicting misery upon good clean white folks.

You're wasting your time here. This is all Al Sharpton and President Obama's fault....oh yeah and Harry Belafonte and Malcolm X and Nat Turner and......
 

cobraboy

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You're wasting your time here. This is all Al Sharpton and President Obama's fault....oh yeah and Harry Belafonte and Malcolm X and Nat Turner and......
Surely an intelligent man such as yourself can see beyond race to understand the actions of a scared guy.

'Dread, have you ever had a literal "dead or alive" bounty put on your head by the NBPs?

Additionally, how can one compare the racial polarization of anyone to a guy like Al Sharpton? hannity is worse? You have to be kidding me. I doubt either of you guys have ever listened to Hannity. Get first-hand info, make your own judgements based on facts, and quit relying on someone else telling you what to think.

I don't think I've made one comment here in defense of Zimmerman beyond wanting the law followed. Perhaps you can link me to it. Seems there is a lot of presumptions going on...

BTW: if Obama wanted this to calm down, he could do it. Remember that Bully Pulpit you guys talked about before? He didn't ~cause~ the problem, but he could influence the outcome. IF he wanted.
 

greydread

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Surely an intelligent man such as yourself can see beyond race to understand the actions of a scared guy.

'Dread, have you ever had a literal "dead or alive" bounty put on your head by the NBPs?

Additionally, how can one compare the racial polarization of anyone to a guy like Al Sharpton? hannity is worse? You have to be kidding me. I doubt either of you guys have ever listened to Hannity. Get first-hand info, make your own judgements based on facts, and quit relying on someone else telling you what to think.

I don't think I've made one comment here in defense of Zimmerman beyond wanting the law followed. Perhaps you can link me to it. Seems there is a lot of presumptions going on...

BTW: if Obama wanted this to calm down, he could do it. Remember that Bully Pulpit you guys talked about before? He didn't ~cause~ the problem, but he could influence the outcome. IF he wanted.

Please reread post #166. In my first paragraph I stated my take on the event.

They know what they like. The real issue here was never race. It was the sense of entitlement that some yahoo from a family of LE and legal professionals (who kept him out of jail every previous time he ran afoul of the law) has to feel obliged as an individual to act as judge, jury and executioner based on his imagined profiling prowess. That's the issue here, not race.

I don't think that Sean Hannity is "worse" than Al Sharpton. I think that he IS Al Sharpton. They are both self promoting, pompous jerks who try to drum up attention to themselves by beating whatever the hot "story" is and using racial division as their tool of choice. They just have different approaches because they are trying to reach different audiences.

I've watched Mr. Hannity on Fox for years and my opinion of him didn't develop overnight, nor was it handed to me by someone else. Granted, he's no Rush Limbaugh. No he's far more subtle. He's what Geraldo would be if he weren't...well...Geraldo.

Just as you do, I'd like the law followed. Zimmerman's retired magistrate judge of a father was allowed to lie on a Hannity interview, they knew it was a lie and they aired it anyway when he claimed that his Son did not pursue Trayvon in direct conflict with what his Son had told police investigators under questioning (in his presence).

As for the President of the United States of America using a 'bully pulpit" to "calm it down", I don't think that him actively interfering was the right answer and apparently neither did he. All Trayvon's Parents wanted, all I wanted (like anyone gives a sh!t) and all the President of the United States of America and everybody who sees the murder of this child as a tragedy wanted was for the case to be handled properly which the State of Florida finally decided to do. The State Attorney "calmed it down" which I, among others thought was very appropriate.

....and who the heck is the NBP? Are they the new NWA? and where did they get money for a bounty? They must be rappers or something. Seriously, the last thing we need around here is another dumas "hate group".
 

cobraboy

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As for the President of the United States of America using a 'bully pulpit" to "calm it down", I don't think that him actively interfering was the right answer and apparently neither did he.
"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."

Kinda says it all.