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METRO - Looks like some of us had a clue?
The Metro is ranked as one of the success stories of the PLD government. To the credit of Leonel Fernandez. Also credit goes to Diandino Pena who amidst accusations of overvaluation and what you may want to say has delivered a quality train system. The metro allows people to arrive rested where they are going. The trains are packed.
And regarding overvaluation, during this government there have been checks on the spending. I speak from first hand knowledge. My husband was invited to be part of the "veeduria" group and speaks highly of the construction and the work carried out by Diandino Pena. He said that the Veeduria group has been efficient in stopping overspending. The group called for an end to "emergency" contracting and this was accepted by OPRET, among other measures.
I think Santo Domingo will be blessed with more lines and it will make a BIG difference with other cities.
Those of you who have been to Bogota can tell how a metro makes all the difference in the liveability of a city.
The decision of whether there will be more metro lines is not the decision, it is where the next line will be laid. There is a push to go ahead with the short line that heads to the Colonial City. Many of the hotels and residences are now located in the Poligono Central, and a line to the Colonial City would put everyone 10 minutes away.
Go metro, go!
And regarding overvaluation, during this government there have been checks on the spending. I speak from first hand knowledge. My husband was invited to be part of the "veeduria" group and speaks highly of the construction and the work carried out by Diandino Pena. He said that the Veeduria group has been efficient in stopping overspending. The group called for an end to "emergency" contracting and this was accepted by OPRET, among other measures.
I think Santo Domingo will be blessed with more lines and it will make a BIG difference with other cities.
Those of you who have been to Bogota can tell how a metro makes all the difference in the liveability of a city.
The decision of whether there will be more metro lines is not the decision, it is where the next line will be laid. There is a push to go ahead with the short line that heads to the Colonial City. Many of the hotels and residences are now located in the Poligono Central, and a line to the Colonial City would put everyone 10 minutes away.
Go metro, go!
Took the words out of my mouth.................. Metro Rocks, it's a beautiful thing..............
My take on the Metro is that it was a good project at the wrong time. I know that it is well liked by those that use it and the trains are full. However, there are so many other pressing infrastructure needs that could have been taken care of with that money. Then afterwards a subway could have been considered.
absolutely, Frank. most pressing is to bring the education system up to 20th century standards. even that would be nice. it is a matter of priorities. it would be nice to have a ridership wherein all the people could read the signs.
priorities, priorities. i am tired of people asking me if Jamaica is suffering the same snowstorm conditions that the northeast of the US is.
MAYBE THE MONEY COULD BE SPENT ON PUBLIC HEALTH, EDUCATION, clean water,just to name a FEW!!!!!!!!
I HAVE TWO SONS THAT RIDE THE METRO TO UNIV. EVERYDAY.
I'M SURE THEy, LIKE THE OTHERS WHO BENEFIT FROM THE LINE LIKE IT too!
The question that we will NEVER have the answer to is, how much did it cost to build, and how much it the annual subsidy to keep it rolling???????????????????????
Why did the DR pay 4 million dollars per car, when two other countries only paid 2 million per car????????????
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I HAVE TWO SONS THAT RIDE THE METRO TO UNIV. EVERYDAY.
I'M SURE THEy, LIKE THE OTHERS WHO BENEFIT FROM THE LINE LIKE IT too!
The question that we will NEVER have the answer to is, how much did it cost to build, and how much it the annual subsidy to keep it rolling???????????????????????
Why did the DR pay 4 million dollars per car, when two other countries only paid 2 million per car????????????
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you know the answer to that, CC. the prices of jeepetas keep going up. you cant have a Dominican politico driving a two year old jeepeta. that is simply not polite.
I did my part. I rode the Metro today. 20 peso per ride if you use the metro card, 35 pesos if you pay cash. A bargain at the higher price for the cleanliness and a/c alone. Traffic in SD is still just too much. If I lived there, being close to a metro station would be high on my list of "must haves".
traffic in SD is high because the train is utilized by people who have no cars. people from Arroyo Hondo are not going to leave the Benz in the driveway to go sit beside Belkis and Fausto. what the metro has done is to get people out of carritos for a part of the journey. it has not eased traffic congestion. i know that there are going to be some foreigners that tell me they have cars, yet ride the metro. save it. you are not Dominican. the cultural dynamics are different.
exactly. guys from Darien, CT, and the ritzy Westchester suburbs, ride the Metro North, because they have nothing to prove, nor anyone to impress. people in developing countries who own cars need to be seen in them. they would rather walk than have the hoi polloi seeing them riding public transportation.
ha education problems are all over the euros have a lot of places beat... couple of years ago i noticed that the spanish mom's were actualy helping out the teachers and aides with un ruly kids...they are demanding and getting better performance for their kids...want them separated from the un ruly/wild kids...segregation in reverse....Atlanta education system was (is) in a long time trial over cheating (teachers..).. ha ha ha spare the rod and spoil the child...
truly correct....but in nyc they have like 6 lines north and south couple cross town and bunches of others coming and going to the outer boros.....lots of trains in s.d. they have a lot of work to do... feeder lines is important...
Right here. I use the metro all the time. It beats having to take above ground transportation and fight with traffic. Plus, since I do live in the east, in the future it will mean less chance of being a victim of a day light robbery while passing through Los Minos in bumper to bumper traffic. I have no problem with tax payers floating the bill.
When the middle class and up also ride the Metro like they do in Medellin, Bogota, New York, London, Madrid etc, then I would call it a success. That is a sign of truly evolving society overcoming the social stigma of it being linked to a form of transport predominately for the poor.
i have been trying to express that notion all along, but you have stated it more lucidly than i have. the guy who can afford the Land Cruiser is not riding any poor people?s transportation.
It takes more than just two very limited lines to get people with more than one commute a day to board the Metro.
Generally speaking, the more likes added, the more chances that these sectors of society will make regular use of it.
After all, there's no point to take the Metro to work if you still need to go fetch the car to pick up the dry cleaned clothes or a run for some donuts for the kids. Limitations are what we have now, but the impact was more felt and intended to center around the least economically well to do.
Keep in mind, that each of those sites you listed had the same stigma problems when social/economic classes met.
The Metro is NOT considered for the poor onto itself by the middle and upper classes in the DR, but more accessible to the less to do, rightly so due to the location of the stations and service areas for now.
When Lines 1,2,3,4,5,6,7, shuttles 8,9,10,11,12 get fully rendered and feeder systems are in place, you'll see the same as the places listed above in your quoted post.
The SD Metro is going to continue growing until it covers the entirety the city Santo Domingo. Then from there it will expand beyond the city and well into the surrounding burbs on the province itself.
As it is now, The city proper is dense. When the Metro covers well enough of the city to travel sans car, the density will be suffocating.
that assessment does not address the sociological reality that Robert observed. how about you take a crack at it...