Any chance they were built before the law? *Near us there are several homes right on the beach, especially in Palenque, when you step out the door onto sand, and water is 10' away. Grandfathered in.
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Nice house on the beach in Cabarete
Any chance they were built before the law? *Near us there are several homes right on the beach, especially in Palenque, when you step out the door onto sand, and water is 10' away. Grandfathered in.
A bit harsh don't you think? It's just a house. And they've no pool or septic now.
It does look like less then 60 meters but the article only mentions the pool and septic being removed, nothing of the house being in violation.
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That would suggest that septic would now be dumped directly into the Atlantic without even a small amount of filtration. As evidenced by the pipes in the picture.
That would suggest the "house" is in violation.
The structure can be found on Google Earth at the these coordinates: 19?46'24.96" N 70?26'07.01" W Just copy/paste them in the search bar.
The set back as I understand it is 60 meter to the mean high tide line. Using the " GE Ruler", it looks like it just squeaks in at 60 meters to the water's edge in the photo. Is it at high tide when the photo was taken? Where was the high tide line when it was approved?
In any case, the pool and septic are definitely within the 60 meter set back.
The set back as I understand it is 60 meter to the mean high tide line. Using the " GE Ruler", it looks like it just squeaks in at 60 meters to the water's edge in the photo. Is it at high tide when the photo was taken? Where was the high tide line when it was approved?
In any case, the pool and septic are definitely within the 60 meter set back.
The one in the water probably. *The hotel one was originally a 2 bedroom house and now is 18 bedrooms done in tha last few years. So I think propinas made it happen
I don't think its harsh. Rules are put into place for everybody. Just because you have deeper pockets or highly placed friends shouldn't exempt you from the rules.*
They should be forced to live there... ugh, what an eyesore. I bet it starts listing towards the ocean, which will make the whole thing unstable.
Reminds me of the cliffside mansions in CA that ended up falling into the ocean.
Reminds me of the cliffside mansions in CA that ended up falling into the ocean.
Slightly OT but talking of eyesores, has anyone else noticed the monstrosity that has appeared on the hilltop just east of Gaspar Hernandez, above the Casa Blanca restaurant?
My "harsh" response was in regards to the house washing away. And I agree about following rules, I think the DR should adopt 1st world type Zoning laws and stick to them. But that is in the distant future.
We don't know what the story is as to how the septic and pool ended up in non-compliance or what the owner was told or thought. I've been building for 50 years (I'm 62) and I can tell you it's not an exact science. Stuff happens.
Nature will have its way
With certainty this I say
The hurricanes will blow
The house will eventually go
We will have the last laugh someday.
*The long fetch ( the length of the open ocean area where the wind can generate waves) combined with hurricanes with prevailing winds will create waves that will pound that beach and undermine the disturbed natural berm. The owner will be constantly battling the elements in that location. I believe everyone gets what they deserve in life. If that's what he gets, then that's what he deserves. Karma can bite you in the ass when your not looking. Lol!
With certainty this I say
The hurricanes will blow
The house will eventually go
We will have the last laugh someday.
*The long fetch ( the length of the open ocean area where the wind can generate waves) combined with hurricanes with prevailing winds will create waves that will pound that beach and undermine the disturbed natural berm. The owner will be constantly battling the elements in that location. I believe everyone gets what they deserve in life. If that's what he gets, then that's what he deserves. Karma can bite you in the ass when your not looking. Lol!
Having had ocean front property on higher protecting cliffs and set back.... Ecoman is right. The salt air is a constant maintenance issue as it penetrates the cement and eats into rebar and expands it. Everything becomes infected with the salt air. No way to stop nature and her process. The disruption with the construction with change the lands natural resistance very quickly. I've seen this over and over with huge amounts of money poor ... right into the ocean to disappear with the first storm.
Russian? Not the first place that a Russian has build that violates several laws. I have friends that tell me that one major project on the ocean that is expanding have the septic going straight into the ocean. Never mind about several other infractions that are too many to list. But it's not just the Russians as it has become the norm that anyone with money can do what they want.
Another blatant case of disrespect and paying off others to get what they want and everyone else and the law can go to hell as far as they are concerned.
Russian? Not the first place that a Russian has build that violates several laws. I have friends that tell me that one major project on the ocean that is expanding have the septic going straight into the ocean. Never mind about several other infractions that are too many to list. But it's not just the Russians as it has become the norm that anyone with money can do what they want.
Another blatant case of disrespect and paying off others to get what they want and everyone else and the law can go to hell as far as they are concerned.
Another example is "Seawinds" in Punta Goleta 2. It's the "W" shaped project that you can see on Google Earth about 2.5km SE of the beach house. Part of that project, including the pool, is built within the 60m setback. I think it was approved and built around 2012(?). I've heard from good sources that many wealthy, well connected Dominicans own units there.
Salt air, poor quality construction, ocean waves will make short work of this house. Wonder if they used salt water in the concrete mix. I give it five years before it starts falling apart. Those poor rich people. Living on the ocean can be a big shock. Your cars, air conditioning, any exposed metal practically dissolves. Not to mention easy criminal access by boat. Good luck.
true *words, zoom. i have never understood this fascination about living beachside, when you need new appliances every 4 years, and yout tv lasts 5, at best.*
In a perfect world when the septic tanks are full a really big wave would come along and force sewage up to the top floor. This would be a rinse and repeat until the game changing wave comes along and takes out the windows and furniture. Then maybe they will understand why the rules where put in place.
As I said in perfect world. I dont think any of their high placed friends could do much for them then.
Yep. I always tell folks the only people interested in living on the beach are folks that haven't lived on the beach.