Cardinals Prospect Oscar Taveras Killed In Car Crash

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You don't get it.
It not just about Taveras or THIS incident. It's about the attitude that LEADS up to those regrettable incidents.
You don't get it.
The tree could have been a guaguita stop, a car full of people or just pedestrians.
You don't get it.
If we stop REMINDING and POINTING out WHAT the issue is, the jollier they will continue like this.

But maybe, you're not old enough.

By all means, mourn him, but don't forget that he went TAKING a LIFE!
By all means, mourn him, but Mourn her MORE.

I see an accident almost happening EVERY day BECAUSE that Trujillo style "yo soy el mejor" IDIOTIC hell driving style.
And let me correct, no I am not grumpy, I am FED UP with it. There is nothing more third worldish than an underskilled idiot racing down a street in a luxury car.



... J-D.

JD, i was just trying to imagine what would have been the public's response if the had plowed into a bus stop and killed a dozen women and children. why do i get the nagging feeling that the focus would still have been on his passing?
 

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What do they say..would of, should of and could of. It is sad for both families but I do feel for the girls family. I am sure the girl thought she was safe, that her "man" had it under control. The father of Oscar Tavares was quoted as saying more or less that he hopes this serves as a lesson to everyone to take things "con calma". One his teammates was quoted as saying that Oscar liked to drink and " se llev? demasiado de los amigos". To me who he was is why everyone is talking about this rather than how or why he died. Yes it is very sad that a young man in his prime with a career ahead of him had this happen but doesn't it happen almost daily here?
 

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What do they say..would of, should of and could of. It is sad for both families but I do feel for the girls family. I am sure the girl thought she was safe, that her "man" had it under control. The father of Oscar Tavares was quoted as saying more or less that he hopes this serves as a lesson to everyone to take things "con calma". One his teammates was quoted as saying that Oscar liked to drink and " se llev? demasiado de los amigos". To me who he was is why everyone is talking about this rather than how or why he died. Yes it is very sad that a young man in his prime with a career ahead of him had this happen but doesn't it happen almost daily here?


How he lived is how not only he wasted his live, it's also how he wasted an 18 year old girl's life.
How he lived was known and it's been celebrated in the "tiguere" culture as a goal... drinking, party's, blowing out money... and acting like the king of the world.
His parents have all reason to say "con calma" they LOST as son, the girls parents may have a different point of view, since their girl was TAKEN.
It happens everyday yes, but usually, a town is not set into mourning when one hits a tree, a post, a person, a bus stop... the difference here is only that he could hit a hard ball. I must admit I haven't even TRIED to hit one... and I get it that it's not easy, but it's not like he saved lives, or went out to treat Ebola patients or any thing earth moving. But I do get it that he had his fans and might have served as an inspiration to kids thinking "la pelota" could be a way out of poverty (as unlikely as playing Loto really, but understandable)... the problem however is, that when some of them become famous, often the feel compelled to act like he acted, make the mistakes he did REPEATEDLY, disrespectful of not only their own life, but everybody's life, because now they are "El Jefe".
And this is what I am fed up with.
I've said it many times, in most Dominicans there is something of Juan Bosh... they like lyrics and poesy, claim to read books, but way to often, when they're put into a position of RESPONSIBILITY, many mistake it as a position of AUTHORITY... and much of Trujillo comes afloat "ahora voy yo", "a mi nadie me viene a decir na'", "que yo soy el XYZ y soy amigo del XYZX".

... J-D.
 

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Thieves steal equipment from P-D journalists at funeral for Taveras

There are few circumstances in which good journalists want to become a story rather than cover one, but through no fault of their own two Post-Dispatch staffers became the center of attention while reporting on developments this week in a foreign country.

Cardinals beat writer Derrick Goold and photographer Chris Lee were in the Dominican Republic to cover the funeral of Cardinals outfielder Oscar Taveras, 22, who, along with his girlfriend, were killed Sunday in a car accident there. But the attention soon turned to the journalists.

They arrived Tuesday and because the visitation already was under way they rented a car and were led directly to that site, not having time to check in to a hotel.

“We had to race there,” Goold said.

The funeral followed, as did Taveras’ coffin being carried through the streets of his hometown of Sosua en route to a cemetery. It was quite a scene, with Goold saying “thousands and thousands of people descended.”

The journalists were separated. Lee took dramatic photos of the events and Goold conducted interviews and spent time with Cards pitcher Carlos Martinez, a longtime friend of Taveras, in compiling his compelling report.

When they had completed that phase of their work, they returned to their rental car and discovered that it had been broken into and all their belongings that had been inside were gone — among them computer equipment, a camera lens, clothes and personal items — including a journal Goold had kept that included entries about his young son’s life. Three other vehicles also had been broken into, police told them.

All they had was what had been on them, which fortunately included their passports.

It became a big deal there, with the local media taking hold of the story of American journalists becoming crime victims while in their country to help honor a hometown hero and relay the information back to the U.S.

That led to local citizens embracing the journalists.

“Carlos Martinez was very helpful to us,” Goold said. “Many people were tremendous to us. This town is grieving, has just lost a beloved son and the people rally to help us. It was remarkable.”

Goold still had to write his story and Lee had to process and file his photos to the Post-Dispatch.

“It became a community effort to find a place” for us to work, Goold said. “They made the best of the situation.’’

Lee said Ydelqui Brito, Taveras’ attorney, was especially helpful, doing whatever was necessary to accommodate them — accompanying them for four or five hours after already having spent all day running the funeral proceedings after more than a day of planning.

“He was instrumental in helping us being able to complete our jobs,” Lee said. “I can’t say enough about him.”

Lee and Goold were taken to multiple places to try to find internet access and computers that would accommodate what they needed. They ended up at an art gallery, but it was unsuitable for their needs. So the man who runs it, one of Brito’s friends, took them to his home — where his son was about to have his ninth birthday party. The journalists were able to complete their jobs there, although they had to work on a keyboard set to type in Spanish. It was a highly unusual experience.

“They gave us water and birthday cake,” Goold said. “They were tremendous to us.”

He said two police officers, as well as Brito, stayed with them until they finally made it to their hotel at about 1 a.m.

“The people there showed us compassion, respect and treated us tremendously,” Goold said.

When they were at the airport the next day to return home, Goold said they were noticed because of all the media coverage.

“People were apologizing,’’ he said. “They were very sorry about what happened to us.”

That was a general theme.

“For the people to help us the way they did while they were mourning, I have a tremendous amount of appreciation and respect for that,” he added. “They didn’t have to do anything because in a way we were intruding on their day, their pain, and they did everything they could to help us.”

He added that what happened to them is minor in the big picture.

“We were there to cover a funeral; I don’t want to lose sight of the tragedy that brought us there,” Goold said. “Us losing our stuff — it’s just stuff. Somebody lost their life. That’s what’s important.”
 

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Future St. Louis Cardinals reflect on the life, impact of Oscar Taveras

As was made clear by his nickname ("El Fenomeno"), Oscar Taveras was destined for greatness. Based on the memorial currently outside of Busch Stadium, the tremendous showing at his funeral, and the following reflections from ex-teammates, Oscar achieved greatness.

Tyrell Jenkins, RHP

OT was a guy you wanted on your team, in your clubhouse, and representing your organization. The guy had all the talent in the world, but better yet, he was the funniest guy around! Words cannot explain what he meant to me and the millions of people he affected. God makes no mistakes, and he called up a star player on Sunday for HIS big league team. Rest in peace, brother. Fly high!

Jonathan Rodriguez, 1B

Well, we all know how gifted Oscar was, and all the fans probably are going to remember him for the potential he displayed that never got a chance to show at the big league level, but I'll remember him as the fun and outgoing human being he was. He lived with me all of 2011 in Quad Cities, and it was fun how childish and fun he acted around the apartment—always with a smile on throughout the whole day. I was always giving him advice and helping him and Carlos Martinez adapt to life in the States. It was funny because to them at that point, it was so different from Dominican Republic. There was never a dull moment with him and if Carlos was around, it was even better. That's how I'll remember him.

Alex Reyes, RHP

Oscar was an amazing person. He was a kid who had nothing but love and passion for the game. He was like a brother to me. He was the guy in the clubhouse that made me feel like a Cardinal from the first day I set foot in Jupiter. Back home in the Dominican Republic, Carlos and Oscar are role models. Both of them coming up together throughout the system and experiencing 45,000+ people at Busch Stadium is something out of a book. It’s literally everyone’s dream. It came true for them. He lived it. Our entire country rooted for them to flourish together. It was a one-two punch that any organization would build around...

I'd like to express my condolences to the Taveras family as well as the Arvelo family. In memory of Oscar, I'll be wearing a "RIP OT" on my glove for the rest of my professional baseball career. I love you, brother. Dominican Republic, St. Louis, and baseball will always remember you. RIP El Fenomeno.

Rob Kaminsky, LHP

I met Oscar my first year in pro ball. I was in the GCL, and he came down to Florida for rehab. First time I met him, he introduced himself and asked about me. Every day we saw each other, talked, and I continued to learn more and more about the game from OT. You would have never been able to tell he was a top prospect in baseball. No ego, no arrogance, strictly just a good person. He made sure me and the other rookies were comfortable, and that's something I'll take with me for my entire career. In the time I knew him, I never saw him upset or angry. He always had that big smile on his face because he was doing what he truly loved, and that was playing baseball. Oscar, may you rest in peace, my friend. Thank you for all you taught me, and all you showed me, through leading by example. RIP OT.

Anthony Ray, OF

I had a couple of great memories with OT. When I started with the Cardinals, everybody told me about Oscar Taveras, the best hitter in the minor leagues. During my first year in the GCL, I got a chance to meet him when he was rehabbing. We introduced ourselves and we clicked right away. I still remember the time when I was walking through the hotel and I saw him in his room, so I went through the grass outside and jumped on the balcony into his room. He was like, "What's up, Papi?" I said, "What up, OT? How is the leg?" He said, "Good. It feels much better." Oscar was sitting down playing Dragon Ball Z on the PS3. It was pretty cool because we got to talking about all the characters on the TV Show. I said to myself, "Oscar is a big kid just like me." The next day Oscar came up to me and gave me one of his game-used bats. Oscar was a great person on and off the field. I look up to him. He will be missed. Love you, OT.

DeAndre Asbury-Heath, OF

There is a lot I remember personally about my close friend and teammate Oscar Taveras. He wasn’t just a phenomenal player, he was a phenomenal person. Remembering the times we would hit in the cages together, and he’d help me with things pertaining to my swing to ensure I can be the best player I could be. That’s one of the many things I loved, missed, and will always remember about Oscar Taveras. Great friend and teammate. Love you, OT. Miss you, man.

Malik Collymore, 2B

Oscar was a player that all us young guys wanted to be like. He was a great talent, but along with that, he was also a great guy to have around the clubhouse. During the short time I knew him while he was on rehab in Florida, he always had a smile on his face and a presence that made everyone around him comfortable. We would watch him take batting practice, and I would think to myself that the ball just jumped off the bat differently when he made contact. Oscar's passing surely is a heartbreaking and crushing blow to both his family as well as the Cardinal Nation because he had such a promising career ahead of him. He will truly be missed, and I know all members of the St. Louis Cardinals organization will play this upcoming season with him in our thoughts.

Sam Tuivailala, RHP

Oscar was a great competitor who had so much potential to do some great things, but more importantly, he was a great guy who was always smiling and enjoying life. We will truly miss seeing him.

Kurt Heyer, RHP

Even though Oscar and I never really knew each other personally, we both spoke the language of baseball. I was fortunate enough to have my locker next to his in big league camp this year. I knew right away that he was going to be special. His actions spoke louder than words. He demonstrated what it meant to be a Cardinal. When I got called up to AAA this season, he was the first one to shake my hand to congratulate me. It was an honor to play with him even if it was only 3 weeks. I only hope he continues to be who he was in heaven.

Oscar Mercado, SS

Oscar was a great player and an even better person. My first year, while he was rehabbing down in Florida, he really welcomed me. He always made me laugh about the fact that we were the only Oscars. He will be greatly missed.

Jordan Swagerty, RHP

Oscar was such a remarkable baseball player, but an even better person. I will miss his joking around in the clubhouse and his passion for the game. Such a sad loss.

Charlie Tilson, OF

My first Spring Training, I had a locker next to Oscar. We had a running joke of coming back and seeing who had more hits on our respective fields. Some days I'd come back almost sure I had him beat. More often than not, I'd find out from his big smile that I was wrong. He was incredible. We all looked up to Oscar. Not just for his ability but his passion for the game. He'll be truly missed by all his teammates. RIP OT.

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Amazing. Good. Great (x 3). Phenomenal. Better. These are all words that could very easily describe who Oscar was as a baseball player. We all knew that by now. However, all five of them were used in a much different context here. All five of them were used to describe who Oscar was as a person, as a friend, as a teammate, and as a mentor. Oscar was much more than just a baseball player, and we were truly blessed to have him in the Cardinals organization.

Rest in peace, Oscar.

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/st-loui...s-reflect-on-the-life-impact-of-oscar-taveras
 
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No doubt the guy was well liked however role model I am not so sure. No offense meant but he seems/sounds like most any other Dominican athlete (or athlete from anywhere for that matter) that makes it. While we constantly hear about Oscar Tavares I do wonder about the girls family. It must be very hard for them all the attention given to this young man when they are grieving the loss of their daughter. One thing I did find strange (probably just me) is that Oscar's family were present the next day at a baseball game (Santiago) honoring their son. I am just not sure as a parent I would be ready for that or the attention. But things work different here. I am just wondering if maybe the tribute to him could have waited a bit longer. Again just my opinion. I realize everyone handles grieve in their own way.
 

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Not any different tha when John Kennedy Jr. died who pilots said was an inexperienced
pilot who not only cause his own death but the life of his wife, his sister in law and his
unborn child as it was reported that Carolyn was pregnant. I read the stories and for months
all you heard was about the life of John and seldom did anyone even mention his sister
in law. But did anyone complain about that? Then why when this athlete that was beloved
of Dominicans mean or be any different? Thousands mourned John Kennedy Jr deaths.
But the focus was on him because of his status. That does not mean that her family was
less regarded.

Yes, Oscar Taveras took a life but he also died and so paid with it also.

I do know what it is to lose someone so tragically, because more than 10 years ago I lost
a beloved nephew on account of a girlfriend over an ex jealous boyfriend. He invited her to
one of his birthday parties in a club that he was celebrating and she had the audacity to
accept the invitation only because she wanted to show off her new boyfriend. We the family
begged him not to go with her but he wouldn't listen. It happened that while they were at
the party the ex boyfriend grabbed her and began dancing with her and then he forced a kiss
on her. My nephew saw it and all hell broke loose. They began to fight and my nephew was
getting the best of it, as later told by one of his friends who also went with him and testified,
that a friend of the ex boyfriend stabbed my nephew and as a result he got the advantage.
My nephew in the coffin was unrecognizable. We kept saying that's not him. John jr's. took
4 lives, yet people were saying may they rest in peace.

Did my family TOTALLY put the blame on her? Although he lost his life and she still lives? No,
we knew that he took some of the blame just as well, for not having better judgment and not
heeding to the advice that we gave him.

The "girlfriend" crying and lamenting asked the family for forgiveness and we forgave her.
 
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No doubt the guy was well liked however role model I am not so sure. No offense meant but he seems/sounds like most any other Dominican athlete (or athlete from anywhere for that matter) that makes it. While we constantly hear about Oscar Tavares I do wonder about the girls family. It must be very hard for them all the attention given to this young man when they are grieving the loss of their daughter. One thing I did find strange (probably just me) is that Oscar's family were present the next day at a baseball game (Santiago) honoring their son. I am just not sure as a parent I would be ready for that or the attention. But things work different here. I am just wondering if maybe the tribute to him could have waited a bit longer. Again just my opinion. I realize everyone handles grieve in their own way.

You are right Keepcoming in that everyone handles grief differently. What might seem
disrespectful to some, is actually consolation to others.
 

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Exactly..everyone grieves in their own way. However I still question the public display in Santiago (baseball game). I know things here are different but again as a parent I could not even imagine being able to "face the crowd" the next day. As everyone gathers to remember Oscar I do hope they remember that another life was taken. She wasn't "famous" except for her connection to Oscar, but I am sure her family grieves just the same.
 

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Report: Oscar Taveras Was Extremely Drunk At Time Of Fatal Crash

"St. Louis Cardinals outfielder Oscar Taveras was exceedingly drunk when he crashed his car in the Dominican Republic last month?killing himself and his girlfriend?according to the Associated Press. The AP quotes a spokesperson from the Dominican attorney general's office, who says that Taveras was "legally intoxicated when he crashed."


St. Louis Cardinals Prospect Oscar Taveras Killed In Car Crash

The Spanish version of the AP story contains a much longer quote from the spokesperson, who says that the toxicology report found that Taveras's blood-alcohol level was .287. The legal limit in the Dominican Republic is .05, so Taveras was driving with nearly six times the legal amount of alcohol in him.

According to various online blood-alcohol calculators, Taveras would have had to consume roughly 15 drinks in two hours?or a couple more in three or four hours?to be so drunk."


Spanish version
AP Noticias : Taveras estaba ebrio al momento de su accidente