Why do the Dominican people have one of the highest amount of single -mother families

[mountainannie]

Really? That sucks.. I wonder if the father can arrange a trust in case of death. Marriage for your kids.. that's total BS. I recall there was a case like that in Guam about some tycoon that fathered a child when he was on vacation in the Philipines then died in a plane crash. The kid ended up with a fortune after they did DNA, but I guess not US citizenship.

if a child has a US parent who earns Social Security .. and dies.. the child is entitled to a portion of the benefits.. as is the widow,, http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10085.pdf the surviving family can collect up to 180% of the benefits of the deceased.

folks do not really think that SS is worth that much.. but in today's market, to get a benefit of $1k a month, a portfolio of around $250k would be needed.

I think that this factoid is probably known among some of the younger Dominicanas.. that they can get the Social Security benefits when the old pasty faced Gringo padre dies... it makes them .. well.. oh.. so much more attractive...

 

[mountainannie]

Really? Even if on the Birth certificate, has gone through the passport process. This seems very odd that paternity of a child can be derived via bank balance rather than DNA. Or even more surprisingly that right of desent is not recognized. I'm very surprised iv this is true, infact I'd question a mix up of understanding.

I do not think that there is a " mix up of understanding "
C. Child Born Out of Wedlock​ [11]
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Child of a U.S. Citizen Father ​
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The provisions listed above​ [12] for a child born in wedlock apply to a child born out of wedlock outside of the United States claiming citizenship through a U.S. citizen father if:​
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•A blood relationship between the child and the father is established by clear and convincing evidence;​
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•The child’s father was a U.S. citizen at the time of the child’s birth; ​
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•The child’s father (unless deceased) has agreed in writing to provide financial support for the child until the child reaches 18 years of age; and​
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•One of the following criteria is met before the child reaches 18 years of age:​
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•The child is legitimated under the law of his or her residence or domicile;​
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•The father acknowledges in writing and under oath the paternity of the child; or​
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•The paternity of the child is established by adjudication of a competent court.​
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In addition, the residence or physical presence requirements contained in the relevant paragraph of INA 301 continue to apply to children born out of wedlock claiming citizenship through their fathers.​"
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also, Guam is a US territory.. the people have US citizenship
United States Citizens at Birth (INA 301 and 309) - Chapter 3, Part H, Volume 12 | Policy Manual | USCIS

looks as if they go through BOTH the DNA and the bank balance...

 

[Criss Colon]

I have 3 children born here in SD.
Mom is a Dominicana, and we will have been married for 20 years this October.:surprised:knockedou:knockedou:knockedou:hurt::hurt::hurt::disappoin:disappoin:disappoin

All 3 are American citizens. US passports, birth certificates, social security #s.

I get Social Security, and to my great surprise, and pleasure, so do they, until age 18.
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[porkman100]

I have 3 children born here in SD.
Mom is a Dominicana, and we will have been married for 20 years this October.:surprised:knockedou:knockedou:knockedou:hurt::hurt::hurt::disappoin:disappoin:disappoin

All 3 are American citizens. US passports, birth certificates, social security #s.

I get Social Security, and to my great surprise, and pleasure, so do they, until age 18.
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You must be one of "those" OLD pasty faced gringo padre.. that annie referred in post #145.
What makes you attractive...you ..take care of your children.
Either way.. they are lucky to have you as a father....rather than a young handsome broke Dominican... that wont care or provide for them.....or even hang around...

 

[HUG]

I do not think that there is a " mix up of understanding "

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looks as if they go through BOTH the DNA and the bank balance...

I'm surprised, seems shallow as if it is the kids fault if the dad flips burgers. What your fsther does dhould not define who you are.

 

[DRob]

I have 3 children born here in SD.
Mom is a Dominicana, and we will have been married for 20 years this October.:surprised:knockedou:knockedou:knockedou:hurt::hurt::hurt::disappoin:disappoin:disappoin

All 3 are American citizens. US passports, birth certificates, social security #s.

I get Social Security, and to my great surprise, and pleasure, so do they, until age 18.
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You would have had to make a specific designation at the time you previously retired, but if you selected the "survivor beneficiary" option on your pensions, your wife and/or kids would continue receiving payments until the beneficiary died. Your military pension should have done it automatically, though, and treat it as an annuity via the "Survivor's Benefit Plan" or SBP.

If you don't know, it's a pretty good use of 15 minutes to call and check.

I do a lot of estate planning work, and "easter eggs" like this come up more frequently than you'd think.

 

[mountainannie]

I'm surprised, seems shallow as if it is the kids fault if the dad flips burgers. What your fsther does dhould not define who you are.

this section does NOT apply if the couple is married.. only if the parents are NOT married.

How does it work in the UK? Does a child born out of wedlock to a foreign mother automatically get British citizenship with all the bells and whistles at birth?

 

[HUG]

this section does NOT apply if the couple is married.. only if the parents are NOT married.

How does it work in the UK? Does a child born out of wedlock to a foreign mother automatically get British citizenship with all the bells and whistles at birth?

Well, it wasn't exactly handed to us on a plate. Not sure what bells n whistles are in relation to passport, you either get a full British passport or not. There is no British passport and a bit extra.
No, the British nationality is a very thorough process to obtain, if you are due your rights thrn you get them, if not you don't. The British passport does not decide if you are a valid citizen based on your fathers occupation.
In the end it comes down to DNA, even with all the evidence and custody rights possible. They make you wait, put you through hell and then in the end send you for DNA anyway.

But it is a long drawn out thorough process, no bell n whistles, just your rights.

 

[mountainannie]

Well, it wasn't exactly handed to us on a plate. Not sure what bells n whistles are in relation to passport, you either get a full British passport or not. There is no British passport and a bit extra.
No, the British nationality is a very thorough process to obtain, if you are due your rights thrn you get them, if not you don't. The British passport does not decide if you are a valid citizen based on your fathers occupation.
In the end it comes down to DNA, even with all the evidence and custody rights possible. They make you wait, put you through hell and then in the end send you for DNA anyway.

But it is a long drawn out thorough process, no bell n whistles, just your rights.

Not quite sure that I understand your answer. The US process is based on whether or not the Father of an illegitamate child is willing and agrees to support the child. That is it. That seems simple enough. There is no set dollar amount. He must agree to support the child. Otherwise, of course, if the child has a US passport at birth, s/he can travel to the US with someone or unaccompanied as soon as s/he is old enough, live with a relative, and apply for government benefits. Do you not have government benefits for indigent children in Britian?

That is what is behind the requirement.

 

[Commander Ooh La La USN]

Not quite sure that I understand your answer. The US process is based on whether or not the Father of an illegitamate child is willing and agrees to support the child. That is it. That seems simple enough. There is no set dollar amount. He must agree to support the child. Otherwise, of course, if the child has a US passport at birth, s/he can travel to the US with someone or unaccompanied as soon as s/he is old enough, live with a relative, and apply for government benefits. Do you not have government benefits for indigent children in Britian?

That is what is behind the requirement.

The questionable word is "legitimate". Does it mean declare yourself the father of the child at the records office or to marry the mother of the child? Archaic language that is.

 

[PeterInBrat]

It's not clear to me whether *orphans* in the DR are accepted in public schools, assuming they can get the uniforms and other equipment. They still must have cedulas when they turn 18, right? What if the kids are of Haitian descent or even dark skinned so that their birth parents' nationality is in question? Do they typically have documents? You hear about some found in dumpsters, how do they get a real ID?

 

[chic]

You've really got to ask yourself more interestingly, WTF are all these women doing coming to a nation known for being useless, and the men being even more useless at being men. Foreign women comming and latching onto deadbeat duminicum, making a baby and expecting a family unit out of it make me ponder on why there are not mentak health restrictions enforced on single women and what they expect/believe.

There are no, well few who got lucky. The only 2 I know are from the site.

gringos will never be able to comprehend or understand the island ways...

 

[robbiee]

you are back ! welcome

gringos will never be able to comprehend or understand the island ways...

 

[HUG]

Not quite sure that I understand your answer. The US process is based on whether or not the Father of an illegitamate child is willing and agrees to support the child. That is it. That seems simple enough. There is no set dollar amount. He must agree to support the child. Otherwise, of course, if the child has a US passport at birth, s/he can travel to the US with someone or unaccompanied as soon as s/he is old enough, live with a relative, and apply for government benefits. Do you not have government benefits for indigent children in Britian?

That is what is behind the requirement.

That makes no sense as the child needs the father to get his dual nationality. A child could not travel from DR to the US or anywhere else without both parents consent.
I think you mean that a father can not take a child to the US and then expect the tax payer to support them? Which I hadn't considered. I dunno what if the fsther is disabled, and himself lives off the tax payer?. But no, I was not asked anything like this, but the UK and US are miles apart in many things.

 

[mountainannie]

The questionable word is "legitimate". Does it mean declare yourself the father of the child at the records office or to marry the mother of the child? Archaic language that is.

I used the word "legitimate" in the common sense of born inside of wedlock. I posted the requirements for a child born "out of wedlock" and the link in post 146. There is nothing unclear in the US statutes.

 

[greydread]

gringos will never be able to comprehend or understand the island ways...

The voice of reason returns

:classic:

 

[caribmike]

Who let it out?

 

[GuillermoRamon]

Bottom line, its now a cultural thing, my dominian girlfriend has one kid, never married and the dude wasnt around. I dont think i even know a chica that doesnt have at least one child, and with the real father around

 

[PeterInBrat]

Bottom line, its now a cultural thing, my dominian girlfriend has one kid, never married and the dude wasnt around. I dont think i even know a chica that doesnt have at least one child, and with the real father around

And some ppl would say that's a reflection on you because you can't get a *decent* girl.. But hang out with men who've fathered kids and bailed and there is no stigma.

Getting pregnant usually meant negativity and a big change of lifestyle: going from a nice school to a liceo, hardships, moving out of town, gossip, rejection from your family, shame on your family, etc. Especially in small towns.
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liceo?

 

[hombre987]

Ok, you arrogant people who always think that Americans are better or smarter. Here's reality... African-American Single Mother Rate is 68%! Latina Single Mother Rate in the U.S. is 43% and 26% of white women are single mothers. 62% of women from 20 to 24 in the United States are single mothers. So get a life and go solve the problems in your own country instead of always acting like we're the only ones with problems. Do we have problems? Yes, and a lot. Do you have problems in your countries? Yes, a lot. What's the difference? You left your problems just to come and criticize ours. Por Dios. Single Motherhood Increases Dramatically For Certain Demographics, Census Bureau Reports