Why do the Dominican people have one of the highest amount of single -mother families

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From what I've seen the community functions perfectly well like this. There is a community and familial responsibility
which is accepted as normal. Children are seen as an important part of life here, not some financial burden as in so-called developed countries.

To get back on topic, the above is the rose colored view of what things are like, but after spending a little time it is extremely far from true.
Now why do these young girls have kids. There is no stigma and it is the norm. They have another cute doll to play with. Also, the Grandmothers that raise the kids encourage their daughters to have kids so they "can feel young again". Now how being a grandmother makes someone feel young falls back in to Dominican logic, but the point is that the mothers actually encourage their girls to have babies, especially if they can claim it is a gringos, but that is a little off topic.
If a girl is 25 and does not have a baby the stigma is on her to have one or people will think something is wrong with her. Whether a father is in the picture doesn't appear to matter, there is more pressure to be a single mother than not a mother at all at very young ages.
Why there is no stigma is the next layer of the onion. I know, let's blame Trujillo, or maybe Haitians. I'm sure that would be the Dominican justification.
 
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If norms can change in Bangladesh, they can change in the DR. It takes time. Education and expanding the roles of women are key. Shame does not work. Hope and greater expectation does. I was once told in a leadership training course that ppl tend to behave as you expect them to, not as you want them to.

Times have changed incredibly in the DR over the last 50 years~women have a third as many babies now. Drudge work such as fetching wood and water, and laundry in a bucket(or banging it on a rock) are being modernized. Times will continue to change but in different ways. Fewer kids and fewer teen pregnancies will mean more empowerment for women and it will challenge the men's macho culture. The men dropped the ball supporting their kids, so fvck 'em...

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The idea of a "perfect family" varies by both geography and culture. In the US, the ideal is two college-educated parents in their mid 20's that will raise the kid mostly by themselves, with perhaps some help from the grandparents or Conchita, la nana.
The concept in the DR certainly varies by social class, but it is different. Grandparents have been the principle caregivers to children pretty much since we came down from the trees and out of the caves. The American attitude of a perfect family is based on gender equality and maximum productivity in the workplace. I do not think that is the major idea in the RD

Social customs usually have a practical side that those who follow them do not always realize. Why does Ken need to give Barbie an engagement ring of one caret or more equal to three months' salary? To prove that he has either (1) lots of disposable income or (2) credit to p?ss away on impractictical items that will keep the economy growing. Basically, it is the same logic that causes the Masai warrior to pay four head of cattle to the father in law.
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What is the primary form of birth control? Don't women just take the pill? Are barrier methods such as diaphragm used? How about that shot that lasts for months? Birth control isn't somethin I've focused on through the years.

Are condoms used as primary birth control?
 
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It's "Aguaita" ah-WHY-tah - probably after the cibae?o exclamation. One of those words that is obsolete in Spain and mainstream Spanish but is still in use here.

...aguaita es una palabra muy castellana, del verbo aguaitar, de guaita que significa centinela. Aguaitar es mirar, ver, acechar, vigilar, cuidar, espiar. Y, para que te sorprendas m?s, te informo que guaita es palabra castellana pariente de guachim?n o Watchman cuya funci?n es observar, vigilar, cuidar...

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I watched this scenario play out with my niece about 4+ years ago. I do not know who was more excited about the baby, my niece, or her mother ( my SIL). In the end my niece now lives in the US with her father and the child who is now 4 lives with my SIL here in the Dominican. While he knows (I think) my niece is his "mother", the real mother to him in his mind is my SIL. My SIL is an educated known OBGYN in her area so it was surprising in a way that my niece turned up pregnant. But there were signs. It can happen in the best of families and is accepted. Just not a big deal here in the Dominican.
 
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The kid has a US Passport and prob a Soc Sec card. That's like winning the lottery.

Was the mother under 18 when she got pregnant? That could have some legal issues for the father back in the US depending on his age and what state he's from..
 

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I watched this scenario play out with my niece about 4+ years ago. I do not know who was more excited about the baby, my niece, or her mother ( my SIL). In the end my niece now lives in the US with her father and the child who is now 4 lives with my SIL here in the Dominican. While he knows (I think) my niece is his "mother", the real mother to him in his mind is my SIL. My SIL is an educated known OBGYN in her area so it was surprising in a way that my niece turned up pregnant. But there were signs. It can happen in the best of families and is accepted. Just not a big deal here in the Dominican.

I 've seen the scenario played a few times. The parents are usually unhappy about having an under aged and unmarried daughter pregnant but they accept the reality and accept the child without disowning their daughter. In the past this would not be true in most cases. My wife's family shortly after I met her had one of her cousin's daughter get pregnant at age sixteen- the mother was so hard on her daughter that she committed suicide.
 

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While at the beginning the family was not "thrilled" eventually they were all excited about the baby. The father of the child lives here in the Dominican and I think he has 3 other kids with different mothers. My niece was 16 and I think he was 18 when this happened. He does not see the child but I think his family does. After the child turned 1 my niece left for the US (her father obtained US residency for her,,long story). I think her plan is to keep working and going to school in the US and eventually bring the child to the US. We will see because my SIL basically considers the child hers as opposed to just being the "grandmother". I remember my FIL being quite upset but as you stated Bob his reply was more or less what are you going to do, what is done is done. My niece liked the idea of having a baby and how cute it would be however what she failed to realize was the responsibility of raising a child when you are still a child yourself. I always tell my niece how lucky she is to be in a situation where the child is being well taken care of while she is off in the US.
 

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The kid has a US Passport and prob a Soc Sec card. That's like winning the lottery.

Was the mother under 18 when she got pregnant? That could have some legal issues for the father back in the US depending on his age and what state he's from..

i did not quite follow which "kid" this referred to.. but in order to get a US passport for a child born out of wedlock (such an interesting term, no? ), a FATHER must agree to support the child til the age of 18 Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad
 
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i did not quite follow which "kid" this referred to.. but in order to get a US passport for a child born out of wedlock (such an interesting term, no? ), a FATHER must agree to support the child til the age of 18 Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad

Really? That sucks.. I wonder if the father can arrange a trust in case of death. Marriage for your kids.. that's total BS. I recall there was a case like that in Guam about some tycoon that fathered a child when he was on vacation in the Philipines then died in a plane crash. The kid ended up with a fortune after they did DNA, but I guess not US citizenship.
 

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i did not quite follow which "kid" this referred to.. but in order to get a US passport for a child born out of wedlock (such an interesting term, no? ), a FATHER must agree to support the child til the age of 18 Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad

Really? Even if on the Birth certificate, has gone through the passport process. This seems very odd that paternity of a child can be derived via bank balance rather than DNA. Or even more surprisingly that right of desent is not recognized. I'm very surprised iv this is true, infact I'd question a mix up of understanding.
 
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Really? That sucks.. I wonder if the father can arrange a trust in case of death. Marriage for your kids.. that's total BS. I recall there was a case like that in Guam about some tycoon that fathered a child when he was on vacation in the Philipines then died in a plane crash. The kid ended up with a fortune after they did DNA, but I guess not US citizenship.

Yea, the agreement for financial support is cool. But they get you with that "legitimated". Thats that BS.

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I 've seen the scenario played a few times. The parents are usually unhappy about having an under aged and unmarried daughter pregnant but they accept the reality and accept the child without disowning their daughter. In the past this would not be true in most cases. My wife's family shortly after I met her had one of her cousin's daughter get pregnant at age sixteen- the mother was so hard on her daughter that she committed suicide.

My cousin was kicked out of her house after getting pregnant. The dad forbade everyone in the household to reach out to her. The mother and sisters didn't stop. Only after the baby was born, and multiple intents from intermediaries, she and he dad got things sorted out.

I had a classmate who was kicked out of school. In my school, a girl who ran away with ther boyfriend or got pregnant was not allowed to come back. I don't know if nun schools still have these policies.

Getting pregnant usually meant negativity and a big change of lifestyle: going from a nice school to a liceo, hardships, moving out of town, gossip, rejection from your family, shame on your family, etc. Especially in small towns.

Now a pregnant teen can pretty much go on with her life without the baby meaning it's ruined or that you're going to stop doing whatever you were doing before the pregnancy.
 
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