Want to open a performing arts and science boarding school

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and some of them will want to bring their wives on board... management ,,, owners....etc...

Well that happens in the U.S. As well...but there are bylaws that say you and your spouse can't be employed in the same building or section....not that it will be one of our bylaws but being apart of this team won't be so easy as bribes and who you know, there will be some defined processes on getting on the team......just because we want to be apart of the DR community doesn't mean we have to sell our souls or give up our moral and ethics to make a dollar. Private Schools stay open because parents believe in the education, vision and mission....a great school will have those beliefs engrained in everyone employed and volunteering in that school.. I worked with the Japanese for two years and they were extremely good at believing in their methods and teaching others how to believe in their business model. They took suggestions but you weren't even allowed to suggest until you mastered their way first.....to Americans it can be a bit military mentality but those who wanted to grow and be exceptional at all aspects of business stuck it out and promoted the business like non other not just what the businesses was selling but the drive,discipline and excitement of success and growth. The men and women founders of this proposed school are mothers and fathers as well and are surely not looking for notoriety to keep the doors open...don't get me wrong it would be great to have Dominican/ Americans or what ever mixture Actors, singers and musicians support our school but it will be because it's worth supporting not because Jennifer Lopez is on the board!
 
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I don't want to rain on your parade.. since there are few enough people who have a CALL to do something wonderful..

so just to say that Dance.. seems one of the arts which is very well taught here. I was stunned with the perfomance that I saw of the https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ballet-Nacional-Dominicano/328815194921

So perhaps you will need to hook up with those who are already teaching here? Academia Ballet Concierto

since you stated, I think, that you have the PROPERTY.. and that you want to build there. Perhaps parts of your dream are already in place?

As others have said, a boarding school may not be the easiest plan but a SUMMER camp program - particularly if you are in the mountains (did I get the impression you are in Jarabacoa?).. so .. THAT.. Summer programs.. that would be great.

There is also a huge push here for the Film industry. I think that you mentioned that? DGCINE and Escuela de cine de la UASD* es laboratorio de cineastas ... (I am assuming that you are bilingual? yes?)

From what I have seen of the DR movies.,, not a lot.. but they do produce a lot.. but just from a personal point of view they need help on screen writing, story boarding,.. that back bone. They seem just brilliant on cinematography.. and do, of course, focus on having to have the high end equipment. (just as many of the musicians insist on being amplified when they really should not be).

So there is a big interest there - in film, and probably even in studying film, as an art form, with imported faculty.

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Thanks so much for the awesome links and yes Dance music and art is really something to be impressed with, my husbands family has land in cinnamon, and I think it's called the black lagoon In English but it's in the agricultural parts of DR...it's an option but we are also looking for the best spot besides Santo Domingo to set up shop.

Film will 110% be apart of the arts program, and children will be learning all aspects of the business of film, it would be awesome if DR could become the " India" of the Caribbean....pumping out block buster hits and having an international following....even I'm surprised how many people love " Bollywood" movies 3 hours of action packed, love and dancing is exhausting I'm sure lol

The boarding part of the school we may only offer to children out side of DR......I have taken the DR1 advice to the founders and they agreed it could be a cultural thing....we want as many locals to attend our school as possible and not just the rich kids...im going to check out these links it's crazy they don't just pop up when I google search these things but then again Google has been having big issues with their analytics.
 
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the gifted members of the underprivileged class do not get recognized easily, because they go to poor schools, with poor teachers, wherein talent is not easily recognized. in Jamaica, and other british islands, the poorest of the poor can go to schools like these, and they will receive the accolades and support they deserve


Immaculate Conception High School: Home

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So in Jamaica it's grants and scholarships as well ...sponsorships? This school looks like it's got it stuff together and the history is awesome to read.
 

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Bunch of idiotic posts removed, one well known poster banned from the board.

Great topic, let's keep it that way by staying on topic, that applies to everyone.

Carry on...
 
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If one had several dozen multimillionaire "angels" this could work. Altos de Chavon had big bucks Gulf and Western behind it.
Probably even North Dakota or Puerto Rico would be a better place to try this.
I noticed many of the big private schools in DR has religious/ faith based backing.....( Golf as in the oil company and western?)
 
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The hard sell is a combination of a niche market and the boarding. As others have pointed out, it will be a challenge overcome the "closeness" of families here. What size of school and enrollment would you need to be profitable?

This is being worked out right now, it's the first 5 years of our plan so it won't be the same every year....some schools started with 100 and grew from there, my sons public school has 456 children whole but there are 27 children in his classroom....that is certainly not our goal 7:1 or 8:2 ratio is what we aim for I think even 10:1 is pushing but it's still better than 27:1. Then as mentioned before its charging the right amount to have the right mixture of children in our school 160,000RD is the top of what one school charges not sure what all that pays for but in some situations such as music,film and dance equipment is very expensive...point shoes cost around $65 U.S. Dollars and last 3-4 days for a semi- professional ballerina....professionals point shoes last a day! So imagine 7 days a week 1 pair of point shoes a day at $65 a pair! Thank goodness instruments don't need replacing as much ☺️ School books, 3 meals a day and sports clubs the U.S. Least amount is 20,000 a year and it goes to around 60,000 after that the parents are in a different income bracket and shell out up to 90,000 a year for high school private without boarding ....so we have been doing a large amount of research on this very topic of what to charge.
 

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So in Jamaica it's grants and scholarships as well ...sponsorships? This school looks like it's got it stuff together and the history is awesome to read.

Jamaica is crawling with schools like those. in order to get into those schools, there is an examination called the Common Entrance, which is taken by all kids 10 to 11 years of age. you choose two schools you would like to attend, in order of preference. as long as your final marks are high enough, you can go to any school you choose. there are scholarships given by the Ministry of Education for the kids with the best test scores. some are just tuition scholarships, others are full scholarships which even pay for kids to attend boarding school.
 
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Boarding in Altos de Chavon was one of the challenges of education there, with the students maturing from having to share with dorm companions in small studios. The school this year decided to only offer boarding to students of plastic arts. The fashion and graphic arts (communication) sections have been moved to Santo Domingo. This is the last year when fashion, plastic arts and communication students will be living together at the dorm facilities in La Romana. In the words of Dominique Bluhdorn, it was either make the move to be closer to the clients for the students, or close. They chose to split the school for the students starting this fall. They needed more students and the students were in Santo Domingo.[/QUOTE]

Correct me if I'm wrong this school is connected to Pearson in NYC......I suppose if a student travel from NY they would want to be in the heart of DR...although the school is beautiful and is set in a scenic area, either way this is a good scenario to study in business, sounds like they grew out of the area they started in and what ever worked 30 years ago isn't working now...I'll certainly be keeping my ear to the ground about the success of the move!
 

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Boarding in Altos de Chavon was one of the challenges of education there, with the students maturing from having to share with dorm companions in small studios. The school this year decided to only offer boarding to students of plastic arts. The fashion and graphic arts (communication) sections have been moved to Santo Domingo. This is the last year when fashion, plastic arts and communication students will be living together at the dorm facilities in La Romana. In the words of Dominique Bluhdorn, it was either make the move to be closer to the clients for the students, or close. They chose to split the school for the students starting this fall. They needed more students and the students were in Santo Domingo.

Correct me if I'm wrong this school is connected to Pearson in NYC......I suppose if a student travel from NY they would want to be in the heart of DR...although the school is beautiful and is set in a scenic area, either way this is a good scenario to study in business, sounds like they grew out of the area they started in and what ever worked 30 years ago isn't working now...I'll certainly be keeping my ear to the ground about the success of the move![/QUOTE]

What happened was that the boarding aspect failed to attract enough students and they moved to the big city to attract more students who could commute to school.
 

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What happened was that the boarding aspect failed to attract enough students and they moved to the big city to attract more students who could commute to school.

I thought the OP main goal was to attract overseas students with a small mix of locals ? Then the boarding aspect would make sense (and I am sure if it becomes successful with boarding students, upper middle class local kids may follow).
 

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ANYONE who comes to the DR to start a business to live on had better bring 2 years survival money with them.
No one seems to want to "Rain On Your Parade", but I WILL!
"R U NUTS"????????
This place will eat you alive, then spit out your bones!
You idea is terrible!!!!
It will NEVER WORK!!!!!!!!
As I ALWAYS say,...."Best way to leave the DR with a million dollars??????
Bring 2 million dollars!!!!!!


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ANYONE who comes to the DR to start a business to live on had better bring 2 years survival money with them.
No one seems to want to "Rain On Your Parade", but I WILL!
"R U NUTS"????????
This place will eat you alive, then spit out your bones!
You idea is terrible!!!!
It will NEVER WORK!!!!!!!!
As I ALWAYS say,...."Best way to leave the DR with a million dollars??????
Bring 2 million dollars!!!!!!


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now that you have been so emphatic in your discouragement, maybe you would take the time out to state your reasons why the idea is bad, and why it will not work.

there are people who have come to this country, started businesses, and made money. the problem with gringos is that they all want to start a restaurant, a pizza shop, or a bar. someone with the idea to think outside the box, who has experience in their chosen field, and who takes the time out to understand the demographics and market, has a more than even chance of succeeding.
 
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Perhaps someone needs to start a ballet shoe manufacturing company in the DR.Point shoes are made of cloth and glue, so there ought to be a way to make them for half of the $65 quoted.
 

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Perhaps someone needs to start a ballet shoe manufacturing company in the DR.Point shoes are made of cloth and glue, so there ought to be a way to make them for half of the $65 quoted.

I was going to suggest the same thing. That sounds like a place where the business is.
 

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now that you have been so emphatic in your discouragement, maybe you would take the time out to state your reasons why the idea is bad, and why it will not work.

there are people who have come to this country, started businesses, and made money. the problem with gringos is that they all want to start a restaurant, a pizza shop, or a bar. someone with the idea to think outside the box, who has experience in their chosen field, and who takes the time out to understand the demographics and market, has a more than even chance of succeeding.

You should add that some of the risks can come in forms that are not as easily anticipated, avoided or protected against. Land, buildings, lawyers, propinas, ... .
 

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Worthless post until you back it up with actual facts and reasons.

Well, from a narrow point of view it may be of less value. The value comes from the OP asking why not you.

You dismissive style diminishes the interactions between posters and adds no value. Maybe suggesting some possible unforeseeable roadblocks will help; you certainly have the experiences. Let's leave it to this op to find her way and develop interactions.

We have more than one person her that contribute words but no value ever. Others who need to be prodded and some that won't shut-up.

I suggest that encouraging the desired behavior can be done by example!
 

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Well, from a narrow point of view it may be of less value. The value comes from the OP asking why not you.

You dismissive style diminishes the interactions between posters and adds no value. Maybe suggesting some possible unforeseeable roadblocks will help; you certainly have the experiences. Let's leave it to this op to find her way and develop interactions.

We have more than one person her that contribute words but no value ever. Others who need to be prodded and some that won't shut-up.

I suggest that encouraging the desired behavior can be done by example!

Now go back and read my post, quote and all.

Also...

You dismissive style diminishes the interactions between posters and adds no value.
Of course you're entitled to your opinion, that is until it adds no value and your "Post" button no longer appears to work.

I suggest that encouraging the desired behavior can be done by example!
You mean like 19,500 posts and 15+ yrs?

Now run along...
 
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