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The future of Sosua
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ljmesg
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SHR is nice. My comments were merely about values. If there was a community I would buy in it would be SHR first. Yes, there is little sheen on the place but it is what it is. Prices are being upheld because in reality, very few are actually a sellers. They are vacant forgotten home carriers....not sellers. The prices never change.please come over and let me show you my homeand my brothers
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lifeisgreat
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Next level playing out...they mean business this time...
Alain Rodríguez, Attorney General of the Republic, and the mayor of the municipality of Sosúa, Ilana Neumann held a meeting in the chapter hall of the City Hall with the merchants of Pedro Clisante Street in an effort to work for a more organized city.
Through municipal resolution all businesses linked to beverages such as bars and clubs were granted a period of more than one year which expired several months ago, for this reason the mayor announced on Friday that they will execute the resolution which limits the entire center of Batey Sosúa of this type of business that primarily serve as a meeting point for prostitution.
Mayor Ilana Neumann made the announcement to the owners of the Pedro Clisante street businesses in the presence of the Attorney General of the Republic, Jean Alain Rodríguez and other important authorities of the province of Puerto Plata, also insisting that it is not intended to harm, but they are regulatory measures in search of rescuing some areas of the tourism sector for all the Sosua families.
The business owners of Pedro Clisante Street and other surrounding streets have the opportunity to move to a permitted area or exchange their commercial activity for another that does not conflict with regulations.
The clubs, discos, and late night establishments were instructed to relocate down towards Playa Chiquita last year. The city gave them one year to relocate and so far, none have moved. This is all part of the city’s initiative to reduce the amount of prostitution downtown.
Alain Rodríguez, Attorney General of the Republic, and the mayor of the municipality of Sosúa, Ilana Neumann held a meeting in the chapter hall of the City Hall with the merchants of Pedro Clisante Street in an effort to work for a more organized city.
Through municipal resolution all businesses linked to beverages such as bars and clubs were granted a period of more than one year which expired several months ago, for this reason the mayor announced on Friday that they will execute the resolution which limits the entire center of Batey Sosúa of this type of business that primarily serve as a meeting point for prostitution.
Mayor Ilana Neumann made the announcement to the owners of the Pedro Clisante street businesses in the presence of the Attorney General of the Republic, Jean Alain Rodríguez and other important authorities of the province of Puerto Plata, also insisting that it is not intended to harm, but they are regulatory measures in search of rescuing some areas of the tourism sector for all the Sosua families.
The business owners of Pedro Clisante Street and other surrounding streets have the opportunity to move to a permitted area or exchange their commercial activity for another that does not conflict with regulations.
The clubs, discos, and late night establishments were instructed to relocate down towards Playa Chiquita last year. The city gave them one year to relocate and so far, none have moved. This is all part of the city’s initiative to reduce the amount of prostitution downtown.
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cavok
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cobraboy
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They were given a "Get Out of Jail Free" card.
Why didn't they move?
I thought folks wanted a Red Light District away from the current area.
Why didn't they move?
I thought folks wanted a Red Light District away from the current area.
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jd_mine
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Maybe they can't afford to?
Maybe they did not believe the government?
Lots of reasons...
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drstock
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Didn't somebody try to start building a mall type place near Playa Chiquita, specifically for housing these businesses, and was prevented from doing so?
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chico bill
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As long as the fat hookers wearing ill-fitting spandex quit harassing tourists or residents and clogging the streets, I'm OK with the orders to move.
But if it means Sosua becomes nothing but Chinese Pica Pollo shops or bottom end Chinese variety stores I prefer the tacky hookers.
The Chinese crap and warmed over food is the only thing tackier than old overweight hookers.
But if it means Sosua becomes nothing but Chinese Pica Pollo shops or bottom end Chinese variety stores I prefer the tacky hookers.
The Chinese crap and warmed over food is the only thing tackier than old overweight hookers.
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ctrob
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Yup, all of that. It'll all play out at the last minute. I feel sorry for business owners that have to up and move. Or change who they allow on premises. There's no such thing as a "grandfather" clause here, that would protect ones investment. I'm guessing they're going to start shutting a few places down. They'll have to quickly change what they're doing and who they're allowing in....or get outta town.
On the other hand, it's inevitable.
Think about it, had they enacted zoning regs 10 years ago, we wouldn't be talking about this now. It'd be all over. Slowly and orderly.
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Ecoman1949
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I don’t have a problem wading through the ladies on PC street. Some of them have a great sense of humour and good hearts. Last March, my buddy and I drank a bit too much at the St. Pats celebration at Finn McCools. My buddy had an aneurysm a few years ago and his stability is affected in the heat. Add a snootful of beer and the problem gets worse. Two ladies held him up and helped me get him to the Texaco station where we poured him into a publico. God bless them, one and all.
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lifeisgreat
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windeguy
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Any doubt left about the intent of the government on Sosua's future?
Is there anyone who read the report on the recent meeting of the Attorney General of the Dominican Republic and Ilana Neumann, the mayor of the municipality of Sosúa about the intentention regarding prostitution in Sosua?
Here it is again in different wording from Sosua news:
Is there anyone who read the report on the recent meeting of the Attorney General of the Dominican Republic and Ilana Neumann, the mayor of the municipality of Sosúa about the intentention regarding prostitution in Sosua?
Here it is again in different wording from Sosua news:
https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php
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windeguy
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Worst timing of a bar launch ever?
Time will tell, but based upon "turning the bars into restaurants or relocating away from that area theme"reiterated recently regarding a section of Pedro Clisante, this could be the most ill timed launch of a bar ever in Sosua:
https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php
And a place set up for live music of all things. Oh well, we can only see how the government treats this.
Time will tell, but based upon "turning the bars into restaurants or relocating away from that area theme"reiterated recently regarding a section of Pedro Clisante, this could be the most ill timed launch of a bar ever in Sosua:
https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php
And a place set up for live music of all things. Oh well, we can only see how the government treats this.
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lifeisgreat
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Cdn_Gringo
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You touched on the main problem - Zoning. While it is common practice to ignore regulations that get in the way, limiting the number of speakeasy establishments that can open in that central block is a nobrainer.
But with no plan and no real estate for the current errant businesses to relocate to in the preferred area of town, about all the Mayor can do is shutter existing establishments that don't pass muster. There are clearly too many outlets focusing on alcohol sales that located there because that's where the pros are, or perhaps the ladies ply their trade in this spot because that's where the bars are - chicken or the egg, and it doesn't really matter in the end which came first.
That entire block needs to be redeveloped.
1) Decide how many "classy" cafes and cerveza fria establishments will be permitted
2) Decide who will get a license to operate these establishments
3) Have a city planner redesign the block to include mixed use real estate - offices, restaurants, shops, apartments
4) Somehow fund the redevelopment
5) Kick everything else out of the area - eminent domain
6) Tear down everything that isn't staying - the haphazard current appearance of the block reminds me of a shanty town
7) Rebuild the block with a modern Caribbean flare, with trees, sidewalks and a variety of goods and services for locals and tourists alike
This current emphasis of spiffing up the place is going to be yet another disaster. The city knows it doesn't want bars and ladies of the night on the block but there seems to be no intention of providing space for alternative and more appealing businesses to make use of. A lawyer, doctor, dentist isn't gong to set up an office in an old disco and neither will anyone else where the space is flanked by hole-in-the-wall eateries. Quality merchants and service providers will need to be enticed to relocate to the core. New buildings need to go up instead of sideways making use of the 3 - 5 (whatever it is) floors allowed. You want people living there and doing their daily commerce there. You want tour providers to set up their offices there eventually (when their are tourists of course), you might want a movie theater or another mini grocery store or get Freddy's off the highway and into this space. Make that section of PC pedestrian only. There needs to be entertainment options for the nighttime that doesn't involve drinking and carousing. A quality jeweler, eye wear place, Dominican arts & crafts emporium etc. Turn the block into something useful rather than a left turn circuit for drunks.
Currently, there is no real reason to go to that block if one is not going to EPS, doesn't wish to drink and consume bar fare type food or look for a date. Nick needs a bigger place anyways.
But with no plan and no real estate for the current errant businesses to relocate to in the preferred area of town, about all the Mayor can do is shutter existing establishments that don't pass muster. There are clearly too many outlets focusing on alcohol sales that located there because that's where the pros are, or perhaps the ladies ply their trade in this spot because that's where the bars are - chicken or the egg, and it doesn't really matter in the end which came first.
That entire block needs to be redeveloped.
1) Decide how many "classy" cafes and cerveza fria establishments will be permitted
2) Decide who will get a license to operate these establishments
3) Have a city planner redesign the block to include mixed use real estate - offices, restaurants, shops, apartments
4) Somehow fund the redevelopment
5) Kick everything else out of the area - eminent domain
6) Tear down everything that isn't staying - the haphazard current appearance of the block reminds me of a shanty town
7) Rebuild the block with a modern Caribbean flare, with trees, sidewalks and a variety of goods and services for locals and tourists alike
This current emphasis of spiffing up the place is going to be yet another disaster. The city knows it doesn't want bars and ladies of the night on the block but there seems to be no intention of providing space for alternative and more appealing businesses to make use of. A lawyer, doctor, dentist isn't gong to set up an office in an old disco and neither will anyone else where the space is flanked by hole-in-the-wall eateries. Quality merchants and service providers will need to be enticed to relocate to the core. New buildings need to go up instead of sideways making use of the 3 - 5 (whatever it is) floors allowed. You want people living there and doing their daily commerce there. You want tour providers to set up their offices there eventually (when their are tourists of course), you might want a movie theater or another mini grocery store or get Freddy's off the highway and into this space. Make that section of PC pedestrian only. There needs to be entertainment options for the nighttime that doesn't involve drinking and carousing. A quality jeweler, eye wear place, Dominican arts & crafts emporium etc. Turn the block into something useful rather than a left turn circuit for drunks.
Currently, there is no real reason to go to that block if one is not going to EPS, doesn't wish to drink and consume bar fare type food or look for a date. Nick needs a bigger place anyways.
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zoomzx11
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Toss up...both make you puke
Why look at a thing that makes you nauseated ?
Then come here and write about it!
Most avoid nausea.
I have lived in Sosua a long time and not one of the working girls ever harassed me.
They certainly say hello but a smile back and a wave of my hand and they see I am married and not shopping.
You happen to be a married man with a wife who cooks? No need to eat Chinese Pica Pollo.
Perhaps you appear to be shopping?
Maybe you look like a john?
The working girls have built in radar for men who are "interested".
Possibly you are shopping but not for this particular girl.
It ok and perfectly legal but your complaints tell a lot about you.
There are plenty of fat old men with skinny legs in ill fitting shorts for the overweight girls.
Take a look at some of the men if you want to puke as you so delicately phrase it.
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zoomzx11
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Nice story. Thanks for putting it up.
The working girls are victimized enough.
Good people are everywhere is you look.
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Big
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I agree with you, Never did understand why men have anger towards these woman. Should you encounter one a simple "no gracias" will send them on their way. They don't want to waste their time on a man that is not interested in spending cash
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Uzin
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Well, the idea is those that are not restaurant should move, many of the ones that are now restaurants are the main chica hang-out, so this is just an ill-thought useless approach. From what I have seen, they really don't want or can't do anything about the situation in Sosua, but want to pretend that they are doing something (look at the police chasing girls the last 10 years... !). All to keep face and keep their jobs and say we are on it.... !
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