Merengue Bar and disco Clásicos closed

[drstock]

I don't know what roads you speak of, guess they also fixed the sewage system in your part of town as well so after a rain the smell doesn't knock you off a Moto. My assessments have been spot on for a decade, but hey if you want to pump up the town that's cool with me.

It looks as if they're finally doing the sidewalk/pavement along the main road behind the beach. Most of the rest of the town's sidewalks remain similar to the surface of the moon.

 

[ramesses]

Perhaps you and Big can open up a drinking establishment serving "philly" cheesesteaks and chips in a paper sack, for the sorts that believe in the success of this sort of venture.

So, you don't believe in small business. I tend to resect a person who has started his/her own business and works hard to make it successful. It's not an easy thing to do.

 

[ramesses]

It looks as if they're finally doing the sidewalk/pavement along the main road behind the beach. Most of the rest of the town's sidewalks remain similar to the surface of the moon.

This is what I have been saying. This administration works on the big things but ignores the smaller basics.

It's going to be quite a shock for these high end travellers when they leave the hotel only to find a empty rundown town with nothing to do.

 

[Ecoman1949]

It's great how the government is going to shut down those small local businesses so that large foreign companies can make their move in.

I imagine big business can grease more palms with larger amounts of money. The Lifestyles fiasco in Cabarete being the latest example.

 

[chico bill]

This is what I have been saying. This administration works on the big things but ignores the smaller basics.

It's going to be quite a shock for these high end travellers when they leave the hotel only to find a empty rundown town with nothing to do.

Instead of trying to walk through overweight hookers and the overweight cigar-chomping horny middle aged men loitering on the sidewalk acting like Don Juans ?

I'll take the more empty sidewalks and believe me they will not be empty, if those new hotels fill up.

 

[singletravel]

I go to the family gym every day, noticed construction has begun again behind Hi_Caribe. Hmmmm, looks like the Anvee Hotel is going to be a busy place and the family gym is now expanding their bar (disco), closed part of the gym for bar expansion.

Times are changing .....

 

[windeguy]

It looks as if they're finally doing the sidewalk/pavement along the main road behind the beach. Most of the rest of the town's sidewalks remain similar to the surface of the moon.

The Elections are soon. No surprise this happens now.

 

[windeguy]

I imagine big business can grease more palms with larger amounts of money. The Lifestyles fiasco in Cabarete being the latest example.

You imagine correctly.

 

[Caonabo]

You may enjoy socializing with the x-pats that wear Crocs, sleeveless shirts and swim trunks slumped over their beer at one of those oh so trendy joints in Sosua, I assure you it ain't for moi. Maybe you all can discuss million dollar Sosua deals not worrying about spilling beer suds on your elegant croc evening wear

1. I have never owned a pair of Crocs, but I have always had a fine pair of chancletas within reach my entire lifetime.
2. I must admit to a sleeveless shirt period of my life, but that was back in the early 1980's. Oh, what a time it was.
3. Swim trunks are never to be worn in public, and are optional at my residential properties.
4. Aside from my university days, I have never been a huge partaker in beers, stouts, or ales. My preference leans towards fine wines, rums, and the occasional Vesper Martini for special events.

 

[Caonabo]

So, you don't believe in small business. I tend to resect a person who has started his/her own business and works hard to make it successful. It's not an easy thing to do.

I believe in smart business.
I, as well, admire and respect those who start their own business and work hard to make it successful, but of course it needs to be done with vision, smarts and focus. I have invested, and financially backed many entrepreneurs in their endeavors.
There are times in life where locales are regenerated by an influx of small businesses. There are other times when these plans/investments fall flat do to lack of proper planning, or the existence of a larger entity at hand.
In this instance, small business will do absolutely nothing for this locale....right now.
Perhaps in the future, following the addition of larger entities, smaller undertakings or ventures may be able to thrive on the fringes.

 

[frank12]

So, you don't believe in small business. I tend to resect a person who has started his/her own business and works hard to make it successful. It's not an easy thing to do.

It's a bizarre psychologically when a person wants to see someone fail. It says a lot about a person's personality.

Big Frank has left the island and gone back home to Philadelphia to be with his family. He's 76yrs old. He lived on the north coast, and had businesses on the north coast, since 2001. He had his success and good run. He a successful Irish pub/restaurant for 17yrs on the beach. I think, by anyone's definition, it was a good 17yrs run of owning and operating a bar/restaurant on the beach.

Unfortunately, he didn't make the bar/restaurant work in Sosua...but who does? A few make it, but even the ones that do, usually only manage to survive on a thin shoe string that often dips in the red during the low season, before swinging back up in the high season. It's an ebb and flow. Always has been. Even more so today now that things have mostly moved down south to Punta Cana.

When I first started at O'Shay's in 2007, you couldn't get a seat at the bar during football games. There was virtually no competition. No business wanted to shell out $100 a month per receiver (you needed at least 4 to 5 of them) to have the DirectTV NFL package. O'Shay's was the only place you could go to watch your favorite college or NFL team play. We could get 95% of all games. We also had the Pay Per View fights and other big sporting events.

And then the internet came along, and suddenly--almost overnight--anyone could "tap" into whatever sporting even was taking place around the world and show it for free.

In Cabarete, a few places sprung up and started showing sports for free (They grabbed it from the internet) and were giving away beer and drinks away almost for free. These places attracted crowds of expats who bounced from happy hour to happy hour, trying to score the cheapest beer and drink on beach. Nothing wrong with that. That's economics 101.

It never bothered Big Frank that people wanted to save money and get cheaper drinks. What bothered Big Frank was the amount of people walking across the road, or down the beach, buying their beers or drinks and then coming back into O'Shay's to watch Pay-Per-View or NFL ticket games simply because the other places couldn't get their internet to stream smoothly.

Uber & Lyft have a similar business concept where they move into a market, and aggressively undercut the competition.


A lot of businesses on the beach have failed over the years as a result of trying to undercut and sell beer and drinks for next to nothing. It's hard to pay wages, insurance, electricity, generator maintenance, vacation pay, maternity pay, taxes, etc. while selling a beer for $15 pesos above cost. A lot of people found out the hard way and are now closed.


Big Frank sold his business at the right time. The market was being saturated with business almost giving beer & drinks away for free at Happy Hour.


I can say this about Big Frank and Rocky: both men always wished the best for all businesses around them. They understood that in order to attract more tourists and more customers, you need everyone around you thriving. Having a street where everyone is doing good attracts more people to your area. The last thing you want is businesses closing all around you. People want to be in an area where they can easily hop from place to place and experience different diversity and different niches.

Whenever you hear someone wishing or hoping for someone else's failure, you need to look at the psychology behind that wish. That's not a good person.

 

[chico bill]

It's a bizarre psychologically when a person wants to see someone fail. It says a lot about a person's personality.

Big Frank has left the island and gone back home to Philadelphia to be with his family. He's 76yrs old. He lived on the north coast, and had businesses on the north coast, since 2001. He had his success and good run. He a successful Irish pub/restaurant for 17yrs on the beach. I think, by anyone's definition, it was a good 17yrs run of owning and operating a bar/restaurant on the beach.

Unfortunately, he didn't make the bar/restaurant work in Sosua...but who does? A few make it, but even the ones that do, usually only manage to survive on a thin shoe string that often dips in the red during the low season, before swinging back up in the high season. It's an ebb and flow. Always has been. Even more so today now that things have mostly moved down south to Punta Cana.

When I first started at O'Shay's in 2007, you couldn't get a seat at the bar during football games. There was virtually no competition. No business wanted to shell out $100 a month per receiver (you needed at least 4 to 5 of them) to have the DirectTV NFL package. O'Shay's was the only place you could go to watch your favorite college or NFL team play. We could get 95% of all games. We also had the Pay Per View fights and other big sporting events.

And then the internet came along, and suddenly--almost overnight--anyone could "tap" into whatever sporting even was taking place around the world and show it for free.

In Cabarete, a few places sprung up and started showing sports for free (They grabbed it from the internet) and were giving away beer and drinks away almost for free. These places attracted crowds of expats who bounced from happy hour to happy hour, trying to score the cheapest beer and drink on beach. Nothing wrong with that. That's economics 101.

It never bothered Big Frank that people wanted to save money and get cheaper drinks. What bothered Big Frank was the amount of people walking across the road, or down the beach, buying their beers or drinks and then coming back into O'Shay's to watch Pay-Per-View or NFL ticket games simply because the other places couldn't get their internet to stream smoothly.

Uber & Lyft have a similar business concept where they move into a market, and aggressively undercut the competition.


A lot of businesses on the beach have failed over the years as a result of trying to undercut and sell beer and drinks for next to nothing. It's hard to pay wages, insurance, electricity, generator maintenance, vacation pay, maternity pay, taxes, etc. while selling a beer for $15 pesos above cost. A lot of people found out the hard way and are now closed.


Big Frank sold his business at the right time. The market was being saturated with business almost giving beer & drinks away for free at Happy Hour.


I can say this about Big Frank and Rocky: both men always wished the best for all businesses around them. They understood that in order to attract more tourists and more customers, you need everyone around you thriving. Having a street where everyone is doing good attracts more people to your area. The last thing you want is businesses closing all around you. People want to be in an area where they can easily hop from place to place and experience different diversity and different niches.

Whenever you hear someone wishing or hoping for someone else's failure, you need to look at the psychology behind that wish. That's not a good person.

Boy has your tune changed. Just a couple months ago you were accusing Frank of being a swindler and doing business in bad faith.
I'm sure he read your posts and knows what real friends you really are now!

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[SKY]

Boy has your tune changed. Just a couple months ago you were accusing Frank of being a swindler and doing business in bad faith.
I'm sure he read your posts and knows what real friends you really are now!

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I never saw Frank12 post that language about Big Frank. All of the problems Big Frank had was because of actions of his attorney, none of his own doing. That is what happened here anyway.

 

[chico bill]

I never saw Frank12 post that language about Big Frank. All of the problems Big Frank had was because of actions of his attorney, none of his own doing. That is what happened here anyway.

Well go back and read his posts about Frank and his crooked lawyers and business practices

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[SKY]

Well go back and read his posts about Frank and his crooked lawyers and business practices

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Maybe you have the time to dig through old posts, but I do not. You claim it so you put some up yourself. Waiting patiently.....................

 

[chico bill]

Maybe you have the time to dig through old posts, but I do not. You claim it so you put some up yourself. Waiting patiently.....................

Wait... .... .... Still waiting?

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[SKY]

If I see nothing, it means there is nothing. So move on....................

 

[windeguy]

The future of Sosua is tied to residential real estate growth - not prostitution

An article I could have written after watching what the has been going on here:


CLOSED: Classicos and Merengue bar downtown Sosua.
September 14, 2019
Facebook, twitter, the message boards and WhatsApp all started blowing up around 7pm last night. This is the biggest news to hit town since Rumbas closed.

Classicos and Merengue bar both shut their doors, permanently.

Over one year ago the city of Sosua passed a resolution mandating that the downtown night clubs either change their business models or relocate out of the downtown district. The business owners were provided a grace period of twelve months to conform. The ordinance was fully enacted this week and the days of downtown Sosua essentially operating as one gigantic brothel seem to be over.

The shift from sex tourism to a family friendly beach town isn’t going to happen overnight but this is definitely a step in the right direction. Don’t worry boys, the girls will still be here just head down to the casino after 11pm or dial up your “date” on a social app.

Take a stroll through Sosua Ocean Village, Playa Laguna, Hispaniola, Sea Horse, Perla Marina and Casa Linda. The number of families, retirees and expats living in those communities is rising exponentially. The downtown district needed to be cleaned up and it needs to be accessible to everyone, not just the spandex hunters.

The future of Sosua is tied to residential real estate growth, commercial development and tourism. Not prostitution. The long term effects of cleaning up the downtown district and changing Sosua’s reputation will benefit everyone. #rescatemosnuestroparaiso

https://sosuaone.com/home/2019/9/14/closed-classicos-and-merengue-bar-downtown-sosua

 

[BermudaRum]

@frank12, been in retail management for over 40 yrs. The late G Jenkins founder of Publix Supermarkets taught many of us a valuable business lesson when dealing with markets you share with competitors. You need them (competitors) more than you need your own customers, because if you provide a better service, and product, than thier customers are where your growth will come from.

 

[ramesses]

Instead of trying to walk through overweight hookers and the overweight cigar-chomping horny middle aged men loitering on the sidewalk acting like Don Juans ?

I'll take the more empty sidewalks and believe me they will not be empty, if those new hotels fill up.

It's not that the sidewalks are empty...it is the sidewalks in many places are a hazard to walk on. It was not long ago that I sliced my leg open on a piece of rebar sticking out of a sidewalk. The infection was nasty. The town is run down...work on that first.