Next minister of Interior & Police says government will apply the law

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TropicalPaul

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The RD is still deeply in debt.
Who needs tourism revenues, if they were arriving , right?
Slap them in the face, so they will not return.

Britain has a good relationship with the US, but if a British national goes to the US on a tourist visa and overstays, the US government deports them and the same is true the other way around. Applying immigration law doesn't sour international relations. If the DR were to deport those who overstayed, don't think any foreign government would bat an eyelid.
 
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Britain has a good relationship with the US, but if a British national goes to the US on a tourist visa and overstays, the US government deports them and the same is true the other way around. Applying immigration law doesn't sour international relations. If the DR were to deport those who overstayed, don't think any foreign government would bat an eyelid.
UK and US have very different (stronger) economies than the Dominican Republic. The Dominican Republic deports who they want to deport based on the priorities of the policy objectives of the Administration running things at the time.
 
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Britain has a good relationship with the US, but if a British national goes to the US on a tourist visa and overstays, the US government deports them and the same is true the other way around. Applying immigration law doesn't sour international relations. If the DR were to deport those who overstayed, don't think any foreign government would bat an eyelid.

I would not think it's a government thing. The DR does not want the reputation of deporting people that spend $ here, especially when they already have a workaround.
 

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Did she say all of their highly sophisticated tracking information for all overstays was deleted by Danilo🤣

It's pretty easy, you have a stamp with a date on it when you arrive and this is also logged in a computer system. When they swipe your passport if you have stayed more than 30 days an alert goes on the system. It's the same whether you overstay or have residency, you have to go to a separate window to be validated before you leave immigration.
 

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I would not think it's a government thing. The DR does not want the reputation of deporting people that spend $ here, especially when they already have a workaround.
If it's not a "government thing", who do you think decides things like immigration policy?
 

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It's pretty easy, you have a stamp with a date on it when you arrive and this is also logged in a computer system. When they swipe your passport if you have stayed more than 30 days an alert goes on the system. It's the same whether you overstay or have residency, you have to go to a separate window to be validated before you leave immigration.

Perhaps , in the new world's system, you will purchase your desired visit days.....
THAT date gets stamped in your passport....

Same as overstay but in advance.... that way the Migracion knows ...
Stay beyond that longer date and they may ask for an explanation

Maybe-maybe-maybe
 

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Britain has a good relationship with the US, but if a British national goes to the US on a tourist visa and overstays, the US government deports them and the same is true the other way around. Applying immigration law doesn't sour international relations. If the DR were to deport those who overstayed, don't think any foreign government would bat an eyelid.

Correct,
However a far stretch to compare DR overstays to UK, EU, US, CA, BR
For obvious reasons.
 
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It's pretty easy, you have a stamp with a date on it when you arrive and this is also logged in a computer system. When they swipe your passport if you have stayed more than 30 days an alert goes on the system. It's the same whether you overstay or have residency, you have to go to a separate window to be validated before you leave immigration.
It maybe in the computer, but many times the migration officer checks my passport and counts the days himself...so I don't know if it appears in their system.
 

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Each and EVERTIME I left the officer kept her head down and not wanting to bother to thumb through all the dates she would ask " How long have you been here". Still not looking up it seemed to be a chore for her to reach for the stamp, lift it and stamp the passport. I have never overstayed so I don't know what would happen if I lied. Same thing at JFK. Before Covid they where a little more cordial. "Where did you go". Did you enjoy the golf? Welcome home".
I wonder if you didn't speak any Spanish with them at SDQ if they would have the energy or desire to pursue the overstay fine? Your thoughts?
 

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Correct,
However a far stretch to compare DR overstays to UK, EU, US, CA, BR
For obvious reasons.
Why? The few dollars that snowbirds spend in their AirBnB's, which themselves also usually don't pay tax, aren't going to sway Dominican migration policy, when the much bigger issue is the huge number of illegal Venezuelans and Haitians taking Dominican jobs, now more than ever with the pandemic and all the unemployment is has created.
 

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Each and EVERTIME I left the officer kept her head down and not wanting to bother to thumb through all the dates she would ask " How long have you been here". Still not looking up it seemed to be a chore for her to reach for the stamp, lift it and stamp the passport. I have never overstayed so I don't know what would happen if I lied. Same thing at JFK. Before Covid they where a little more cordial. "Where did you go". Did you enjoy the golf? Welcome home".
I wonder if you didn't speak any Spanish with them at SDQ if they would have the energy or desire to pursue the overstay fine? Your thoughts?

An individual officer can't stamp you out if you have overstayed. The system doesn't allow them to. When they scan your passport, the system flashes up a message, they send you to the overstay desk, and that's the only desk where they can take money and authorise your exit. And flights cannot take off unless all the passengers have been authorised to leave. I was once on a Delta flight from SDQ to ATL, we pushed back from the gate and had to return to the gate and offload a passenger who had not been correctly processed by immigration. The pilot said that he had no option as he would be denied permission to take off. Honestly they are quite organised with their systems, it's nothing like it was 10 years ago.
 
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when the much bigger issue is the huge number of illegal Venezuelans and Haitians taking Dominican jobs, now more than ever with the pandemic and all the unemployment is has created.
I have never seen a Haitian doing a job that a Dominican would want to do. Ever ‼

In order not to send anyone into a apoplectic fit (something many posters seem to be preconditioned to have). I will just say very gently and mildly that I have seen many a construction site in the Dominican Republic and the type of work being done by the Haitians was very different than the type of work being done by the Dominicans.

I will say again, the government of the Dominican Republic will enforce the law in such a way that achieves the policy objectives of the current administration.
 

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An individual officer can't stamp you out if you have overstayed. The system doesn't allow them to. When they scan your passport, the system flashes up a message, they send you to the overstay desk, and that's the only desk where they can take money and authorise your exit. And flights cannot take off unless all the passengers have been authorised to leave. I was once on a Delta flight from SDQ to ATL, we pushed back from the gate and had to return to the gate and offload a passenger who had not been correctly processed by immigration. The pilot said that he had no option as he would be denied permission to take off. Honestly they are quite organised with their systems, it's nothing like it was 10 years ago.
WOW! Thanks. I'm impressed.
 

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I have never seen a Haitian doing a job that a Dominican would want to do. Ever ‼

In order not to send anyone into a apoplectic fit (something many posters seem to be preconditioned to have). I will just say very gently and mildly that I have seen many a construction site in the Dominican Republic and the type of work being done by the Haitians was very different than the type of work being done by the Dominicans.
Would you say that Dominicans and Haitians in the construction of a 15 story building might be working on the same building but in different job functions? For example: one pouring concrete forms and the other doing trim work on a finish room
 

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I have never seen a Haitian doing a job that a Dominican would want to do. Ever ‼

In order not to send anyone into a apoplectic fit (something many posters seem to be preconditioned to have). I will just say very gently and mildly that I have seen many a construction site in the Dominican Republic and the type of work being done by the Haitians was very different than the type of work being done by the Dominicans.

I will say again, the government of the Dominican Republic will enforce the law in such a way that achieves the policy objectives of the current administration.
I would then question your observation skills. I have seen both Haitians and Dominicans carrying out every job possible on construction. I currently have a well being dug. First there were two Haitians and a Dominicans doing all the digging until they got down to about twenty feet and the two Haitians became afraid. The maestro replaced them with two Dominicans. My house I currently live in had a Haitian maestro and a crew of all Dominicans except one Haitian. I will agree that certain trades like electrician and plumber will usually be Dominican but even then quite often they have a Haitian assistant.
 

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An individual officer can't stamp you out if you have overstayed. The system doesn't allow them to. When they scan your passport, the system flashes up a message, they send you to the overstay desk, and that's the only desk where they can take money and authorise your exit. And flights cannot take off unless all the passengers have been authorised to leave. I was once on a Delta flight from SDQ to ATL, we pushed back from the gate and had to return to the gate and offload a passenger who had not been correctly processed by immigration. The pilot said that he had no option as he would be denied permission to take off. Honestly they are quite organised with their systems, it's nothing like it was 10 years ago.

Agreed, much more stringent. Now all foreign passports are locked after 30 days, even dual citizen Dominicans like my husband who travels on a USA passport. I have to go pay my fine at the other line to have it unlocked, he hands over his cedula to the regular officer and they unlock it.
 
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