Coronavirus - In the DR

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JD Jones

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I keep trying to deny this as a possibility but you may be right. Abineder just came out and said that the D.R. has Covid under control PLUS he is pushing for tourism to make a come back. I don't see how he can keep the curfew at 7, or worse plus he has to realize that he will kill many businesses permanently. People are suffering, the holidays are a distraction for now but that will change quickly.
I don't know if you saw it, but the curfew has been extended to March at the earliest.
 
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Lobo Tropical

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China certainly made a very calculated decision in cahoots with WHO to downplay and lie about the facts...period. They did this knowing that all the folks in their pocket would run cover for them. They were very successful. The Dominican Republic, America, the environment and the world are paying the consequences. China will get much stronger as a result.

You may be on to something.

China to overtake US as world's biggest economy by 2028, report predicts​

Centre for Economics and Business Research says it expects this to happen half a decade sooner than it forecast a year ago.

China will overtake the US as the world’s biggest economy before the end of the decade after outperforming its rival during the global Covid-19 pandemic, according to a report.

The Centre for Economics and Business Research said that it nowexpected the value of China’s economy when measured in dollars to exceed that of the US by 2028, half a decade sooner than it expected a year ago.

With luck China will help the DR with it's vaccination programme, Abinader could ask.
 

USA DOC

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Missed, supposedly, sorry for that.
My understanding is that the "escaped" theory was spread by conspiracy theorist to blame China as purposefully releasing the Coronavirus on the world without a shred of evidence. It was never believed by reputable experts.

There are 7 BSL level 4 containment labs in Europe, three in Canada and seven in the US.
Designers of the labs built in multiple overlapping safety precautions such that a leak is as close to impossible you can get.
There has never been a leak.

There is a need to study bio hazard agents.
The worldwide devastation caused by a simple Coronavirus will not be lost on terrorists.
Far cheaper and easier to develop and deliver a bio hazard than any bomb with the added advantage of bio weapons only kill the enemy and all the infrastructure is fine.
like a super Ebola...
 

PICHARDO

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Since 25 Dec no COVID-19 deaths in the DR....
 

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PICHARDO

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At this point in time, knowing a bit more about the recent spike of adverse reactions to both Vaccines 💉 in use as of now in Western nations. My bet is on Sputnik V as best candidate and safest.
Based on proven tech for the development of vaccines and coming from a Nobel laureates 🧪 lab, this is the safest vaccine yet.

The Western media has tried to sink any news of its success to no avail. The legend is propagating faster because of it.

No doubt this is about the billions to be made on whichever vaccine is best at the end.
They made their beds early on two as of yet unproven safe nor truly effective in the real world vaccines.

The floodgates are opening and once the pressure can’t be contained with falsified snippets of media manipulations, the tsunami will be unstoppable.

The only vaccine I will let put into my body is Sputnik V...

Even if I have to buy it myself.
 

lifeisgreat

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At this point in time, knowing a bit more about the recent spike of adverse reactions to both Vaccines 💉 in use as of now in Western nations. My bet is on Sputnik V as best candidate and safest.
Based on proven tech for the development of vaccines and coming from a Nobel laureates 🧪 lab, this is the safest vaccine yet.

The Western media has tried to sink any news of its success to no avail. The legend is propagating faster because of it.

No doubt this is about the billions to be made on whichever vaccine is best at the end.
They made their beds early on two as of yet unproven safe nor truly effective in the real world vaccines.

The floodgates are opening and once the pressure can’t be contained with falsified snippets of media manipulations, the tsunami will be unstoppable.

The only vaccine I will let put into my body is Sputnik V...

Even if I have to buy it myself.
I would personally wait for kim jong vaccine no hair loss..
 
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PICHARDO

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Interesting news from China:

Nearly half a million people may have had Covid-19 in Wuhan, study shows. That's almost 10 times the official figure

 

windeguy

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I keep trying to deny this as a possibility but you may be right. Abineder just came out and said that the D.R. has Covid under control PLUS he is pushing for tourism to make a come back. I don't see how he can keep the curfew at 7, or worse plus he has to realize that he will kill many businesses permanently. People are suffering, the holidays are a distraction for now but that will change quickly.
When Abinader says control and pushes tourism, he is talking about AI tourism. That was and is his the focus of his government when it comes to tourism. AI tourism is making a slow comeback already but has a long way to to. The nightly curfew has little impact on those staying at AI resorts since it does not apply to them.

Keeping the rest of the country "closed and safe at night" will be what is done to control the level of CV19 unless and until a sufficient number of people, whatever that number arbitrarily is, are vaccinated. That is why I say the end of 2021 will be that time. And I am sticking with that prediction.
 

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At this point in time, knowing a bit more about the recent spike of adverse reactions to both Vaccines 💉 in use as of now in Western nations. My bet is on Sputnik V as best candidate and safest.
Based on proven tech for the development of vaccines and coming from a Nobel laureates 🧪 lab, this is the safest vaccine yet.

The Western media has tried to sink any news of its success to no avail. The legend is propagating faster because of it.

No doubt this is about the billions to be made on whichever vaccine is best at the end.
They made their beds early on two as of yet unproven safe nor truly effective in the real world vaccines.

The floodgates are opening and once the pressure can’t be contained with falsified snippets of media manipulations, the tsunami will be unstoppable.

The only vaccine I will let put into my body is Sputnik V...

Even if I have to buy it myself.

All vaccines were created by far from stupid people, but still there is some mistrust, since the testing period was extremely short. Although, on the other hand, the development of vaccines in general has been going on for more than a decade and I want to believe that medicine has reached the point that an effective and safe drug can be developed quickly.
 

Garyexpat

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When Abinader says control and pushes tourism, he is talking about AI tourism. That was and is his the focus of his government when it comes to tourism. AI tourism is making a slow comeback already but has a long way to to. The nightly curfew has little impact on those staying at AI resorts since it does not apply to them.

Keeping the rest of the country "closed and safe at night" will be what is done to control the level of CV19 unless and until a sufficient number of people, whatever that number arbitrarily is, are vaccinated. That is why I say the end of 2021 will be that time. And I am sticking with that prediction.
I do not doubt that the majority of tourism by far is in the AI resorts however I don't see that spelled out in anything I've read regarding Abinader. I am not a fan of AI's myself but visit them when family or friends visit and book before speaking to me. I will say that the last time in CHIC in Punta Cana, about 1 1/2 years ago there was a noticeable difference in that many of the guests were going out to PC clubs at night as opposed to say 10 years ago when everyone stayed within the confines of the resort. Either way the curfew will destroy many of the finest restaurants across the country which have depended largely on a dinner crowd. So sad for people that have worked so hard to build a business. - Not too good for musicians either -
 

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I do not doubt that the majority of tourism by far is in the AI resorts however I don't see that spelled out in anything I've read regarding Abinader. I am not a fan of AI's myself but visit them when family or friends visit and book before speaking to me. I will say that the last time in CHIC in Punta Cana, about 1 1/2 years ago there was a noticeable difference in that many of the guests were going out to PC clubs at night as opposed to say 10 years ago when everyone stayed within the confines of the resort. Either way the curfew will destroy many of the finest restaurants across the country which have depended largely on a dinner crowd. So sad for people that have worked so hard to build a business. - Not too good for musicians either -
If you read the local news it has been clearly stated numerous times that that Abinader is focusing on AI tourism. It has been stated many times. I have posted these statements many times myself. That is where the money is , and hence the focus.

True that the non-AI businesses will continue to suffer through all or most of 2021. I don't expect to be playing live music any time soon.
 
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If you read the local news it has been clearly stated numerous times that that Abinader is focusing on AI tourism. It has been stated many times. I have posted these statements many times myself. That is where the money is , and hence the focus.

True that the non-AI businesses will continue to suffer through all or most of 2021. I don't expect to be playing live music any time soon.
The latest article I saw about tourism in PC was that they were hurting. I asked another 3 people today how many people they knew personally that "died" of, not had the virus and not one knew anyone. This is the norm since I've been asking.
 

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True that the non-AI businesses will continue to suffer through all or most of 2021. I don't expect to be playing live music any time soon.
Don't worry, that's the end goal.
Remember, the World Economic Forum said that "you'll own nothing and you'll be happy .
Why? Because they'll own everything and be happier!😉
 

windeguy

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Some unfortunate news about the Moderna vaccine. They released results of their clinical trials which showed a marked decrease in antibodies after only 3 months. Only more time will tell if there are enough antibodies and/or T cells left after 3 months for continued immunity to CV19. Nobody knows yet how long any vaccine will actually last.

When the vaccine research started and people that were actually infected were showing a decrease in antibodies after 3 to 4 months, I questioned how a vaccine could maintain immunity longer than actually having the disease. The experts spoke of m-rna vaccines and sugar plum fairies along with warp speed vaccine development and testing.

Now one of those prized vaccines is showing what perhaps is a huge problem. And for older people, the antibodies last a shorter time in the Moderna tests.

We have now idea how long the Astra Zeneca vaccine will last which is the current choice for the DR. Nor do we have any idea how long any of them will last.

For certain, if vaccine's immunity last only a few months, like 3 or 4, there will never be herd immunity. 2021 should reveal if this is really a problem.
 

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Another article on the approval.

 

PICHARDO

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Sputnik V is the best candidate for the DR. It has been used since an early time over all others and has shown it continuously protects the ones vaccinated with it in Russia.

It’s developed using a secured long established vaccine 💉 adenovirus vector, much like all vaccines in our modern history. They introduce no changes into our DNA and more importantly, no extreme side effects like others to date.

It was developed at a Nobel laureates lab in Russia. Which has provided excellent emergency vaccines before of world importance, like Ebola and others.

You don’t need the two shots, as one shot alone can provide protection for at least 4 months. This is enough time to eliminate the hot zones and recurring infection in large populations.
After all the incubation period of Covid-19 is less than one month and only 6 days in the majority of cases.

Once the pandemic is eliminated locally, it’s only a matter of a strict inbound arrivals monitoring program (vaccinated passports) to keep any new breakout from taking root in the country.

Sputnik V is the ideal candidate based on this and based on mixing the jabs with others on a later term, to improve the odds.

Period.
 
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