Getting ready to remove the curfew?

[NanSanPedro]

I am not Mother Teresa and...

I don't think you have to worry about anyone mistaking you for her.

 

[CristoRey]

I am not Mother Teresa and I don't want to play one. I don't want to express fake sadness when I don't have the real one. Life is changing, nothing is permanent. If some people think that the flow of tourists, customers, passengers, etc is something granted and guaranteed and when it's over they demand Government to pay compensations, that's just a stupidity and nothing else. It may be a tourist paradise now, but who knows, maybe in two years from now seaweeds will grow up 10 times more and ruin all beaches, and tourists will stop coming here at all and there will be no solution. Or there will be some Covid-23 or Covid-24 with severe diarrhea and wearing a diaper on a plane or in all public places will be mandatory because all bathrooms will be closed. Who knows? If some people live without thinking about Plan B for such situations, it's their problem, not mine... maybe now they start to think about it. Maybe it's time for bar owners to think about another type of business. Maybe it's time for tourist taxi drivers to find another job.

Another point is that this 'curfew, masks and social distancing' thing is the first time in DR history when some rules are actually enforced. And as I said before, it's very good because the enforcement of the rules educates them how to act like normal. You can't deny obvious things, no matter if you like them or not. I just say it directly.

You think this is going to force people to act normal? Lol, I wish I was running a home security company catering to the "Haves". Once they lift this curfew crime is going to skyrocket. Guys like you who are holding something worth taking should probably continue sheltering in place. I'm not kidding. If you really understood the mentality of the average unemployed Dominican male 18 to 25 yrs of age, you would not have been in favor of this curfew.

 

[Garyexpat]

Good. Nobody will die if they eat their late meal at home.

So nice how YOU want to dictate or support a Government that dictates where people eat their meals.

 

[Garyexpat]

Exactly this. My friend sells very expensive watches in Punta Cana airport. Has a 4 year old child and a family member that he supports, previously he was earning 80,000 a month average. During the pandemic he was laid off, lived on 5000 a month. Ate once a day, some days just a couple of bananas. Back at work now but they have halved the commission structure (probably permanently), he's got loads of debts, his child had to go and live with its mother as there was no food. The last time I saw him he started telling me about it and burst out crying, a proud, grown man. And this is someone in Punta Cana, not Santo Domingo. And I hear the same story every day.

Maybe the issue is that Dominicans are used to living tougher lives than we are. People in the UK think that poverty means your iPhone is 2 years old and you can't pay the Netflix subscription.

I see the same thing that curfews have done in the D.R. have also happened here in Colombia and obviously all over the world.

You're currently in Colombia, you see better what happens here from there? Because I am in DR now, and I see what happens here every day. Yes, it was a total mess with that 5 PM / 12 pm on weekends curfew before, but now with the 9 PM curfew with transit until midnight and 7 PM on weekends it doesn't ruin anything for normal people. And it did not come out of the blue with no reason.

I have lived in the D.R. for almost 15 years. I left for Colombia when the 12 noon / 5 p.m. curfews were in place but the D.R. is still home. I absolutely know the D.R. better than you. I have not only lived in various places but have visited almost all cities and rural areas. I ALSO have many experiences being in barrios with people you would probably not give the time of day. I read the news D.R. news daily and talk to friends over there on a daily basis as well.
You should try getting out of your Naco Tower once in a while, even at night, and you might be surprised, it is NOT only people wanting to cause trouble after 9 p.m, - There is one thing we agree on from your other post the freedoms in the U.S. are not what they once were. The inmates are running the asylum.

 

[Eugene_A]

Once they lift this curfew crime is going to skyrocket. Guys like you who are holding something worth taking should probably continue sheltering in place.

I don't go out here after 9 PM with the curfew or without it, I think I said that three times already. And I live on the high floor of a residential tower in Naco, so with the curfew or without it, the only difference for me is noise, but not a risk of break-in. I can leave the country for months with my windows and balcony door open, nothing happens, I don't need to lock windows here, and don't need 'part-of-the-culture' steel window bars like in jail.

Once the curfew is lifted, your Dominican friends will suffer from night burglaries committed by other Dominicans, but you don't have to worry since you believe it's the part of their culture.

So nice how YOU want to dictate or support a Government that dictates where people eat their meals.

I don't want to dictate anything. If the Government dictates that, tell me who voted for this Government six months ago? The same Domnicans who complain about curfew now. I just don't see any problem if they eat their late night meal at home, not at the restaurant.

If you care so much about the restaurant owner suffering, you are free to go to the restaurant every day and donate the same amount of money that you used to spend for a late night meal, without eating it. Your friends can do the same. If you care so much, prove it donating YOUR money. Do it daily. But if you don't, that means that you really don't care as much as I do, but you just want to look like you care, the typical North American and Latin American two-faced hypocritical behavior.

 

[Eugene_A]

I have lived in the D.R. for almost 15 years. I left for Colombia when the 12 noon / 5 p.m. curfews were in place but the D.R. is still home. I absolutely know the D.R. better than you. I have not only lived in various places but have visited almost all cities and rural areas.

Well, I don't want to argue with you for the sake of arguing. Honestly I never had a goal to visit every urine smelling corner of every trashy ghetto in any country, be it DR, Panama, Colombia or whatever. I live and stay in nice areas, I travel to nice places, I make friends with well-educated and well-traveled people. If you think that the deeper you dig into barrios, the better you know the country, I'm afraid that's not true, but if you love to do that and it's your lifestyle, why not?

 

[TropicalPaul]

I don't think you have to worry about anyone mistaking you for her.

PMSL. Best post of the day

 

[CristoRey]

You can blame Chinese for the virus, you can blame Government for curfew and shutdowns. I just live my life and enjoy what I like. If I like quiet streets at night, that doesn't make me selfish. I am not Mother Teresa. I am not pameals, just donate money to suffering restaurant owners and go home without a meal?

So nice how YOU want to dictate or support a Government that dictates where people eat their meals.

Crime is going to go up and up and up along with prices of food.

 

[TropicalPaul]

Raquel Peña has just announced that there isn't going to be any change to the existing curfew next week. So for now it seems that there's not going to be a change. I'm convinced that the next change will be to remove it completely though.

 

[Eugene_A]

Crime is going to go up and up and up along with prices of food.

I tried to read your posts again. I think you are a bit confused here. Who commit crimes? Aliens from Mars? Or Dominicans? According to you, it's the part of their culture too? You admit that crimes will go up if they lift the curfew, the same time you advocate for lifting it. Prices of food will go up, but let's bring back the restaurants again. They don't have money for food, they are suffering, but they have money for eating in restaurants, how come? They will commit more crimes to be able to eat in restaurants, or what?

Something is wrong with logic here.

 

[Big]

Well, I don't want to argue with you for the sake of arguing. Honestly I never had a goal to visit every urine smelling corner of every trashy ghetto in any country, be it DR, Panama, Colombia or whatever. I live and stay in nice areas, I travel to nice places, I make friends with well-educated and well-traveled people. If you think that the deeper you dig into barrios, the better you know the country, I'm afraid that's not true, but if you love to do that and it's your lifestyle, why not?

Sir gene, There are a few gentleman here posting in this very thread that I agree with 97 percent of the time. Some even post my very thoughts. I might have to add you to my list. I go out of my way not to mingle with the unwashed , unemployed, bottom dwellers.

 

[Garyexpat]

I don't go out here after 9 PM with the curfew or without it, I think I said that three times already. And I live on the high floor of a residential tower in Naco, so with the curfew or without it, the only difference for me is noise, but not a risk of break-in. I can leave the country for months with my windows and balcony door open, nothing happens, I don't need to lock windows here, and don't need 'part-of-the-culture' steel window bars like in jail.

Once the curfew is lifted, your Dominican friends will suffer from night burglaries committed by other Dominicans, but you don't have to worry since you believe it's the part of their culture.

I don't want to dictate anything. If the Government dictates that, tell me who voted for this Government six months ago? The same Domnicans who complain about curfew now. I just don't see any problem if they eat their late night meal at home, not at the restaurant.

If you care so much about the restaurant owner suffering, you are free to go to the restaurant every day and donate the same amount of money that you used to spend for a late night meal, without eating it. Your friends can do the same. If you care so much, prove it donating YOUR money. Do it daily. But if you don't, that means that you really don't care as much as I do, but you just want to look like you care, the typical North American and Latin American two-faced hypocritical behavior.

Your comments become more and more asinine. "North American and Latin American two-faced hypocritical behavior." I'm not even sure what you mean by this. I'm guessing you've been hitting the sauce pretty hard today?

 

[CristoRey]

You admit that crimes will go up if they lift the curfew, the same time you advocate for lifting it.....

Something is wrong with logic here.

Logic?
No such thing down here.
Crime will go up and up and up.
And yes, I absolutely favor lifting the curfew. 100%.

 

[Eugene_A]

Your comments become more and more asinine. "North American and Latin American two-faced hypocritical behavior." I'm not even sure what you mean by this. I'm guessing you've been hitting the sauce pretty hard today?

Let me explain it. Mods, please don't delete this, this is just an example of difference in mentalities. Sorry for a little offtopic, this may just help to understand what I meant in the post quoted above.

In US or DR, even if you really think 'they can go to hell, f#ck them', you never say it in public. You say 'poor people are suffering, I feel so sorry for them'. If somebody thinks about you 'what an a$$hole', when he meets you in your building's lobby, he says 'oh my friend, como estas, mucho tiempo, blah blah blah'.

In countries like Poland or Russia, if you think 'they can go to hell, f#ck them', you say in public 'they can go to hell, f#ck them'. If somebody thinks about you 'what an a$$hole', when he meets you in your building's lobby, he says 'Hey you a$$hole'.

I hope you understand what I meant.

 

[Eugene_A]

Logic?
No such thing down here.
Crime will go up and up and up.
And yes, I absolutely favor lifting the curfew. 100%.

That's what I was thinking. 100% Aplatanado.

 

[johne]

Raquel Peña has just announced that there isn't going to be any change to the existing curfew next week. So for now it seems that there's not going to be a change. I'm convinced that the next change will be to remove it completely though.

TP
You are absolutely going to be right on one of these days. There is no doubt in my mind. Good forward thinking my friend.

 

[Garyexpat]

Let me explain it. Mods, please don't delete this, this is just an example of difference in mentalities. Sorry for a little offtopic, this may just help to understand what I meant in the post quoted above.

In US or DR, even if you really think 'they can go to hell, f#ck them', you never say it in public. You say 'poor people are suffering, I feel so sorry for them'. If somebody thinks about you 'what an a$$hole', when he meets you in your building's lobby, he says 'oh my friend, como estas, mucho tiempo, blah blah blah'.

In countries like Poland or Russia, if you think 'they can go to hell, f#ck them', you say in public 'they can go to hell, f#ck them'. If somebody thinks about you 'what an a$$hole', when he meets you in your building's lobby, he says 'Hey you a$$hole'.

I hope you understand what I meant.

Well, most who know me would say I'm an asshole but for some reason still like hanging out with me (no I am not picking up the tab) and if you knew me at all you would know I speak my mind. Some say I am too direct but I prefer direct.

 

[Eugene_A]

Garyexpat, as I said, if you really care that much about restaurant owners suffering because of the curfew, give them the same amount of money you would spend there for your late night dinner, do it daily or on the same schedule like if you were eating there at night. But if you don't do it, your speech is a hypocritical crap.

 

[Garyexpat]

Garyexpat, as I said, if you really care that much about restaurant owners suffering because of the curfew, give them the same amount of money you would spend there for your late night dinner, do it daily or on the same schedule like if you were eating there at night. But if you don't do it, your speech is a hypocritical crap.

I care about restaurant owners but I'm not a F***ing idiot. I keep trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but your comments are so inane and you obviously no NADA about the country or culture. I frequent many restaurants and so support them financially but I am not their financial backers. Many would not need financial backers if the draconian mesures imposed by the powers to be, which you love, were not in place.

Obviously I gave you too much credit for critical thinking.

 

[franco1111]

You think this is going to force people to act normal? Lol, I wish I was running a home security company catering to the "Haves". Once they lift this curfew crime is going to skyrocket. Guys like you who are holding something worth taking should probably continue sheltering in place. I'm not kidding. If you really understood the mentality of the average unemployed Dominican male 18 to 25 yrs of age, you would not have been in favor of this curfew.

These people have no clue where they are.