Having a hard time believing that ICE vehicles have a 1.5% rate of catching fire.
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Electric Cars in the DR
Data Shows EVs are Less of a Fire Risk than Conventional Cars | Office of Environmental and Energy Coordination
Fairfax County, Virginia - Blog about fire risks associated with EVs and how they are less of a risk than traditional vehicles.
There is a lot of data out there and not just from the US.
It is a given that it is harder to suppress EV fires and that they are more severe from a damage perspective, but the hype against them is just that......hype.
And batteries, the major cause of those fires, have been undergoing significant technological innovations to address those issues.
The major power player (pun intended) in the east is on board and funding initiatives in that regard, so the market share of EV's is only going to get larger.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
You obviously don't live here. Not a lot of Dominicans have a garage to charge from, in fact very few compared to the Country. And they still need 10-20 hours to charge. Along with paying thousands of US Dollars to set up Level 2. If they can even find an electrician that can do it without blowing up their house. But keep dreaming..................
I have not had property or lived there for several years now....but that has no bearing on the issues....and I still do business in the country.....
And no they do not need 10-20 hours to charge on Level 2.
And no Level 2 home chargers do not cost thousands......
And yes there are certainly qualified electricians who have set up/wired those chargers......
And the future of EV's in the DR as outlined by INTRANT;
Instituto Nacional de Tránsito y Transporte Terrestre | INTRANT - INTRANT presenta Plan Estratégico Nacional de Movilidad Eléctrica RD
Iniciativa busca mejorar la calidad y sostenibilidad del medioambiente mediante la reducción del consumo de combustibles fósiles El Instituto Nacional de Tránsito y Transporte Terrestre (INTRANT), realizó hoy el lanzamiento oficial del Plan Estratégico Nacional de Movilidad Eléctrica, que tiene...
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The government is now looking to electrify public transportation.
One private company is looking to use electric semi-trucks from Freightlliner-eCascadia for the transport of goods to/from the ports......and I know this because I have been asked to source those vehicles.
This is the reality of what is actually happening....versus the nonsense you so often post.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
Wait a second, aren't the new school buses electric?I have not had property or lived there for several years now....but that has no bearing on the issues....and I still do business in the country.....
And no they do not need 10-20 hours to charge on Level 2.
And no Level 2 home chargers do not cost thousands......
And yes there are certainly qualified electricians who have set up/wired those chargers......
And the future of EV's in the DR as outlined by INTRANT;
Instituto Nacional de Tránsito y Transporte Terrestre | INTRANT - INTRANT presenta Plan Estratégico Nacional de Movilidad Eléctrica RD
Iniciativa busca mejorar la calidad y sostenibilidad del medioambiente mediante la reducción del consumo de combustibles fósiles El Instituto Nacional de Tránsito y Transporte Terrestre (INTRANT), realizó hoy el lanzamiento oficial del Plan Estratégico Nacional de Movilidad Eléctrica, que tiene...
The government is now looking to electrify public transportation.
One private company is looking to use electric semi-trucks from Freightlliner-eCascadia for the transport of goods to/from the ports......and I know this because I have been asked to source those vehicles.
This is the reality of what is actually happening....versus the nonsense you so often post.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
Don't mind me as I take most stats with a grain of salt. In this case, I have probably driven a million fire free miles, nor have I ever come across a vehicle fire. However, it could be understandable in places like the DR with a 50 year old overworked and underserviced fleet of taxis.Data Shows EVs are Less of a Fire Risk than Conventional Cars | Office of Environmental and Energy Coordination
Fairfax County, Virginia - Blog about fire risks associated with EVs and how they are less of a risk than traditional vehicles.www.fairfaxcounty.gov
There is a lot of data out there and not just from the US.
It is a given that it is harder to suppress EV fires and that they are more severe from a damage perspective, but the hype against them is just that......hype.
And batteries, the major cause of those fires, have been undergoing significant technological innovations to address those issues.
The major power player (pun intended) in the east is on board and funding initiatives in that regard, so the market share of EV's is only going to get larger.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
There is a chance the numbers will change much later when a fleet of 50 year old EVs get run into the ground.
You are aware many of the “new school buses” are old OMSA buses and those that were suppose to be the feeders on the first line of the SD Metro that have been repainted with the school buses colors and logo, right?
Have you seen the DR during a fuel shortage? If only Dominican gas stations could talk!
US Embassy in Santo Domingo? Lines!
Banreservas during the quicenas… Lines and often they are too long!
At any modern Dominican supermarket in check out? Lines!
At check-in in international airports? Lines!
To board an airplane? Lines!
During the grand opening of the first store of any foreign franchise? Well…
Hmm… A bunch of Dominicans in line. No, it can’t be…
Because that was not a NTSB statistic.
In fact here's the truth after Car and Driver saw that misrepresentation :
My neighbor's 1997 Mazda caught fire 4 weeks ago - but it was an electrical fire not a fuel fire. His under hood fuse box shorted out. Since then he had the fuse box and wiring harness replaced (for 16000 pesos).
Since most cars are no longer fueled by carburetors there are very few fuel-related fires.
Of course if it's a salvage title or had weired mods done to it, a car might be more susceptible to fuel fire. You just don't see many car fires.
My friend bought a Lucid Air, nice car, and he put a Level 2 charger with Wifi connectivity in his shop. Cost him $1,700 and he's a retired electrician and did the work himself. I guess for an $80,000 car that's cheap.I have not had property or lived there for several years now....but that has no bearing on the issues....and I still do business in the country.....
And no they do not need 10-20 hours to charge on Level 2.
And no Level 2 home chargers do not cost thousands......
And yes there are certainly qualified electricians who have set up/wired those chargers......
And the future of EV's in the DR as outlined by INTRANT;
Instituto Nacional de Tránsito y Transporte Terrestre | INTRANT - INTRANT presenta Plan Estratégico Nacional de Movilidad Eléctrica RD
Iniciativa busca mejorar la calidad y sostenibilidad del medioambiente mediante la reducción del consumo de combustibles fósiles El Instituto Nacional de Tránsito y Transporte Terrestre (INTRANT), realizó hoy el lanzamiento oficial del Plan Estratégico Nacional de Movilidad Eléctrica, que tiene...
The government is now looking to electrify public transportation.
One private company is looking to use electric semi-trucks from Freightlliner-eCascadia for the transport of goods to/from the ports......and I know this because I have been asked to source those vehicles.
This is the reality of what is actually happening....versus the nonsense you so often post.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
So what is the cost of an EV Freightliner?
Since empty driving range with trailer for an EV semi is less than 200 miles (I assume that's not stop & go traffic) which is all that exists in DR, how practical is it?
I assume cost will be above $500,000. 2 hours to charge to 80%, which means it might work 6 hours out of a typical delivery day at best.
What you have to consider is the battery for a semi is contained under the cab of the truck. So space is limited for battery size. It can't be housed in the trailer.
While EV cars seem, at best, impractical now, a EV semi is just virtue signaling at this point.
If everyone thinks inflation is out of control now, imagine if everything was delivered by EV truck fleets.
The Freightliner Ecascadia is about $400k and the Tesla is around $300k and can haul 80,000 pounds for approximately 200 miles and a recharge from 0 to 80% takes 90 minutes.
The range needed in SD out of the port per day is estimated at 150 miles, so both trucks will work appropriately configured.
Pepsi is running a fleet of Tesla semi's now, as are other companies.
Amazon has been utilizing EV delivery trucks in its fleet for several years now. Many public transport companies in the US use EV's. One of the DR transport Unions has asked the government for help in purchasing 2,000 Chinese EV's for its members.
Which is cheaper to run, EV's or ICE vehicles, is still a matter of debate. The good news is that the competition and technology advances for EV"s have helped close the affordability gap between the two.
While it will be many years into the future before EV's get full adoption, that day gets closer every year.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
I guess this family did not get the memo.................
Pleasanton EV crash: Family of 4 perished, car continued burning. Unsafe EVs reveals corporate negligence
The Pleasanton EV crash serves as a chilling reminder of the potential dangers associated with driving electric vehicles (EVs). While EVs offer numerous benefits such as reduced emissions and lower fuel costs, this tragedy sheds light on the risks that can arise from vehicle malfunctions or design flaws. The fact that the car continued burning until nothing was left underscores the severity of the incident and raises concerns about the safety of EVs in similar scenarios.
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I saw that Reuters' report on May 21st that Pepsi was 'going' to deploy up to 50 Tesla Semis in California as a trial, but I don't think they are rolled out yet. Yes Amazon, UPS and many others are using EV cargo vans. I know the USPS rolled out their first mail delivery or sorting facility trucks in January.
I guess the proof will be in a couple years how successful and cost efficient they become and how the batteries last.
I still don't think semi trucks will be viable for long haul. It will also be interesting to see how regenerative braking on big rigs works, since there will be no gears for downshifting. I would particularly like to see the EVs perform over the Rockies and some of those grades in Wyoming and Colorado.
It would be nice to see less diesel smoke in the air.
That is an expansion of its current EV fleet.
Estes, a privately held trucking company is using EV’s.
The market share of EV’s commercially and otherwise in the DR will continue to expand in spite of the deniers. There is a lot of private capital in the DR behind the changes occurring in mobility, solar and wind.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
an electric tractor trailer is a pipe dream. Dreamed up by the climate fanatics. Reefer trailers and dump trucks require way too much energy and torque. I see a good amount of dump trucks here that are older, and many are in remarkable condition.