Barbecue knows English?!

Fulano2

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There is a lot of them in the Dutch Caribbean, why? because prostitution is legal. They are not going there to do computer coding. They cannot speak Dutch, period. Aruba has many of them, mostly girls.
Very few foreigners in the Dutch Caribean speak Dutch, even the natives struggle with it.
They speak Papiamento or English.
 
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Go back to The Netherlands, there are tens of thousands of Haitians living there that has to learn Dutch to qualify, just like all who wish to emigrate there 😉
Do you really think all foreigners who live in the Netherlands speak Dutch ? They are mostly very low educated, it’s not that Holland imports la crème de la crème (that’s french yes) of the third world.
I stay in Belgium, thank you.
 
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Go back to The Netherlands, there are tens of thousands of Haitians living there that has to learn Dutch to qualify, just like all who wish to emigrate there 😉
Thousands? Thank God no.
Read this and if you don’t understand it ask your Haitian friend to translatie it.

 

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Go back to The Netherlands, there are tens of thousands of Haitians living there that has to learn Dutch to qualify, just like all who wish to emigrate there 😉
Are you including the Caribbean Netherlands in your "tens of thousands"? Is there a link (where did you get this number from) to your amount of "tens of thousands"?
 

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I read it somewhere, recently but alas did not save it. Not that it matters. Someone would find another old source to try and contradict with it, or even better just yell in all caps "Fake news".

The willingness to simply assert that it's not been "your" experience and therefore can't be true is all too common here. Same with dismissing the experiences of others when it runs contrary to what some claim.

The fact there are Dutch speaking Haitian and I have personally met them in 3 different countries. Bonaire having the most.

Like it or not, believe it or not it does not change my boots on the ground experience, and I'll not argue anymore about it here and especially not with the rigid and narrow minded
 

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I seem to remember seeing a lot of Haitians in Curacao the last time I went. Been a while. Or is my mind playing tricks on me.
 

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I read it somewhere, recently but alas did not save it. Not that it matters. Someone would find another old source to try and contradict with it, or even better just yell in all caps "Fake news".

The willingness to simply assert that it's not been "your" experience and therefore can't be true is all too common here. Same with dismissing the experiences of others when it runs contrary to what some claim.

The fact there are Dutch speaking Haitian and I have personally met them in 3 different countries. Bonaire having the most.

Like it or not, believe it or not it does not change my boots on the ground experience, and I'll not argue anymore about it here and especially not with the rigid and narrow minded
“The fact there are Dutch speaking Haitian and I have personally met them in 3 different countries.”

Unless you speak dutch yourself there is no way to check it.
 
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I seem to remember seeing a lot of Haitians in Curacao the last time I went. Been a while. Or is my mind playing tricks on me.

They make up 2/3rds of Bahamas population of 400k.

And more than 2/3rds of Turks and Caicos population.

The reason Haiti doesn’t share visa free entry throughout the CARICOM is due to Brazil and Suriname getting upset having Haitians travel thru Guyana (Carifom HQ) to their countries.
 

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Wow, I haven't seen too much about Barbecue and what languages he speaks. I was wondering how we could get 4 pages on this subject......
 
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lol. by the end of this thread Haitians will be lecturing at MIT and Yale in physics and microbiology.
First, leave Yale out of that.

Then, even the Haitians say:

“All Haitians speak Haitian Creole. But only 5% speak French fluently, with only another 5-10% able to understand some French.”​
https://blog.creolesolutions.com/what-language-do-haitians-speak#:~:text=We%20aren't%20trying%20to,able%20to%20understand%20some%20French.

Then this comes from someone else who may or may not be Haitian:

”It is estimated that roughly 5 to 10 percent of Haitians are functionally bilingual in French and Haitian Creole. However, 100 percent of Haitians speak Haitian Creole, and, more critically, 90% of Haitians speak only Haitian Creole.”​

“…most teachers have low French proficiency, the Haitian state demands children acquire educational content by means of a language nobody—not even the elite—is willing or able to speak.”​

"Even today [...] Haitian children are still subjected to a school system that largely operates in a language few Haitians speak with competence—let alone can read or write.”​

This is why whenever you hear someone say most of the Haitians that they know speak multiple languages, what they are saying is that most of the Haitians they know aren’t like most Haitians since the vast majority speak one language.
 

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First, leave Yale out of that.

Then, even the Haitians say:

“All Haitians speak Haitian Creole. But only 5% speak French fluently, with only another 5-10% able to understand some French.”​
https://blog.creolesolutions.com/what-language-do-haitians-speak#:~:text=We%20aren't%20trying%20to,able%20to%20understand%20some%20French.

Then this comes from someone else who may or may not be Haitian:

”It is estimated that roughly 5 to 10 percent of Haitians are functionally bilingual in French and Haitian Creole. However, 100 percent of Haitians speak Haitian Creole, and, more critically, 90% of Haitians speak only Haitian Creole.”​

“…most teachers have low French proficiency, the Haitian state demands children acquire educational content by means of a language nobody—not even the elite—is willing or able to speak.”​

"Even today [...] Haitian children are still subjected to a school system that largely operates in a language few Haitians speak with competence—let alone can read or write.”​

This is why whenever you hear someone say most of the Haitians that they know speak multiple languages, what they are saying is that most of the Haitians they know aren’t like most Haitians since the vast majority speak one language.

Yup. It’s greatly exaggerated and most don’t understand they are dealing with their diaspora which is the most educated populace.

This is the inverse of most nations regarding their diaspora.
 
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This is why whenever you hear someone say most of the Haitians that they know speak multiple languages, what they are saying is that most of the Haitians they know aren’t like most Haitians since the vast majority speak one language.
This may well be true. The ones that we meet here are the ones who want to get ahead, work, earn some money and improve their lives. They have the motivation to speak Spanish and other languages.
 
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First, leave Yale out of that.

Then, even the Haitians say:

“All Haitians speak Haitian Creole. But only 5% speak French fluently, with only another 5-10% able to understand some French.”​
https://blog.creolesolutions.com/what-language-do-haitians-speak#:~:text=We%20aren't%20trying%20to,able%20to%20understand%20some%20French.

Then this comes from someone else who may or may not be Haitian:

”It is estimated that roughly 5 to 10 percent of Haitians are functionally bilingual in French and Haitian Creole. However, 100 percent of Haitians speak Haitian Creole, and, more critically, 90% of Haitians speak only Haitian Creole.”​

“…most teachers have low French proficiency, the Haitian state demands children acquire educational content by means of a language nobody—not even the elite—is willing or able to speak.”​

"Even today [...] Haitian children are still subjected to a school system that largely operates in a language few Haitians speak with competence—let alone can read or write.”​

This is why whenever you hear someone say most of the Haitians that they know speak multiple languages, what they are saying is that most of the Haitians they know aren’t like most Haitians since the vast majority speak one language.
Thanks Nals. It does not change the fact that they ARE out there and many people have met them
 

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Thanks Nals. It does not change the fact that they ARE out there and many people have met them
Yes, there is probably one in the world that speaks Farsi as well. He is out there, somewhere, but not a moto driver in Sosua