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Don't blind yourself with 2000 channels, most of them will be religious, homeshopping alike, duplicates, other languages etc, i have never seen more than 200 active unique english spoken channels.

Prices ?? no idea at all
A lot of the cost depends what your purpose is, private use - need just 1 receiver, 1 antenna, and get what you can
or distribution, where you need a receiver and modulator for every channel (and Amps to cover the distance of the cable) and where C-Band is sometimes preferrable for quality on some channels.
 
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Adrian Bye

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You guys are really caught up in all the technology. As a consumer I don't need to know any of that, I just want a ballpark figure of costs and the end result.

But nevermind.
 
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No, we're not caught up in the technology. We understand it too well to be caught up in it. This has not been done before in our neck of the woods. Both Arjan and I can come up with a realistic ballpark if you tell us where the install has to be (in order to figure how to get to the satellite and if it is even possible .. footprints are sometimes not worth the paper that they are written on as we are very far away from the satellites) and what the conditions are (in order to figure what dish and technology hardware to use).

Without these parameters, we cannot give you a realistic ballpark .. but I'll give you one, between 12,000 and 30,000 dollars - no guarantees, no warantees, no idea of aduanas, cannot even estimate this .. Now, if one of us does a good site visit and figure out where the best place is to 'plant' this thing (in order to figure out mounting hardware), then we can give you a realistic ballpark. As a consumer, you need to understand where your money goes and what you're going to get for it, otherwise you'll be an unhappy consumer.
 
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Adrian Bye

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Thanks, that is helpful. That makes it a clear decision that further investigation isn't worth it for a home installation for the big dishes with 2k channels.
 
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Georgios, up to now, I've been gentle with you. Now, tell me, how many dishes of what standard and of what quality and is still working have you installed in central america and the caribbean? No really, give me the number. Between Dunhill and us, we must have installed well over 300, of all kinds of sizes and applications, for very large businesses, mission critical applications, closed private corporate television channels, vsat, running voice over ip, running large wans etc etc. Dunhill is a particular technical specialist in this field.

No, dishes are neither made nor sold in the DR. The ones that are made in the DR, are backyard jobs, out of true with home made feed arms that work when they want to work.

Now, there where you are in Canada, it sure is not a big project. Here where we are in the Dominican Republic and other islands it is a damn big project. So, now I'm going to tell you again that where you are, you may know what you are talking about, but where we are, you sure don't know a thing. The issues start with bringing the equipment across the borders, then getting it out of customs sticky little hands, etc etc.

Now, before I get rude, believe me, you don't really know what you are talking about if you move yourself to our neck of the woods. If you believe you know what you are talking about, please tell me how many installations you've done in the Caribbean. Both Dunhill and I know that you do not know what you are talking about.

Btw, do you know why both Arjan and I want a dish this size on a pole in the ground in the DR or any other hurricane prone area? Or setting these babies up to hurricane specs?
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No need to be rude. My satellite experience comes from Canadian installs only.
Here, all the equipment are found easily. No aduanas to deal with.

However, I do know about importing goods in the DR. I own a renewable energy company in the DR, based at Cabrera. I have been importing whole containers of equipment from all over the world for the past 3 years.
PM me to find out more about my DR company.

FTA is my hobby. Some of my DR friends have sat dishes and usually pick up
110 & 119. Their dishes are 52" or 1.3M. Lots of rain fade and weak signal.
I am proposing a 6 foot dish for better reception. I am against 10 or 12 or 14 foot dishes due to high cost.

Posting tips and results from people like me and other DR1 members who experiment with FTA is not a crime. It actually helps FTA users or hobbyist to improve their sat systems. I learn all I know from reading FTA forum theads and testing. There is no school or college to attend to about FTA. FTA can be here today and gone tomorrow. Nothing is for sure.

Your comments above do not help FTA users. If you are selling & installing sat systems, that's great. I don't sell or install sat systems. I merely share my experience with others who would like to share as well.

Since you are a moderator of this board you can control what is posted.
If this thead is bad for business, delete it. I won't post again.

Georgios
 
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adrianb said:
Given these setups cost $12k-$30k to install in the DR, is this thread still relevant?
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$30,000 pesos is the high end with 2 Dominican sat dishes and one standard FTA receiver (non-HD). That?s roughly $900 U.S.

If you drop back to one dish with 2 LNB?s ( Reception will be much weaker) then you can drop about $10,000 pesos off that figure.

These figures are standard here in the DR, you can save some money by doing your own installation. I bought 3 six foot dishes and installed them myself (Twice, first time on the roof, then later moved them to the ground to be less visible security wise).

I get a signal quality level on a CoolSat 4000 Pro of about 97 on Echo7 and 91 on Echo 8/10. The Viewsat shows signal quality levels much lower, but that is misleading, signal quality is probably the same, and is just the electronic meter circuit for the difference (Reception is the same on both boxes). Using 2 six foot dishes.

georgios said:
Hey Santiago,

Try to get your hands on the NFusion receiver. Perhaps a friend flying in from Canada or the US could bring it.
Georgios
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Heard a rumor that they are available here or soon will be.....
 
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FTA Hobby

All the international channels (including German, Italian, Israeli, etc.) are now on EchoStar 7 (119? W) and the Anik F3 satellite installation is no longer needed.

The locally made 6-ft-dishes offer good reception for their price and although the 'criollo' fixing of the LNB's may not look very professional, it does the trick and works very well.

Channel scanning on EchoStar 7,8 and 10 will get you about 600 channels.

m'frog
 
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Adrian Bye

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MF, Santiagodr, thanks for your interesting posts.

MF: are you using FTA in the DR yet? Is anyone?
 
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georgios

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Minjin said:
Here is a great resource for the Nfusion reciever.

Nfusion Forum - Register

The NFUSION Rocks!!

If you register for the forum please use me as a reference. Minjn
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I am an active member of this forum as well. All the info and "how to" are
in there. There is also a section of other FTA receivers (coolsat, viewsat etc)
Just a great website.
Georgios
 
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Sat dish fabrication in the DR.

mountainfrog said:
All the international channels (including German, Italian, Israeli, etc.) are now on EchoStar 7 (119? W) and the Anik F3 satellite installation is no longer needed.

The locally made 6-ft-dishes offer good reception for their price and although the 'criollo' fixing of the LNB's may not look very professional, it does the trick and works very well.

Channel scanning on EchoStar 7,8 and 10 will get you about 600 channels.

m'frog
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Nice to hear the DR made dishes are of good quality. Really, it's not rocket science but accuracy and craftmanship is a must to success.

How much do these dishes sell for?
Installation cost?
What material is used for the parabola? Steel, fibreglass or mesh with aluminum frame?

Georgios
 
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Parabolas

georgios said:
...How much do these dishes sell for?
Installation cost?
What material is used for the parabola? Steel,fibreglass or mesh with aluminum frame?
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There are several local manufacturers whose product quality seems to differ.
All use molds for their lightweight fibreglass dishes which have a metal mesh inside. They do not have a frame and sufficient stability is obtained by curling back the outer edge.
I use two different makes and the older one withstood two tropical storms.

Prices for 6-foot dishes typically range from around 10,000 to 14,000 RD$.

Installation costs depend on transport, site work (flat surface installation or inclined roof), number of LNB's to be aligned, length of cable and its laying, requirement of inline amplifiers, etc.

m'frog
 
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offtopic ... but ....

and if anyone is interested,
i have for sale:
1# 4ft (1.2m) single dish mold
1# 6ft (1.8m) double dish mold
with this you can start making your own antenna park
I have also some chemicals left

Interested ? PM Please.
 
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unable to edit org message ...

Double dish means, that the 6ft has a separated front and back part, that at the end will be glued together (stability) to 1 dish
 
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Where do you get your info from?

mountainfrog said:
All the international channels (including German, Italian, Israeli, etc.) are now on EchoStar 7 (119? W) and the Anik F3 satellite installation is no longer needed.

The locally made 6-ft-dishes offer good reception for their price and although the 'criollo' fixing of the LNB's may not look very professional, it does the trick and works very well.

Channel scanning on EchoStar 7,8 and 10 will get you about 600 channels.

m'frog
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Hi MF
Did you actually tried getting them via Echo7 ... as far as I know you need to still change the LNB because which will then pick up Echo and Anik F3 at the same time since the Intl channels are on Anik F3 in the low Frequencies, that's why you see on lyngsat two times transponder number 1.

You don't need to re-point the dish, but change the LNB for sure because the normal LNB's won't get the low frequency TP's ... I changed a lot already and there is no other way to the Intl. channels, but always open for new.

MZ
 
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About 690 Channels

I already had the circular LNB installed in order to get the international channels via Anik F3 and this worked all right.

However, when I scanned all the satellites (EchoStar 7,8, 10 and Anik F3) again the other day all the international channels were listed under EchoStar 7 on 119? W.

Subsequently I deleted the Anik F3 satellite from my installation set up as I feel that I don't need it any more.

Of course I did not need to realign the dish as it had always been receiving from 110/119/118.8?...

m'frog
 
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