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Snap out of it BIGBOY21
It's been called many things, but it is NEVER meaningless !!!!!!!!!!
It's been called many things, but it is NEVER meaningless !!!!!!!!!!
D in Tampa, aka, D in Santiago
This column started out really good i hope it is not to late for a real answer to my ?? last time I tried i was told it is miller time (by the way miller sucks). I understand the women and girls want and need money of course thy do. it is a very poor country if thy can get a job what thy make is crazy low. if thy go with a Dominican man who has a good job and a nice car and he gives her a baby and then sends her packing back to her moms house and never gives her a dime was this love? if she go's with a Dominican punk who never had money and never well and he gives her a baby was this love? and it seems that the rule once burned twice shy dos not apply in this case. I have come back a year later and sean the girls making the same mistakes over and over there must be some kind of logic to this even if it is crazy DR girl logic because thy don't seam to be to sad about the situation thy have put them selves in. If not not love then what is it. I am with racer I don't want to pay for another mans kid. But from what i am gathering from DR1 is that when thy are lucky enough to meet a foreign man there minds turn from what ever this crazy DR girl logic was that thy had with their own men to rob and steel from the foreigner. what the f is going on from where i sit these girls could not do any better then this Italian kid or the blue prince. I have been told many times that thy don't like Dominican men and thy think thy are cheep and bad is this all part of the game? if so the game got played on her first because there she sits with a baster kin no man and no money.
Please allow me to explain the "older men on DR1" response to the OP. I think I can speak in generalization on this overall subject without offending anyone.
The main problem which I see with the OP in this case is that he's moving a little too fast. As the thread goes along we find that he is looking for someone to settle down with, having experienced much "meaningless sex" in the past and is "tired". These statements indicate his predetermination to commit to a long term, live in relationship with a young lady whom he's only experienced on short trips to the DR. These were vacation trips for him and she's shared his vacations, travelling from Santiago to the Capital to be with him sharing his time, his bed and his money.
There's nothing at all wrong with that as a romantic arrangement but to go directly from this arrangement to living together full time would be to skip a step in the natural progression of a relationship. This is where "old guy wisdom" kicks in.
My suggestion to him was to get her to spend time at his home or to move to Santiago, get his own place, get his scholastic goals on track and continue to have her visit on the weekends if she wants to but take the time to observe her life in it's natural habitat before committing to a live in arrangement. On the issue of the $400 for a relative's medical expenses, how many of us have heard that one? Not for nothing but that's an automatic red flag for most of us. Many, many frequent travellers to the DR have "favoritas" whom we've known for years and they haven't asked for jack. We are generous with them and anticipate their needs and wants and some will show up with gifts (not me, I hate to shop) and some will gift small amounts of cash ($100 or less) for them to buy something special for themselves or their children but if the Woman I've shared a portion of my DR time with for the past 5 years ever asked me for $400 for any reason short of her child or her being seriously ill or injured and presenting the appropriate bills to me for direct payment there wouldn't be a year #6.
No, dear, sweet Dulce sex is not a "game" to us. It's a natural part of our lives and we don't "find fault with all women because we want to be single". I can't speak for everyone on this particular point but I have been "head over heels in love", married, watch as my spouse gradually changed, fell head over heels out of love and mutually agreed that we had developed incompatibility sufficient to end the marriage after a dozen years. We've both married (twice) since and have remained friends since and share the love and pride in our children and grandchildren but I would rather chew off my own arm than to have to live with that wonderful Woman again.
You don't have to "look for faults" in people to convince yourself to maintain control over your emotions. I once asked wife #2 "If I was perfect, what the Hell would I be doing with you?". Now she's ex-wife #2. We all have faults and the only questions we need answered when deciding as the OP did, to enter a serious relationship (and live-in= very serious) is "how well do I know this person, what level of risk is acceptable and what am I willing to settle for as the chrome wears off her bumpers?".
We'll joke a bit to lighten the subject and maybe rag on the kid to get his attention but we're just trying to get him to avoid low hanging branches and don't mean him any harm or discomfort.
Yeah it sucks, I will stop it in a few more years.
And for how many years have you been promising yourself that badpiece...
That's been my new years resolution for the last few years...
Yeah it sucks, I will stop it in a few more years.
And for how many years have you been promising yourself that badpiece...
That's been my new years resolution for the last few years...
What you talking about Willis?
Beans is having a brain fart.
I agree with graydread to an extent but... I also agree with all the people who say that since he claims to be balling out of control, what's the problem? Didn't he say it was petty cash? "500 dollar bottles of wine" etc. If the chick actualy has a sick relative and needs help then her relative may be dead by the time this discussion is over. He says he is from hatie right? If so, I would think he could understand suffering and pain. Those of us who have to give MUST give. I mean cmon, what if it was one of "our boys" who was in a jam? Would we sit around waiting to "consult the oracle" of the DR1 forum before we helped or would we just give them a hand if we could? Hell, for all we know it might not be a sick relative, she may be sick herself. (btw what's the average cost for abortion in the DR?)
Let's consider these things.
1the dude has it to spare
2We should all be in agreement that the chic knows he has it to spare
3After spending $500 for bottles of wine on her, what excuse will she accept for not rescuing her sic relative?
your nuts. I ll be here on the ground with some Bactine, Bayer and Band-aids waiting for you to fall out of your cloud.
I m sorry, bro, I was with you for a long minute there in the other thread. But you sound so naive that I m thinking you have no game at all or not as much as you purport to have. To me it sounds like you re standing at the Baccarat table reading the rule book for CandyLand. You dont get the environment you re in do you? I m trying to be kind, but some of your responses sound like the lyrics in a Whitney Houston record.
And IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Will Always Love Youuuuuuuuuu
Whitney Houston? GOLDEN!!
<sigh> Ok fellas, I really didnt want to take here but THIS cant just sit around and let people talk about "you have no game at all" OK, now before I ever came to this website, before I ever steped foot on DR soil, Before I even purchased my plane ticket. I read the US state departments travel website about crime and fraud in the DR. It explained that people were to be aware of fratting with the locals because of reports of travelers saying that after befriending them they try to hit them up talking about they need money for a sick relative bla bla bla. So I can say that I am well aware of this of this kind of scheme. BUT What if? like really WHAT IF? I mean dude does spend $500 on a bottle of wine right? Now Im a nice guy, Im always willing to treat and because of that I often end up treating... Now if I was out with one of my "home boys" (or even a customer for that matter) on the links, and would treat for the first round with no problem how could I tell him no or delay helping him if he "said" he was in dire need? I mean is a round of golf worth more than the well being of a friend or associate? Cmon now lets all ask ourselves how often to we get a chance to help someone in need? I mean really in need? Devine diction would have us to believe that one day we may be face to face with one who gave his all for us. He may(to some of you) say depart from me I know you not. When I was hungry you didnt feed me, when I was naked you didnt clothe me and when I was in prison or sick you didnt visit me. Now some would say to him in astonishment, When? Now if what I just said sounds like "bario spanish" and you havent a clue of where Im coming from, then naturaly you would think that THIS aint got no game. But you just have to realize that there are certain things that THIS dont play with!
Whitney Houston? GOLDEN!!
<sigh> Ok fellas, I really didnt want to take here but THIS cant just sit around and let people talk about "you have no game at all" OK, now before I ever came to this website, before I ever steped foot on DR soil, Before I even purchased my plane ticket. I read the US state departments travel website about crime and fraud in the DR. It explained that people were to be aware of fratting with the locals because of reports of travelers saying that after befriending them they try to hit them up talking about they need money for a sick relative bla bla bla. So I can say that I am well aware of this of this kind of scheme. BUT What if? like really WHAT IF? I mean dude does spend $500 on a bottle of wine right? Now Im a nice guy, Im always willing to treat and because of that I often end up treating... Now if I was out with one of my "home boys" (or even a customer for that matter) on the links, and would treat for the first round with no problem how could I tell him no or delay helping him if he "said" he was in dire need? I mean is a round of golf worth more than the well being of a friend or associate? Cmon now lets all ask ourselves how often to we get a chance to help someone in need? I mean really in need? Devine diction would have us to believe that one day we may be face to face with one who gave his all for us. He may(to some of you) say depart from me I know you not. When I was hungry you didnt feed me, when I was naked you didnt clothe me and when I was in prison or sick you didnt visit me. Now some would say to him in astonishment, When? Now if what I just said sounds like "bario spanish" and you havent a clue of where Im coming from, then naturaly you would think that THIS aint got no game. But you just have to realize that there are certain things that THIS dont play with!
Racer is being nice and doesnt want to tell you but I will, You have no game, at least in the DR you have absolutely no game my friend. You need to sit back and really listen to what people are telling you here. How in the name of God did these women survive without you guys???? Why is everyone sick when you are not in the country??? I would help any of my girls if someone was actually really ill but I would like to see medical documentation or I would refer them to a doctor that I personally know. You would be suprised once you tell them this they all of a sudden dont need your help. If you want to help them have them prove the medical problem. Stop thinking with the small head guys.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. A fool and his money are soon parted. Neither a borrower nor a lender be.
The point is not that you can look in the face of dire poverty and be unaffected and unwilling to do anything. The point to understand when you are being manipulated by
a. pity or,
b. selfishness, or
c. unrepentant greed.
You can give $1000 to the United Way or Yele Foundation and feel better about yourself than giving it to some shackback babe with 12 siblings from Sosua. Those are professional charities they know how to do what they do and get better results than you ever could.
"Grandpa[or someone] is sick..."
1. How do you know? Did you see the evidence that supports this claim?
2. Did you make him sick? Was he with you the time of the alleged illness to verify if he is ill?
3. What does he have? If he has AIDS, TB, Ebola, Mesothelioma, Cancer what can you really do to help him out, huh?
4. Why are you telling me? I m sorry to hear he is ill but I dont know you nor him to be too concerned, but I do wish him well
5. How old is he? If the guy is 95 years old then he has lived a good life. And no matter of money you give will extend it that much.
I think you need to read Berzins and Greydreads posts again. Because you didnt get it the 1st time. You dont pay people for the "privilege of being your friend". To be clear, she should be paying you for your friendship to learn the things you know and how to do them. How do you pay someone for the honor of being your friend and then when you want to hang out there is nothing you can do together? You give her money to stare at a wall or sit in the dark gossiping with the neighbors when the lights go out. Subsidizing a stick in the mud? Ha!
I had this conversation last night and I wasnt so reserved. The woman wanted to know if I was going to marry her. As "frankly honest as I could be"(cold blooded I was) I told her "quiero estar contigo pero nunca casarme contigo". She told me to go with God then, I let her know "Mira, soy el premio y tu estas la mujer cualquiera. Tu no le ofreces nada a relacion pero la mano extendida. No tengo interes en buscar mujer de Conani ni Circunvalacion a casarse". Yep, its cold man, but thats what you are going to get. A woman who makes herself the center of the relationship, but only complains about what you AINT doing luxuriously in excess. I ve known this woman for a year and since last August nothing in her life has gotten better. If guys were falling out of the sky to marry her they would have done it already. I didnt mean to burn her, because I really wanted to hit it again, but she was a selfish, egocentric woman and I clearly understood that apart from crushing her I wanted nothing to do with her. This woman was a toy to me and I knew it. But I dont know if you guys see that sometimes. This is why you have more than 1 in this country, in your city.
But THIS, its guys like you that mess the curve up. You re the kind of guy who gets Yacht Chef all confused because he is interacting with the women who know you by proxy or by 3rd person fairy tale. You meet a girl, she gives you a sob story you give her money(and its not just a measly amount like $25, but a whole flipping lot). Now she goes back to her best friend and says "He s rich." The excuses get stupider and you start to feel you re being played. You dump her, by text or some bulldung lie and cut your losses. Then he meets the same woman and she figures he is out to give me money also but he cant shake the woman. Now she setting him up to get robbed and stealing his stuff, under the guise that "its nothing to him, he cant just get more". Now he s doing the same thing, breaking up with a woman by text just to get far enough away from her and get it through her head that he doesnt want to see her anymore. Now I meet her and all I hear are lies. Either this woman has the worst luck in the world or she thinks everyone exists to put her on a pedestal. Its usually the latter which ameliorates every good situation she had bringing the former to fruition. Some one said here or in the other thread that the prettier the girl the worse her personality is and to a certain extent its true. Some of you guys are so goofy that you come here to this country and start drooling over these woman and they see it and it stereotypes their impression of you.
Love? Love yourself and make everyone else earn yours. Not with ass or a pretty face. Look for compatibility. THIS, you dont even speak the same language as the woman so you have no idea if you have compatibility. You other guys? I dont know, you want to hear that you can make it work with any woman. Maybe, but you always to be reserved. That where the time factor comes in. Given enough time, which you guys seem loathe to do, you can find out where this womans head is. But you guys never do that. Its as though if I dont lock her down now, someone else will. 1st of all, if someone was going to lock her down they did it, or would have done it already, and 2. If your relationship is founded on physical attraction primarily or solely then you d be better off extending your trip and not locking anything down at all.
The point is not that you can look in the face of dire poverty and be unaffected and unwilling to do anything. The point to understand when you are being manipulated by
a. pity or,
b. selfishness, or
c. unrepentant greed.
You can give $1000 to the United Way or Yele Foundation and feel better about yourself than giving it to some shackback babe with 12 siblings from Sosua. Those are professional charities they know how to do what they do and get better results than you ever could.
"Grandpa[or someone] is sick..."
1. How do you know? Did you see the evidence that supports this claim?
2. Did you make him sick? Was he with you the time of the alleged illness to verify if he is ill?
3. What does he have? If he has AIDS, TB, Ebola, Mesothelioma, Cancer what can you really do to help him out, huh?
4. Why are you telling me? I m sorry to hear he is ill but I dont know you nor him to be too concerned, but I do wish him well
5. How old is he? If the guy is 95 years old then he has lived a good life. And no matter of money you give will extend it that much.
I think you need to read Berzins and Greydreads posts again. Because you didnt get it the 1st time. You dont pay people for the "privilege of being your friend". To be clear, she should be paying you for your friendship to learn the things you know and how to do them. How do you pay someone for the honor of being your friend and then when you want to hang out there is nothing you can do together? You give her money to stare at a wall or sit in the dark gossiping with the neighbors when the lights go out. Subsidizing a stick in the mud? Ha!
I had this conversation last night and I wasnt so reserved. The woman wanted to know if I was going to marry her. As "frankly honest as I could be"(cold blooded I was) I told her "quiero estar contigo pero nunca casarme contigo". She told me to go with God then, I let her know "Mira, soy el premio y tu estas la mujer cualquiera. Tu no le ofreces nada a relacion pero la mano extendida. No tengo interes en buscar mujer de Conani ni Circunvalacion a casarse". Yep, its cold man, but thats what you are going to get. A woman who makes herself the center of the relationship, but only complains about what you AINT doing luxuriously in excess. I ve known this woman for a year and since last August nothing in her life has gotten better. If guys were falling out of the sky to marry her they would have done it already. I didnt mean to burn her, because I really wanted to hit it again, but she was a selfish, egocentric woman and I clearly understood that apart from crushing her I wanted nothing to do with her. This woman was a toy to me and I knew it. But I dont know if you guys see that sometimes. This is why you have more than 1 in this country, in your city.
But THIS, its guys like you that mess the curve up. You re the kind of guy who gets Yacht Chef all confused because he is interacting with the women who know you by proxy or by 3rd person fairy tale. You meet a girl, she gives you a sob story you give her money(and its not just a measly amount like $25, but a whole flipping lot). Now she goes back to her best friend and says "He s rich." The excuses get stupider and you start to feel you re being played. You dump her, by text or some bulldung lie and cut your losses. Then he meets the same woman and she figures he is out to give me money also but he cant shake the woman. Now she setting him up to get robbed and stealing his stuff, under the guise that "its nothing to him, he cant just get more". Now he s doing the same thing, breaking up with a woman by text just to get far enough away from her and get it through her head that he doesnt want to see her anymore. Now I meet her and all I hear are lies. Either this woman has the worst luck in the world or she thinks everyone exists to put her on a pedestal. Its usually the latter which ameliorates every good situation she had bringing the former to fruition. Some one said here or in the other thread that the prettier the girl the worse her personality is and to a certain extent its true. Some of you guys are so goofy that you come here to this country and start drooling over these woman and they see it and it stereotypes their impression of you.
Love? Love yourself and make everyone else earn yours. Not with ass or a pretty face. Look for compatibility. THIS, you dont even speak the same language as the woman so you have no idea if you have compatibility. You other guys? I dont know, you want to hear that you can make it work with any woman. Maybe, but you always to be reserved. That where the time factor comes in. Given enough time, which you guys seem loathe to do, you can find out where this womans head is. But you guys never do that. Its as though if I dont lock her down now, someone else will. 1st of all, if someone was going to lock her down they did it, or would have done it already, and 2. If your relationship is founded on physical attraction primarily or solely then you d be better off extending your trip and not locking anything down at all.
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THISDRLOVE/BIGBOY21 is a troll and a sock puppet. He's even managed to hijack his own thread!!!
How funny that he began flirting with another poster the second the opportunity presented itself, meanwhile he's SOOOOOOOOO devoted to his DR chica.
And to those who think no one can be this naive, I've seen guys act like idiots in the DR with my own eyes, but they never come online and show themselves so blatantly.
Out of respect to the many great posters who have offered advice out of the goodness of their hearts, please stop feeding this pathetic troll.
How funny that he began flirting with another poster the second the opportunity presented itself, meanwhile he's SOOOOOOOOO devoted to his DR chica.
And to those who think no one can be this naive, I've seen guys act like idiots in the DR with my own eyes, but they never come online and show themselves so blatantly.
Out of respect to the many great posters who have offered advice out of the goodness of their hearts, please stop feeding this pathetic troll.
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