500,000 this year ?

chico bill

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So you have legally sponsored hundreds of them by signing your name on government sponsorship documents and putting your financial support behind them to be legal?

Great! Otherwise we are talking about apples and oranges. I stand fast that illegals should be deported. Nothing less.
I could care less what limited support you likely provided, it has zero to do with this topic.
Where have you legally signed papers to sponsor immigrants Winde? This is quite interesting.
Because last time I checked you must be actually residing within the borders of the US in order to sign sponsorship form I-864. It also requires proof of financial stability of $25,000 annually per person {so $150K annually for 6) and requires you to provide them with a health insurance policy if they do not have it by other means.
Not living as a permanent residence or updating the place of your physical residence withing the US or it's territories and signing such a document would make a person subject to serious penalties.
You are also responsible for any sponsored immigrants until they either get their citizenship, die or work 40 quarters (120 months) as credited to their social security.
 

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That wasn’t my point.. construction will go to standstill general labour market in construction is already in trouble :cautious:
May be the lack of labour will increase wages and cause more Dominicans to take up construction jobs (might not be a good thing though, given the quality of construction I have seen so far)
 

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I can sympathize with the anger of people in the US who see immigrants being put up in hotels, getting vouchers and in some cases up to $4,000 monthly in government benefits and free legal counsel and Governors falling over themselves to give them "sanctuary protection".
But Haitians flee a country with zero opportunity, where people are executed by machete, guns or burned to death because some zombie ganglord's child gets sick.
They do this with no more than the possibility of working in the hot sun balancing avocados or bananas on their head or a rack of cell phone cases to hopefully make maybe 500 pesos per day.
They get no luxury hotel nor get to bed down in a school gym or airport. They rely on shear belief in themselves, God or friends support to get through each day and not return to be struck down by stray bullets or machete in Haiti.
They certainly aren't ideal citizens but they are humans deserving of something slightly more from all of us than the back of our hand or utter contempt.
 

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May be the lack of labour will increase wages and cause more Dominicans to take up construction jobs (might not be a good thing though, given the quality of construction I have seen so far)
Pay has increased substantially last few yrs in construction labour…a Haitian can have any job a Dominican doesn’t want or will ruin his shinny shoes ;)
 
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Where have you legally signed papers to sponsor immigrants Winde? This is quite interesting.
Because last time I checked you must be actually residing within the borders of the US in order to sign sponsorship form I-864. It also requires proof of financial stability of $25,000 annually per person {so $150K annually for 6) and requires you to provide them with a health insurance policy if they do not have it by other means.
Not living as a permanent residence or updating the place of your physical residence withing the US or it's territories and signing such a document would make a person subject to serious penalties.
You are also responsible for any sponsored immigrants until they either get their citizenship, die or work 40 quarters (120 months) as credited to their social security.
In the USofA. I sponsored 4 Sri Lankans and 2 Dominicans to live as legal residents there. Recall that I used to actually live in the USA before I moved here.
Check all you want, it is a fact as to what I did. When I was working in California I easily made the requisite dinero.
 

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In the USofA. I sponsored 4 Sri Lankans and 2 Dominicans to live as legal residents there. Recall that I used to actually live in the USA before I moved here.
Check all you want, it is a fact as to what I did. When I was working in California I easily made the requisite dinero.
Congratulations on your earnings.
 
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chico bill

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In the USofA. I sponsored 4 Sri Lankans and 2 Dominicans to live as legal residents there. Recall that I used to actually live in the USA before I moved here.
Check all you want, it is a fact as to what I did. When I was working in California I easily made the requisite dinero.
You are still responsible for them
 

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May be the lack of labour will increase wages and cause more Dominicans to take up construction jobs (might not be a good thing though, given the quality of construction I have seen so far)
Exactly. And if they won't then it won't be built. And that is all good.
 

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You are still responsible for them
Not true in my case. At least 2 have become US citizens and one of them is a Bank Finance Manager to boot. The others I lost touch with, but the father of the Sri Lankan family of 4 was a VP of a Chinese shipping company when I sponsored that family over 25 years ago to live in LA (could be some fires there now) . I would suspect they are all naturalized US citizens by now. I never heard a peep from Uncle Sam.

But yes, I was responsible up for a period of time long since gone by. Such sponsorship of people being legal in the USA does have its responsibilities beyond just "helping someone" from time to time...

By signing Form I-864, you are entering into an enforceable contract with the United States government. Your obligations under this contract do not end until the immigrant has either:

  • become a U.S. citizen
  • earned 40 work quarters in the United States (as defined by the Social Security Administration; this works out to approximately 10 years)
  • died, or
  • permanently left the United States.
 
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Congratulations on your earnings.
It is how I was able to retire here in the DR in 2003, going on 22 years ago, when I was 48.
Had I not left the northeast for California, I might still be working today. I have friends I went to high school with that still are.
 
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chico bill

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Quality of construction depends a lot on the guy in charge.
And the people in charge in DR have very little responsibility after they leave L. Try to get them back for faulty work once they are paid - good luck.
And the developers doing urbanizations are worse. No planning for proper drainage or durable roads or sewerage control. You can see even new urbanizations flooding and with crumbling roads and broken curbs and sidewalks
 
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chico bill

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Not true in my case. At least 2 have become US citizens and one of them is a Bank Finance Manager to boot. The others I lost touch with, but the father of the Sri Lankan family of 4 was a VP of a Chinese shipping company when I sponsored that family over 25 years ago to live in LA (could be some fires there now) . I would suspect they are all naturalized US citizens by now. I never heard a peep from Uncle Sam.

But yes, I was responsible up for a period of time long since gone by. Such sponsorship of people being legal in the USA does have its responsibilities beyond just "helping someone" from time to time...
So why were you willing to sponsor people trying to improve their lives years ago and you don't reach out to help some Haitians now?
 

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So why were you willing to sponsor people trying to improve their lives years ago and you don't reach out to help some Haitians now?
Because they were family. I help my family in the DR as well.

I didn't help illegal immigrants in the USA and I won't help them here. But that is just me. They should be deported.

If people want to help Haitians, I suggest HELPING THEM IN HAITI .
All Illegals should be deported to their home countries.

I hope that clarifies my position.