An Ideal Vehicle for All DR

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I was waiting for somebody (a Brit) to jump in and defend themselves....

and the reviews are very favorable....
 

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The Qashqai has been built at Nissan's Nissan Motor Manufacturing UK (NMUK) Sunderland, Tyne and Wear plant since December 2006. It is the first model to be styled by Nissan Design Europe in London, with engineering development led by Nissan Technical Centre Europe (NTCE) in Cranfield, Bedfordshire.

Check the door panel & VIN where they were built. I think most of the Qahiqai 2 models are coming from Dongfeng Nissan in China. Others coming to the DR may not be from China (but Europe) and in 2015 they started to be built in Russia (I don't think Russia can produce for export, as most people worldwide wouldn't gamble on a Russian-made vehicles, they are notorious for poor quality (The Lada & Volga). ?)

From Nissan-Global web page: "Total global production of the new Qashqai now tops 2.5 million, with the first generation Qashqai also made by Nissan in China and Japan. From 2015 the new Qashqai will also be manufactured in Nissan’s plant in St. Petersburg for domestic sales in Russia."

Owner's reviews:http://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/nissan/qashqai/hatchback/owner-reviews
 
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Check the door panel & VIN where they were built. I think most of the Qahiqai 2 models are coming from Dongfeng Nissan in China. Others coming to the DR may not be from China (but Europe) and in 2015 they started to be built in Russia (I don't think Russia can produce for export, as most people worldwide wouldn't gamble on a Russian-made vehicles, they are notorious for poor quality (The Lada & Volga). ?)

From Nissan-Global web page: "Total global production of the new Qashqai now tops 2.5 million, with the first generation Qashqai also made by Nissan in China and Japan. From 2015 the new Qashqai will also be manufactured in Nissan’s plant in St. Petersburg for domestic sales in Russia."

Owner's reviews:http://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/nissan/qashqai/hatchback/owner-reviews

Overall, not very good marks from owners of the vehicle in the U.K.

But without drilling down further, that could be from one model year hiccups or one particular type of engine issues.


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Check the door panel & VIN where they were built. I think most of the Qahiqai 2 models are coming from Dongfeng Nissan in China. Others coming to the DR may not be from China (but Europe) and in 2015 they started to be built in Russia (I don't think Russia can produce for export, as most people worldwide wouldn't gamble on a Russian-made vehicles, they are notorious for poor quality (The Lada & Volga). ?)

From Nissan-Global web page: "Total global production of the new Qashqai now tops 2.5 million, with the first generation Qashqai also made by Nissan in China and Japan. From 2015 the new Qashqai will also be manufactured in Nissan’s plant in St. Petersburg for domestic sales in Russia."

Owner's reviews:http://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/nissan/qashqai/hatchback/owner-reviews

Nissan has plants in Mexico and Brazil.

Perhaps many imported new cars tp DR do come from Latin countries. A lot of car products such as tires come from Latin America.
 

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It is interesting that we are discussing the merits of new Kia, Hyundai and Nissan models rather than Toyota as cost effective options for a car suited for al DR.

Clearly the sales data suggest that Dominicans are leaning that way.

And when you drive the length of the country north to south, as I did today and you are consciously looking for vehicle makes, you realize that the majority of the newer vehicles are indeed from those companies with a number of more sleekly designed versions by Toyota and Honda too. Even saw some year versions of the Qashqai.

I suspect the global trend, and we are seeing it here, is that SUV's are being made more aerodynamic at all sizes for the global market. Less of the box shape and more of a move to flatter profile. Range Rover and Jeep has moved this way and even Toyota are heading that way with their newer models as it shows in their next Prado.

If you look at the older SUV's, and there is a year by year record to see on DR roads, the older versions are looking very dated compared with the new aerodynamic designs out there especially in the smaller SUV range.

It is a clear trend and whilst I am sure there will always be a market for the larger older SUV's in DR with plenty a Dominican wanting to get onto the car ownership ladder with this type of vehicle especially with blackened windows, the future trend seems clear.

Good input and very useful contributions for those moving here or here and wanting to get a new car.
 
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Well, fortunately Nissans, Kias and Hyundais fare quite well in safety testing. 

The Gorgon is the expert here, but the truth is most late model brands are largely similar in terms of general performance, safety and durability. There really isn't that much difference between entry-level cars or light trucks from the major manufacturers. 

Of course, that's because the midsize car and light truck categories are so competitive, a substandard product wouldn't last very long in the market.
No sir. There is alot of difference between models that compete in the same category. It is all wrapped up in the warranty. Toyota makes you pay for extra time on that warranty. Kia and Hyundai give it to you. They also guarantee the resale value of your old car, Honda doesnt do that at all. Furthermore, as good as Honda cars are their trucks follow through with that reputation until comparative durability tests are conducted with fleet owners and they arent that good. There are areas where the makers get high points and there are spots where they fall short.

Even unpopular cars can thrive in the market with enough incentives to attract indifferent buyers.

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ju10

crossover is the genre you're looking at....the sleeker SUV type.

A conversion from a sedan to a roomier style .

Correct me if I'm misstating something
 
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you have summed it up with very few words. there is no longer the gap between cars like there was in the 80s. when Hyundai made the Pony, it was a joke compared to a Toyota Corolla. nowadays, the Avanti can compete heads up with a Corolla, at a far lower asking price.
Come on now...the Avanti's far lower asking price is itself indicative of lower quality. In that category Corolla, Civic and Ford Focus rule, Nissan Sentra in there somewhere. I mean in Long Term Viability. Those cars can still command 4 digits(US) at 8 years old with 160,000 miles. H/Ks? Nah...you can ask but you re talking scrap value there, 3 digits.

In every class the H/K are "cute" but not really competitive. They are swell values. You get a buttload of automobile for your purchase price but no, reality check, the Genesis G80 will NOT command the price, new or used that a Lexus LS460 will. It may top out at the best Buick on the showroom floor, maybe...

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I'm getting to the point where I drive them further than I used to... less trading in

RD cars are 2005 - 65,000mi, 2008/9 - 46,000mi

Even Can/USA 2012 - 54,000mi
 
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As it is not sold in the US, I do not have access to safety data for the Quashkai.....but the Rogue performed very well over the last few years.

But reliance on past data is not effective or reliable as new models/design changes come out.

Suffice to say 2015-2017 Rogues are good safety bets....but may not necessarily be at the top of their game quality or resale wise.

Example: Dodge Dart was a stellar performer in the safety tests.............but dismal in quality and resale.....and has been discontinued. Your 15,000 Dodge Dart lost 1/3 of its value in the first year....in spite of being a top safety pick.

Individuals need to priortize their wants/needs and not rely on blanket statements like all Toyotas, Nissans, or Honda's or Hyundai's are great. There are often large gaps, depending upon year, make, model....even within manufacturers.


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Dodge Darts core problem was the 9speed automatic tranny that suffered a guilty conscious of never being able to decide what gear it wanted to be in. Otherwise it was a great car. Same debacle killed the 200. Fiat isnt good at engineering so they cornhole all good Chrysler ideas into oblivion.

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I want a medium SUV with good gas mileage, CRV too small and expensive. RAV 4 too small, poor mileage and way over priced. The Sportage, Santa Fe and Rogue OK - but Rogue gas mileage may not be as good.
I want the reliability and ride of the old Rodeos (mileage not so great). I wish Isuzu Japan was still exporting SUVs, and they weren't partnered with GM. When you are paying $4.50 a gallon mileage is too important to ignore
 
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It is interesting that we are discussing the merits of new Kia, Hyundai and Nissan models rather than Toyota as cost effective options for a car suited for al DR.

Within their types, they all come in at about the same price. Kia Spotage, Hyundai Tucson, Nissan Rogue, Toyota Rav 4, Subaru Forrester all come in with base prices of $22-23K USD.

And the two with the highest overall scores are Forrester and Rav4.

And when you drive the length of the country north to south, as I did today and you are consciously looking for vehicle makes, you realize that the majority of the newer vehicles are indeed from those companies with a number of more sleekly designed versions by Toyota and Honda too. Even saw some year versions of the Qashqai.

What you are likely seeing is more crossover SUV's than anything. The original SUV's were nothing more than car bodies appended onto a truck chassis. Crossovers start with a car chassis and build from there.


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It is interesting that we are discussing the merits of new Kia, Hyundai and Nissan models rather than Toyota as cost effective options for a car suited for al DR.

Clearly the sales data suggest that Dominicans are leaning that way.

And when you drive the length of the country north to south, as I did today and you are consciously looking for vehicle makes, you realize that the majority of the newer vehicles are indeed from those companies with a number of more sleekly designed versions by Toyota and Honda too. Even saw some year versions of the Qashqai.

I suspect the global trend, and we are seeing it here, is that SUV's are being made more aerodynamic at all sizes for the global market. Less of the box shape and more of a move to flatter profile. Range Rover and Jeep has moved this way and even Toyota are heading that way with their newer models as it shows in their next Prado.

If you look at the older SUV's, and there is a year by year record to see on DR roads, the older versions are looking very dated compared with the new aerodynamic designs out there especially in the smaller SUV range.

It is a clear trend and whilst I am sure there will always be a market for the larger older SUV's in DR with plenty a Dominican wanting to get onto the car ownership ladder with this type of vehicle especially with blackened windows, the future trend seems clear.

Good input and very useful contributions for those moving here or here and wanting to get a new car.
SUVs globally have this new blob shape because they arent used a trucks in most markets but station wagons. We are at the point where the same car can be in two different categories on two different continents, a Subaru dealie, where there is a base model 2wd car, and the their Outback version of every model they make. Mercedes does that now as does Fiat-Chrysler.

The diminishing "TruckNess" of modern SUVs will make them safer on the road for inside occupants but less durable and capable of things the old LandCruiser FJ, Defender, and Grand Wagoneer used to be able to do. They merely offer higher ground clearance now, but with huge wheels, computer managed all wheel drive and odd gear ratios they arent as useful for climbing the trail to Pico Duarte.

Best car for DR?
Old:
A. Jeep Cherokee XJ
B. Chevy S10 Blazer
C. Ford Explorer

New:
A. Jeep Cherokee KK/KL
B. Ford Ranger
C. Ford Escape
D. Ford Explorer

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ju10

crossover is the genre you're looking at....the sleeker SUV type.

A conversion from a sedan to a roomier style .

Correct me if I'm misstating something

Yes but maybe the point is sleeker and flatter year in year out.

The American market does not change as much as the global markets do and DR buyers are influenced by the USA but also increasingly the global trends which apply to Latin America too.

I am trying to keep the thread DR related. It has valuable insight into DR for readers.

Too easy for some to talk about cars without reference to DR and get this shut down or moved to OT. A fine line and thanks to mods we are still running and on track DR wise in general.
 

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I would also add that the global trend is more to fuel efficiency and indeed away from fossil fuels given longer time.

The Japanese and Koreans along with Europeans and Chinese will dictate more and more the car market for DR is my guess. And therefore the ideal new car going forward for all DR will be from one of those countries.

Toyota Prado seems the favorite for the more expensive larger SUV and will probably stay that way but at the crossover level the Kia, Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Suzuki are all in play and other marks are following the trend.
 

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New, good and cheap? Isuzu Dmax I would say.

Heart? Land Rover.

I have a Land Rover stateside. It's not a trouble free vehicle and it's hard enough to get it fixed right in the US. I would never buy anything that "exotic" in the DR.
Basically you should get something very simple, durable, parts are plentiful, and easy to work on: Toyota, Suzuki, Kia, etc.

And definitely, not a Ford. They are pure junk.
 

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I have a Discovery. It is not trouble free but mostly little things. I was happy to find a german meistermechaniker who only does 
Land Rovers. He is such an expert and has a lot of used parts. So no problem having a LR.

Ford indeed is junk, as a lot of american brands. They are hardly sold in Europe.
 

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I have a Discovery. It is not trouble free but mostly little things. I was happy to find a german meistermechaniker who only does 
Land Rovers. He is such an expert and has a lot of used parts. So no problem having a LR.

Ford indeed is junk, as a lot of american brands. They are hardly sold in Europe.

they are not sold at all in Japan..
 

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I have a Discovery. It is not trouble free but mostly little things. I was happy to find a german meistermechaniker who only does 
Land Rovers. He is such an expert and has a lot of used parts. So no problem having a LR.

Ford indeed is junk, as a lot of american brands. They are hardly sold in Europe.

I had a Disco and loved it. But every time I took it in for service I swore I was going to sell it, and I finally did.

It's up on the north coast now.
 

JD Jones

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I have a Discovery. It is not trouble free but mostly little things. I was happy to find a german meistermechaniker who only does 
Land Rovers. He is such an expert and has a lot of used parts. So no problem having a LR.

Ford indeed is junk, as a lot of american brands. They are hardly sold in Europe.

Duplicate.