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flyinroom

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Such verbal diarrhea is not becoming of a refined gentleman such as yourself, and that's Saunders with a capital. What's a gangsta, is that like a HR? Do you have anything of vale to say about the falseness of the video which I'm sure somebody though they were being clever in creating. Amazing how this woman has got inside the heads of so many people.

It's kind of strange that a guy with a user name of "bob saunders" insists on others capitalizing his name.......
 

the gorgon

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It's kind of strange that a guy with a user name of "bob saunders" insists on others capitalizing his name.......

you are missing the big picture, flyinroom. when you qualify to be a hood rat, you have to address your betters with due deference.
 

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What's really funny is the defensiveness. The Jarabacoan Crusaders claim not to be disciples of the woman, but just a cursory glance at this thread tells a very different story.

Babble. When something is wrong it is wrong. The video is a reasonable production until it gets to the violence and the racist comments, both of which are inaccurate description of her. Anyone who has read even a little of Rand's work, which all of you haters claim to have done, know that. I suppose a cursory glance would give you that impresion, just like a cursory glance at selective quotations would give you an inaccurate view of a person.
 

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What's really funny is the defensiveness. The Jarabacoan Crusaders claim not to be disciples of the woman, but just a cursory glance at this thread tells a very different story.
I follow no man but admire many.

My comments are less about Ayn Rand and more about the distortion of her philosophies either by intention or (most likely) ignorance.

Which group do YOU fall into, Comrade: ignorant or one who intentionally distorts what she said? My bet is on ignorance since I think-or hope, really-your character is above intentionally mangling a person's message.
 

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Such naivet? I would reserve for 14-year-olds, but on you is more like stupidity.
Stupidity?

Really, Bentot?

That's all you have?

I posted exact excerpts, within context, completely debunking your characterization of "racist" and all you can say is I'm naive and/or stupid?

:cheeky:

Too bad your ability to debate on substance is far below your style. But then again, it's just how you roll...

Bentot, your obsession in duly noted. Here, have one for your very own:

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Mauricio

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Correct.

To claim "objectivism" at 20 is predictable. To claim "objectivism" at 60 is plain idiocy.



No, the video is idiotic, I'm not giving a judgment on objectivism.

Kind of easy though to turn around the adagium: if you aren't a socialist at 20 you don't have a heart, if you still are a socialist at 40, you don't have a head.
 
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I follow no man but admire many.

My comments are less about Ayn Rand and more about the distortion of her philosophies either by intention or (most likely) ignorance.

Which group do YOU fall into, Comrade: ignorant or one who intentionally distorts what she said? My bet is on ignorance since I think-or hope, really-your character is above intentionally mangling a person's message.

There are those that disagree with her message without mangling it. Yes, I am above intentionally misrepresenting another's ideas. I just feel she was wrong. You feel she was right. I respect your intellectual autonomy as I hope you respect mine.
 

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There are those that disagree with her message without mangling it. Yes, I am above intentionally misrepresenting another's ideas. I just feel she was wrong. You feel she was right. I respect your intellectual autonomy as I hope you respect mine.
Then educate yourself before posting rubbish.

It's that simple.

You may ~want~ to believe certain concepts; but they may not be true.

Additionally, you haven't read Rand. How on earth can you possibly make a value judgement ("she's wrong") when you have no direct knowledge of what she opined within HER context?

You may *want* her to be wrong. That I understand. Because if she is even 50% "correct" in her view of men's relationships with other sovereign men, and how sovereign men choose to organize themselves within a civil society then your collectivist views are shattered.
 

the gorgon

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Then educate yourself before posting rubbish.

It's that simple.

You may ~want~ to believe certain concepts; but they may not be true.

Additionally, you haven't read Rand. How on earth can you possibly make a value judgement ("she's wrong") when you have no direct knowledge of what she opined within HER context?

You may *want* her to be wrong. That I understand. Because if she is even 50% "correct" in her view of men's relationships with other sovereign men, and how sovereign men choose to organize themselves within a civil society then your collectivist views are shattered.

cobraboy, having studied your style of dealing with other people in this site, i begin to formulate certain possibilities that might have some bearing upon your personality disorder. i begin to feel sorry for your disappointment that your chance to go to Vietnam and blow folks away was ruined by an errant basketball, so you have this storehouse of vitriol and venom which has to have an outlet. either that, or you just have a dictatorial streak in you, which cannot tolerate the irrational notion that other people should be able to express antipodal opinions without having to run for cover , tail between legs, before the big bad cobraboy thunders in, kicking ass, and taking names. as a poster stated yesterday...it seem like you need to smoke a joint, and chill. that came from a lady. from where i stand, getting high is not the issue. you sound like a guy who needs to get laid.
 

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cobraboy, having studied your style of dealing with other people in this site, i begin to formulate certain possibilities that might have some bearing upon your personality disorder. i begin to feel sorry for your disappointment that your chance to go to Vietnam and blow folks away was ruined by an errant basketball, so you have this storehouse of vitriol and venom which has to have an outlet. either that, or you just have a dictatorial streak in you, which cannot tolerate the irrational notion that other people should be able to express antipodal opinions without having to run for cover , tail between legs, before the big bad cobraboy thunders in, kicking ass, and taking names. as a poster stated yesterday...it seem like you need to smoke a joint, and chill. that came from a lady. from where i stand, getting high is not the issue. you sound like a guy who needs to get laid.
All you have to do, gorgon, is prove me wrong. But I also understand you're just another "style" over substance guy.

If the "antipodal" opinions have merit they can stand on their own, and nothing can tear them down.

Maybe I'll formulate a hypothesis on your "personality disorder" that sees a racist in anyone who disagrees with you or criticizes Obama, or makes classy remarks about a posters' wife.

You guys seem to like dishing it out, but curl into a fetal ball crying for Mommy when it comes back...
 

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Ayn Rand for Lovers, part 2.

[video=youtube;VyDaz0MFg88]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyDaz0MFg88[/video]
 

the gorgon

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All you have to do, gorgon, is prove me wrong. But I also understand you're just another "style" over substance guy.

If the "antipodal" opinions have merit they can stand on their own, and nothing can tear them down.

Maybe I'll formulate a hypothesis on your "personality disorder" that sees a racist in anyone who disagrees with you or criticizes Obama, or makes classy remarks about a posters' wife.

You guys seem to like dishing it out, but curl into a fetal ball crying for Mommy when it comes back...

no, cobraboy, i only react that way to hypocritical loudmouths, who operate with double standards, who have no abiding sense of right and wrong, but are really little more than shallow moral opportunists. you cry foul when i make reference to saunders's wife, but find it perfectly acceptable when saunders calls me by a racial epithet. i did not see too much outrage from you there. you did not seem to see anything less than even handed when i got banned, and he went unscathed. save the high ground for those who can ascend it, cobraboy. as to the little matter of running for mama....i might have done so, maybe i still do, and maybe i will , in the future. rest assured, you will not be the reason.
 

the gorgon

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All you have to do, gorgon, is prove me wrong. But I also understand you're just another "style" over substance guy.

If the "antipodal" opinions have merit they can stand on their own, and nothing can tear them down.

Maybe I'll formulate a hypothesis on your "personality disorder" that sees a racist in anyone who disagrees with you or criticizes Obama, or makes classy remarks about a posters' wife.

You guys seem to like dishing it out, but curl into a fetal ball crying for Mommy when it comes back...

prove you wrong? then what? you cut and run. like you did when you made your ridiculous argument trying to correlate illegitimacy and poverty?
 

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was that you in action in some war zone? or do you prefer the relative safety of a computer keyboard?
Some say riding a motersickel 750 miles around the DR IS akin to the safety of a war zone.

:cheeky:

Besides, pie throwing while wearing clown gear is a tad risky anywhere. But of course I used an assault pie...guaranteed by the 3.1417th Amendment...;)
 

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prove you wrong? then what? you cut and run. like you did when you made your ridiculous argument trying to correlate illegitimacy and poverty?
Just prove me wrong, gorgon.

Make it stick.

I never ran. It was YOU that went all "parsey" in the illegitimacy-->poverty issue. I posted stat after stat, many gleaned from the US Census and scholarly papers.

I especially liked your "black female PhD's having illegitimate spawn by choice" as an example. Quite the effort. Classic gorgon. Maybe worth a revisit...:cheeky:

You just don't like the connection.
 

Lucifer

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War zone? cb, you know NOTHING about war zone. Had a little High School "basketball injury," which kept you away from 8 weeks of Basic Training but not bad enough to keep away from playing college and pro football?????????????????????

That sh!t doesn't add up.

You do better when you defend Ayn Rand's crap.
 
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