Makes you wonder what's coming next. Do we think the pharma bros are going to give up so fast? They and their rain makers are banking on this.Cases are falling. The peak has already come and gone
Makes you wonder what's coming next. Do we think the pharma bros are going to give up so fast? They and their rain makers are banking on this.Cases are falling. The peak has already come and gone
Interesting. Hyper-dosing on unprecedented genetic vaccines. Makes you wonder what's coming down the human DNA pike at this rate. Remember the movie where a "scientist" was playing with extrahuman Genetic material? Didn't work out so well for him. BzzzzzzzzI am waiting for governments to enforce time limits upon vaccine "expirations" for travel. Even then I might not travel until such a rule goes away. That is the only way I might be forced to get a 5th shot. Otherwise I am 4 and done.
For those of touting money as a driving factor in health care -
How is would that be addressed in socialized medicine countries ?
Windy... you're talking HUGE money - given the cost of the US health system.Going to the US for treatment from Canada as one example.
In a couple of months, I think this is going to be a moot point as peak CV19 should be "here" soon.
Windy... you're talking HUGE money - given the cost of the US health system.
The various provinces actually fly sick people home from FLA to avoid the exorbitant costs.
Since I wrote - I see EcoMan has added a wrinkle to it...... it shows the desperation and crowded hospitals
My wife's uncle was flown back to ON by the province from FLA....
They wouldn't pay for his care in Naples
I assume doctors everywhere must take the Hippocratic oath derived from Greece ?
So there should be no doubt that they should not bar treatment.
It is only because of politics that they have been shaped, threatened, literally had financial cudgels hung over their heads, denied hospital access or had licenses threatened that they would come to any other conclusion that to administer to the sick.
The World will look back soon to regret many actions taken in this scamdemic
The Hippocratic Oath (Modern Version)I SWEAR in the presence of the Almighty and before my family, my teachers and my peers that according to my ability and judgment I will keep this Oath and Stipulation.
TO RECKON all who have taught me this art equally dear to me as my parents and in the same spirit and dedication to impart a knowledge of the art of medicine to others. I will continue with diligence to keep abreast of advances in medicine. I will treat without exception all who seek my ministrations, so long as the treatment of others is not compromised thereby, and I will seek the counsel of particularly skilled physicians where indicated for the benefit of my patient.
I WILL FOLLOW that method of treatment which according to my ability and judgment, I consider for the benefit of my patient and abstain from whatever is harmful or mischievous. I will neither prescribe nor administer a lethal dose of medicine to any patient even if asked nor counsel any such thing nor perform the utmost respect for every human life from fertilization to natural death and reject abortion that deliberately takes a unique human life.
WITH PURITY, HOLINESS AND BENEFICENCE I will pass my life and practice my art. Except for the prudent correction of an imminent danger, I will neither treat any patient nor carry out any research on any human being without the valid informed consent of the subject or the appropriate legal protector thereof, understanding that research must have as its purpose the furtherance of the health of that individual. Into whatever patient setting I enter, I will go for the benefit of the sick and will abstain from every voluntary act of mischief or corruption and further from the seduction of any patient.
WHATEVER IN CONNECTION with my professional practice or not in connection with it I may see or hear in the lives of my patients which ought not be spoken abroad, I will not divulge, reckoning that all such should be kept secret. WHILE I CONTINUE to keep this Oath unviolated may it be granted to me to enjoy life and the practice of the art and science of medicine with the blessing of the Almighty and respected by my peers and society, but should I trespass and violate this Oath, may the reverse by my lot.
Since the above is not used, it is a moot point.The Physician’s Pledge
AS A MEMBER OF THE MEDICAL PROFESSION:
I SOLEMNLY PLEDGE to dedicate my life to the service of humanity;
THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF MY PATIENT will be my first consideration;
I WILL RESPECT the autonomy and dignity of my patient;
I WILL MAINTAIN the utmost respect for human life;
I WILL NOT PERMIT considerations of age, disease or disability, creed, ethnic origin, gender, nationality, political affiliation, race, sexual orientation, social standing or any other factor to intervene between my duty and my patient;
I WILL RESPECT the secrets that are confided in me, even after the patient has died;
I WILL PRACTISE my profession with conscience and dignity and in accordance with good medical practice;
I WILL FOSTER the honour and noble traditions of the medical profession;
I WILL GIVE to my teachers, colleagues, and students the respect and gratitudSince e that is their due;
I WILL SHARE my medical knowledge for the benefit of the patient and the advancement of healthcare;
I WILL ATTEND TO my own health, well-being, and abilities in order to provide care of the highest standard;
I WILL NOT USE my medical knowledge to violate human rights and civil liberties, even under threat;
I MAKE THESE PROMISES solemnly, freely, and upon my honour.
Canada has a patchwork of triage policies but most follow a fairly standard checklist of priorities designed to maximize benefits and minimize loss of life. Doctors first decide which patients have the best chances of pulling through. If they have to choose between two patients needing treatment and facing roughly equal odds of survival, they'll usually give priority to the patient they judge to have the most years of life ahead of them.
"Where I see some disagreement within the community of bioethicists is precisely on this point — can we use vaccination status as one criterion within triage protocols?" said Ravitsky.
"If we have two patients with the same level of clinical need, same age, same context, but one is vaccinated and one isn't, could we de-prioritize the patient who is unvaccinated by choice? There is a minority of bioethicists who are becoming more accepting of this logic at this point in time."
Actually the vaxed patient would probably not need the ventilator so the more prudent move would to put the unvaxed on the ventilator to try and save both.The above quote is copied from the o.p. (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pandemic-covid-vaccine-triage-omicron-1.6319844)
If I am an emergency room physician and two people present in my emergency department.
Both are experiencing respiratory difficulty.
One is vaxxed and the other is not.
I have access to only only one ventilator.
I choose to put the vaxxed patient on the ventilator.
Could it not be argued that, based on historical statistical trends, my vaxxed patient has a better chance of survival than does my unvaxxed patient...
That the decision taken to de-prioritize the unvaxxed was not a punishment or consequence of his/her choice to not vax but rather a simple reality that the vaxxed had a better chance of survival and thus had more years of life ahead of them?
Which tactic of yours is this? Or is this just to keep SKY and Zoom revelling in their model?Here's a beauty
Man denied heart transplant because he won’t get vaccinated against COVID
A man at death’s door has been denied a heart transplant because he refuses to get vaccinated against COVID-19.www.aol.com
You know i think of you as a rich uncle that may some day loan me a fortune but what I see you doing is posting controversy and basically telling the forum to "have at it". Entertain me and let's hear your side of the ethics question. How do you feel about the guy denied of the heart transplant? Do you feel vaxxed should be triaged first? Love ya W²!Just an FYI, Hijo.... keeping you up to speed
Classic, just classic.... more to come , for sure