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Smaller towns can have a disproportionately high crime rate because of tourism and/or many gringo residents.
Thus, I think, applies to Sos?a, Boca Chica and Las Terrenas.
BTW, those are the areas where LF introduced his programme of more security...
No coincident, right?
m'frog
diego2000 said:
Smaller towns can have a disproportionately high crime rate because of tourism and/or many gringo residents.
Thus, I think, applies to Sos?a, Boca Chica and Las Terrenas.
BTW, those are the areas where LF introduced his programme of more security...
No coincident, right?
m'frog
Reaching 100 posts, congrats!
I am not sure what you are attempting to write here. It's a good start and a great way to reach 100 posts. However, allow me to try and address your sarcasm. The building we own houses lot's of electronics, high end furniture and our office. If you have been reading the posts here on this site (and I am sure that you have by the intelligent manner you posted) then you would understand. You would not entrust something like this to a drunken watchieman or a flimsy little lock on a plywood door would you...or would you? The other items you are rambling on about I cannot even begin to figure out.
With ridiculous posts like yours you are surely on your way to becoming either extinct here or the new class clown. Best wishes!
frndms said:
I am not sure what you are attempting to write here. It's a good start and a great way to reach 100 posts. However, allow me to try and address your sarcasm. The building we own houses lot's of electronics, high end furniture and our office. If you have been reading the posts here on this site (and I am sure that you have by the intelligent manner you posted) then you would understand. You would not entrust something like this to a drunken watchieman or a flimsy little lock on a plywood door would you...or would you? The other items you are rambling on about I cannot even begin to figure out.
With ridiculous posts like yours you are surely on your way to becoming either extinct here or the new class clown. Best wishes!
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PlantaFull,
My little angel was accepted to the Carol Morgan.
I did research a little and the school sounds and look pretty good (went and checked it out last January)
We do live in a suburban middle upper class community in Dallas, TX
Extremely safe and family friendly.
I love the idea of my daughter acquiring the best education we could afford.
The US education it is not as good as some people believe.
Even private schools (my dither goes to one).
They are very expensive for what they offer to the kids.
I've experience education in and out side the US and in my opinion, there is a difference.
also, my husband and I want to have more time with my daughter, that is the main reason we want to move.
As you may know, if one wants to afford a decent mid-class life style in the state.
one must work their little behind off.
so, basically the school is raising our child for us.
thank so much for your inside.
I truly appreciated.!!
My little angel was accepted to the Carol Morgan.
I did research a little and the school sounds and look pretty good (went and checked it out last January)
We do live in a suburban middle upper class community in Dallas, TX
Extremely safe and family friendly.
I love the idea of my daughter acquiring the best education we could afford.
The US education it is not as good as some people believe.
Even private schools (my dither goes to one).
They are very expensive for what they offer to the kids.
I've experience education in and out side the US and in my opinion, there is a difference.
also, my husband and I want to have more time with my daughter, that is the main reason we want to move.
As you may know, if one wants to afford a decent mid-class life style in the state.
one must work their little behind off.
so, basically the school is raising our child for us.
thank so much for your inside.
I truly appreciated.!!
damyb said:
That is a very good school from all I know and as long as you and your family get used to the enviroment you will love it here. Some adjustments in "lifestyle" are needed as trying to live an American-lifestyle here will often lead to frustration. These "changes" are really hard to put into words or describe, at first they may even seem annoying, but they can definitly lead to a happier and more relaxed life.
In Today'd "Diario Libre"!
41 Dominican policemen killed in the line of duty since January first! That includes 21 in Santo Domingo alone!!
"LOCK & LOAD"!!!!!!!!
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41 Dominican policemen killed in the line of duty since January first! That includes 21 in Santo Domingo alone!!
"LOCK & LOAD"!!!!!!!!
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Please, go for the 2 months. I was born in raised in Aruba, then at 14 moved to DR. I enjoyed all the freetime. Lunch and dinner together. In the afternoon every body dressed up and relax. Now I have children in NYC. I feel sorry for hem because they live in jail [apt] but they do not know what they are missing. Before they were born they broke in my apt., It was scary.
Enjoy DR. During the 2 months go around the neighborhood and explore. Be safe and enjoy.
If you do not like it you always can come back to US.
I am waiting to hear from you.
Good luck.
Enjoy DR. During the 2 months go around the neighborhood and explore. Be safe and enjoy.
If you do not like it you always can come back to US.
I am waiting to hear from you.
Good luck.
My sweet fiance won't wear the modest diamond engagement ring in public, for fear of being mugged. She is taking tae kwan do for her safety. That poor Vanessa who was murderes was in her family.
I have seen a large increase of crime in the last 3 years. They really train them well in NYC, don't they?
I have seen a large increase of crime in the last 3 years. They really train them well in NYC, don't they?
The overall concensus in this thread is do your homework and do it well prior to making your decision.
Personally, owning a house in the city of Santo Domingo is too much hassle, it's better to settle for an apartment/condo complex where the security is already provided by a collaboration of the residents in such complex. Also, homes tend to be sorrounded by cement walls and gates, which are built for cultural and safety reasons. However, keep in mind that just as effective as those gates and walls are to keep the riff raff out of your property, they can also keep potential help from reaching you in the event of a robbery. Since the walls and gates are rather high, no one from the outside will be able to see if someone is breaking into your home or not after they manage to get inside your property.
Apartment/condo complex are a big plus in this regard, but also make sure you investigate how effective the security is in whatever complex you may be interested in.
On another note: The worst thing about less and less foreigners moving to DR is that those who already live there will see a higher risk of being victims themselves. The more foreigners move to the DR, the more people will share the risk and the risk "per person" falls. In other words, the safety of each foreign and/or well to do person increases as the number of well to do people incresaes as well.
If you think of this in terms of ration between well to do and criminal, then it makes sense that the lower the well to do : criminal ratio the higher the risk of being a victim for each well to do member.
The higher the well to do : criminals ratio, the lower the risk of being a victim for each well to do member, because there will be more well to do peoples vs. criminals.
Under such circumstance, at any given time there could be a high number of well to do people criss crossing the city or country with potential criminals doing the same. The risk that a single well to do person will be a victim of crime at that particular time and place depends on how many other well to do people are out there at that time and how many criminals are on the search for their next victim.
Thus, the more well to do's the less the personal risk of being a victim, however the less the number of well to do people the higher the personal risk of being a victim.
In other words, if you are the only one with a little bit of money passing through an area filled with criminals, it's almost certain you will become a victim of crime. If, however, you are only one of many people with money passing through an area filled with criminals, the possibility that you will be a victim of crime decreases.
-NALs
Personally, owning a house in the city of Santo Domingo is too much hassle, it's better to settle for an apartment/condo complex where the security is already provided by a collaboration of the residents in such complex. Also, homes tend to be sorrounded by cement walls and gates, which are built for cultural and safety reasons. However, keep in mind that just as effective as those gates and walls are to keep the riff raff out of your property, they can also keep potential help from reaching you in the event of a robbery. Since the walls and gates are rather high, no one from the outside will be able to see if someone is breaking into your home or not after they manage to get inside your property.
Apartment/condo complex are a big plus in this regard, but also make sure you investigate how effective the security is in whatever complex you may be interested in.
On another note: The worst thing about less and less foreigners moving to DR is that those who already live there will see a higher risk of being victims themselves. The more foreigners move to the DR, the more people will share the risk and the risk "per person" falls. In other words, the safety of each foreign and/or well to do person increases as the number of well to do people incresaes as well.
If you think of this in terms of ration between well to do and criminal, then it makes sense that the lower the well to do : criminal ratio the higher the risk of being a victim for each well to do member.
The higher the well to do : criminals ratio, the lower the risk of being a victim for each well to do member, because there will be more well to do peoples vs. criminals.
Under such circumstance, at any given time there could be a high number of well to do people criss crossing the city or country with potential criminals doing the same. The risk that a single well to do person will be a victim of crime at that particular time and place depends on how many other well to do people are out there at that time and how many criminals are on the search for their next victim.
Thus, the more well to do's the less the personal risk of being a victim, however the less the number of well to do people the higher the personal risk of being a victim.
In other words, if you are the only one with a little bit of money passing through an area filled with criminals, it's almost certain you will become a victim of crime. If, however, you are only one of many people with money passing through an area filled with criminals, the possibility that you will be a victim of crime decreases.
Well, if we only know who the "they" are....cobraboy said:
-NALs
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OH man ... Nals, I can make a opposite position based in fact on each of your paragraphs in your post. I don't have the time for that stuff man... Reminds me of the tread/post that I ignored, where the conclusion is 'don't have burglar bars.... '. It was long convoluted story about 4 neighbors and burglar bars.... and the reasoning was quite comically flawed.NALs said:
Good night Nals... we're doing well in our neighborhood. So, I guess we will be the victim of burglary soon. Problem is, we work together in our neighborhood, so, if there is a threat to us, the rest of the community will act, as we would act if we saw anything untoward. Nals's contention is that if you are rich, living amongst the rich, the chances or probability that you could be a victim of crime, decrease. The possiblity of crime towards you, is lower if you are rich, living amongst the rich, he contends.
I agree fully. The rich do afford personal and other guards you know. So, my dear fellow, I believe you are quite correct in your statement. Anyone for another Pink Gin!
If I wanted I could have said what you said, however that is not what I am saying. Although, what YOU are saying via MY words is correct in itself.Chris said:
However, what I am saying is that the more number of potential victims exist in a place, the lower the possibility YOU will be a victim. Someone WILL be a victim under such example, but whether that victim will be YOU will be lowered as long as there are more people whom the criminal could victimize.
Consequently, the less potential victims exist then the possibility that YOU will be a victim of crime increases greatly because not only are there less potential victims, but there are more criminals for the smaller number of potential victims.
It's in your best interest to have the number of people of your social-economic status increase so that your own personal risk of being a victim falls. Otherwise, the risk of YOU being a victim will continue to rise as long as the number of criminals increases and the number of potential victims decreases simultaneously.
This is assuming all other things constant.
And the example I gave of the bars on windows was not meant to justify not using bars on windows, but rather to make all of you realize that as more people put bars on their windows the lower the effect such bars will have on deterring break ins. Thus, you must be always increasing your protection ahead of the crowd, because saturation equalizes all the risks levels that were reduced for the initial households that placed bars on their windows.
Think of this in terms of making a profit (the profit being lowering YOUR risk of being a victim). The best and most profitable point in a given market segment is during its beginning. Whatever company breaks into such market segment will make the highest profit margins. As more and more competition is created in that market segment, the profitability of first business decreases. The only way the first business could keep its profit margins high is by innovating and introducing to that market segment new products/services.
Now, think of that in terms of the bars on windows example and you will see the picture, hopefully.
Sie sollen lernen, anstatt zu fragen, nehmen an! (Where did I heared that before?)
:tired:
-NALs
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NYC is NOT a training ground for dominican criminals. The ones that are deported after spending time in jail here were IN jail for robbery, assault, murder and drugs.
They came to this country specifically for the purpose of committing crime.
And they came here from the DR with the intention on becoming criminals if they were'nt already.
But don't get paranoid-in Sao Palo, over 40 police officers were murdered in ONE WEEK earlier this year.
You can move there if you want to-just don't expect Shangri-La. Be prepared for a lifestyle MUCH different than what you experienced in Dallas.
As for me, the last place I would move to is the DR if I was raising a girl(if your child is a girl) for obvious cultural reasons. Dominicans treat their women like garbage and unless you plan on having her sequestered for most of her young life, expect this to be a problem that you cannot shield her from.
They came to this country specifically for the purpose of committing crime.
And they came here from the DR with the intention on becoming criminals if they were'nt already.
But don't get paranoid-in Sao Palo, over 40 police officers were murdered in ONE WEEK earlier this year.
You can move there if you want to-just don't expect Shangri-La. Be prepared for a lifestyle MUCH different than what you experienced in Dallas.
As for me, the last place I would move to is the DR if I was raising a girl(if your child is a girl) for obvious cultural reasons. Dominicans treat their women like garbage and unless you plan on having her sequestered for most of her young life, expect this to be a problem that you cannot shield her from.
The Return of "Professor BACKWARDS"!!!!!!!
Any "Oldtimers" from the USA remember "Professor Backwards"?? He was a comic who "Schtick" was to give loooooooooooong,seemingly intelligent "pseudo=lectures",which were actually just a bunch of "jibberish"!!! "WELL", heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesss Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak!
Anyone care to guess who I'm talking about???
It is the poor who are the vistims of most crime! Where does most crime take place,"Beverly Hills", or "East LA"??? Only "crime" in Beverly Hills is what they pay for a "Tummy-Tuck"!!!Crime against the wealthy is Headline News.Crime against the "Poor" is ,"Page Two" at best,"Un-Reported" at worst!!!
Since most crimes are crimes of opportunity,and the "Poor" live work and play together it is obvious where most crimes take place.
There was a "Political Cartoon" in a local Dominican paper here last week.A "Dominican" was criticising an "Arab-Muslim" for his killing of "Infidels" who wanted to attack his religious beliefs,culture,and "Way-of-Life". And the "Arab" responded by saying;"And in your country you kill people for their cell-phone"!!!!
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Soooooooooooooo, if I just get about 8 million "Rich" foreigners to move to the "DR",my odds of being a crime victim here will be just about the same as a "goat herder" from Monti Cristi"?????????:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
"Have I Got That RIGHT?????? "Professor"??????
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Any "Oldtimers" from the USA remember "Professor Backwards"?? He was a comic who "Schtick" was to give loooooooooooong,seemingly intelligent "pseudo=lectures",which were actually just a bunch of "jibberish"!!! "WELL", heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesss Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak!
Anyone care to guess who I'm talking about???
It is the poor who are the vistims of most crime! Where does most crime take place,"Beverly Hills", or "East LA"??? Only "crime" in Beverly Hills is what they pay for a "Tummy-Tuck"!!!Crime against the wealthy is Headline News.Crime against the "Poor" is ,"Page Two" at best,"Un-Reported" at worst!!!
Since most crimes are crimes of opportunity,and the "Poor" live work and play together it is obvious where most crimes take place.
There was a "Political Cartoon" in a local Dominican paper here last week.A "Dominican" was criticising an "Arab-Muslim" for his killing of "Infidels" who wanted to attack his religious beliefs,culture,and "Way-of-Life". And the "Arab" responded by saying;"And in your country you kill people for their cell-phone"!!!!
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Soooooooooooooo, if I just get about 8 million "Rich" foreigners to move to the "DR",my odds of being a crime victim here will be just about the same as a "goat herder" from Monti Cristi"?????????:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
"Have I Got That RIGHT?????? "Professor"??????
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You know who I mean: "them".johne said:
I'll claim partial responsibility for the FL cons shipped back to the DR.
Am I wrong to understand MOST-the vast majority-of "forced repatriated" Dominicans come from NYC and it's environs?
I dunno. For every 20 Yankee logo hats/T-Shirts/car window stickers I see, there is maybe one from someplace else.
I don't think I've ever seen a Buccaneer/Devil Ray or Chiefs/Royal logo anywhere.
You're right and wrong
But this is what is wrong with your posting--you allude to NYC teaching this scum all their tricks (crime) and that we here in NYC should share in the responsibilty of your problem. The fact is that the percentage of Dominicans returned is so small that it could not be a contributing factor in the increase in your crime rate. Your increase is caused by internal factors-we wont go thru all of that right now as you now thats complex. But what is not complex is that there are a lot of hungry, disparate people in the DR right now and they resort to crime to feed their bellies and perhaps, I dont know, their habit.
So, concentrate on the problems in the DR and let us here in NYC continue to send back the trash that have NO rights here at all-having broken our laws and are returned when the law of immigration is broken.
BTW--we dont return Dominicans that are our citizens. You know that of course? Just checking.These dirt bags are not our citizens.
JOHN
So the majority of trash is returned to the DR from NYC--of course. Look at the numbers. We have 8 million people here with about 800 000 Dominicans. So doesnt it make sense that NY would return to the DR the greatest number of dirt bags?cobraboy said:
But this is what is wrong with your posting--you allude to NYC teaching this scum all their tricks (crime) and that we here in NYC should share in the responsibilty of your problem. The fact is that the percentage of Dominicans returned is so small that it could not be a contributing factor in the increase in your crime rate. Your increase is caused by internal factors-we wont go thru all of that right now as you now thats complex. But what is not complex is that there are a lot of hungry, disparate people in the DR right now and they resort to crime to feed their bellies and perhaps, I dont know, their habit.
So, concentrate on the problems in the DR and let us here in NYC continue to send back the trash that have NO rights here at all-having broken our laws and are returned when the law of immigration is broken.
BTW--we dont return Dominicans that are our citizens. You know that of course? Just checking.These dirt bags are not our citizens.
JOHN
Dude-I'm American living in Tampa. I travel to the DR 6-8 times a year for a week at a time, and have many friends there. But my observations are primarily through the eyes of folks who live there. Certainly they know more about the situation that I do.johne said:
BTW-a young man from a middle-class family who shoots an 18 y.o. in the back for her cell phone-sold for 500 pesos-is NOT a "desperate person with a hungry belly". He's scum.
Much of NYC crime are also not desperate people with hungry bellies. It comes from fearless, anti-social elements looking for an easy way to make a living.