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Cangrejo bridge closed due to major structural failure.
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I understand that you are an apologist for gob.do
The simple fact is, that the bridge over the Rio Camu in Montellano was rebuild in an efficient manner and timespan.
Which made possible the detour and delay of the main bridge.
The Cangrejo bridge connecting communities on the North Coast on the only highway took almost two years.
Planing failure, including acquisition of adjacent land shows the incompetence, or possibly the unimportance of the North Coast.
Despite the importance of tourism.
Last week I spend a week in a Playa Dorada hotel.
The hotel was full with Canadian families and also had regular visits by cruise ship passengers on a day pass.
The presence of minor government officials and the blessing of the bridge by the church was nothing more than propaganda.
Si Dios Quiere.... which he obviously did Not, the bridge could've been re-build quickly.......no gracias a dios por eso!
Yet Abinader is the best we've had and hope for the future, for what it's worth.
The hope is trade and development of the DR through international investments, to have income for the development of this developing country....
Or third world country as the expression used to be, before becoming politicaly "correct".
Congratulations to those first world citizens, who became Ciudadanos Dominicanos yet they still complain of inefficiencies with expectation's
Of first world performance.
Be careful what you wish for, you may get it!
Yes NALs, we are doing better than some worse cases in the world and hope it continues in this direction.
The north coast between Puerto Plata and Cabarete is the least touristic area of the country affected by informal developments (not counting Bayahibe and Punta Cana proper and Cap Cana which are private developments, the equivalent to the north coast would be Verón, El Cortecito, Friusa, etc.) Boca Chica is a perfect example of a touriatic area where the government has abandoned for the most part.
The old center of Puerto Plata has received the most investment from the government of all historic center in the country with perhpas the Colonial Zone being the only exception.
The government has accepted investments from two cruise lines to the point Puerto Plata now has two cruises ship ports-of-call and now leads the nation in the amount of cruise passengers that visit the DR.
Banreservas is now working on the development of Playa Bergantín next to Playa Dorada which wil, have many new resorts and other stuff that would compete with the overall better resorts in Bávaro than in the North Coast.
The government has been working on improvements meant for playa Sosúa.
The La Puntilla area of Puerto Plata where the fortress is located was recently redone and included the creation of the largest government build amphitheater, which by the way is used for cultural events.
The area is getting more resources from the government for the benefit of its tourism, certainly more than in Bávaro where I think the largest government investment there was under Danilo with finishing the Boulevard del Este. Almost everything in Bávaro/Punta Cana has been created by the private sector with hardly the government being involved. That's not the case with Puerto Plata and vicinity.
During the years of Leonel it was also common for people in the North Coast to say the area was abandoned by the government, when in fact Puerto Plata province got more government investments on a per capita basis than anywhere else in the country including Santo Domingo.
The old center of Puerto Plata has received the most investment from the government of all historic center in the country with perhpas the Colonial Zone being the only exception.
The government has accepted investments from two cruise lines to the point Puerto Plata now has two cruises ship ports-of-call and now leads the nation in the amount of cruise passengers that visit the DR.
Banreservas is now working on the development of Playa Bergantín next to Playa Dorada which wil, have many new resorts and other stuff that would compete with the overall better resorts in Bávaro than in the North Coast.
The government has been working on improvements meant for playa Sosúa.
The La Puntilla area of Puerto Plata where the fortress is located was recently redone and included the creation of the largest government build amphitheater, which by the way is used for cultural events.
The area is getting more resources from the government for the benefit of its tourism, certainly more than in Bávaro where I think the largest government investment there was under Danilo with finishing the Boulevard del Este. Almost everything in Bávaro/Punta Cana has been created by the private sector with hardly the government being involved. That's not the case with Puerto Plata and vicinity.
During the years of Leonel it was also common for people in the North Coast to say the area was abandoned by the government, when in fact Puerto Plata province got more government investments on a per capita basis than anywhere else in the country including Santo Domingo.
That's right JD! We need to keep this thread alive. That said, I saw pics on Febu of cars crossing and it looks like some of the support foundation, or idk what the terminology is, is missing. But hey, Paliza was there in his chupacabra shirt along with the rest of his PRM cronies. Afterwards they flew to San Martín on the private jet for lobster and wagyu.
Regarding Sosua, it has taken years ( and seems it will be years more of snail paced construction) on Sosua beach to replace the squalid shacks.
CORAAPPLATA, the miserable incompetent government run water company is very high on the list of "abandonment" .
Failure to build a Cabarete bypass as promised is another abandonment.
I could personally care less about cruise ships and AI resorts in Puerto Plata city, Fort Improvements, and Playa Bergantin
All of that will cause further problems with the electricity and water supply and traffic on our 2 lane road here in Cabarete.
Well I drove the bridge yesterday and all I can say is that is one of the poorest asphalt jobs - it was obviously rushed. Very poor surface control, quite lumpy.
and the transition to the West side abutment is odd. You can see it in the photos of the railing where it looks like a dip in it. They didn't account for the camber in the bridge to a level abutment - they needed a sloped abutment - but oh well it beats the bypass.
And no William - that railing is not 'temporary'
and the transition to the West side abutment is odd. You can see it in the photos of the railing where it looks like a dip in it. They didn't account for the camber in the bridge to a level abutment - they needed a sloped abutment - but oh well it beats the bypass.
And no William - that railing is not 'temporary'
Lots of bridge building and asphalting professionals in this thread.
Did they put on the finish coat of asphalt? I don't recall seeing any steam rollers in the videos. Maybe not used on bridges(?).
45 years working in the road building business. Not behind a desk
Generally bridges only get one layer. Multiple layers give a roadway more strength, a bridge already has strength in the concrete and structural beams. On a bridge the asphalt is finished with rollers but only in static mode, no vibrators.
On roads, it seems to me there is a notable visible difference between the base layer and the finish, or, top layer. The base layer is "grainier". There's a big difference in road noise generated by the tires when driving over a base layer vs a top layer, too.
Asphalt is always compacted. I didn't see any video of what they used but it was likely rubber tired rollers (pneumatic) and maybe a small steel roller
Using a heavy vibratory would have destroyed that fresh concrete below. The deck was not adequately cured because of the rush to open.
But the issue is that it wasn't properly laid down or level raked and it's also just telescoping the undulating concrete below.
It's as lumpy as some DR restaurants' mashed potatoes.
If that's the case, heavy trucks are going to destroy that asphalt and it will need repaving soon.
With extra heavy use , in high temperatures , it gets very deep RUTS in it , that is when you know its Time.
Those of us who drive extremely high traffic Highways, like for example 95 Cross Bronx in NYC.. which seems to have more 18 wheelers on it than Cars sometimes... we have seen this play out, and it does seem never ending .
I think they would have to re do it once every 2-3 years , at most ..
Road experts here who know more about it can probably explain it better, and i would also like to hear about it .. and what Heat Temps and Pressures make this happen.
But I think in an overpass or bridge scenario like this, should be good for at least that long . imo its definitely not once a year though, just not enough traffic
But the quality and durability of the bridge was emphasized:
At noon on Thursday, the new bridge over the Camú River built by the central government in the Sabaneta de Cangrejos community was inaugurated. The bridge was opened by the Administrative Minister of the Presidency, José Ignacio Paliza, representing the President of the Republic, Luis Abinader. He publicly apologized on behalf of President Abinader, who was unable to attend due to weather conditions throughout the country and entrusted Paliza with the honor of opening the bridge.
The bridge is open
At noon on Thursday, the new bridge over the Camú River built by the central government in the Sabaneta de Cangrejos community was inaugurated. The bridge was opened by the Administrative Minister of the Presidency, José Ignacio Paliza, representing the President of the Republic, Luis Abinader. He publicly apologized on behalf of President Abinader, who was unable to attend due to weather conditions throughout the country and entrusted Paliza with the honor of opening the bridge.
Engineer Oswald Contreras, who was responsible for coordinating construction at Grupo Estrella, emphasized the quality and durability of the bridge.
The bridge is open
The bridge is open
The blessing of the Work and the invocation to God were performed by the Bishop of the Diocese of Puerto Plata, Monsignor Julio César Corniel Amaro, and the words of welcome were delivered by the engineer Basilio González, director of the Cibao-Norte regional department, Ministry of Public Works and Communications (MOPC). Among those present were: the municipal mayors of Sosúa, Wilfredo Olivences (El Chamo) and Roquelito García of San Felipe de Puerto Plata, as well as the directors of the district administrations of Yásica Arriba, Fabio Marte; Cabarete, Freddy Cruz and Sabaneta de Yásica, Roely Thómas.
I drove on it yesterday. You can tell it was a rushed job to open. It's not flat, it dips in the middle and not smooth as new asphalt should be. Hope it lasts. Still better than the detour.
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