China Wants To Improve It's Vaccine Before Giving To Chinese

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zoomzx11

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If this happened in down town New York I would believe it.
Indonesia??????
 

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If this happened in down town New York I would believe it.
Indonesia??????
The article is about Chile having problems because of Si No Vac and doing yet another dose, as if that would help.

Why did you mention New York or Indonesia?

 

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Fauci will go with a booster being needed when the vaccine companies have one for the scariants. That is crystal clear.
 

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So, has China improved its vaccine yet? They have the original virus from the Wuhan lab and surely all of the variants to use in that process.
If what you say is true about the lab then China had the virus and time to develop a vaccine.
Their vaccine ought be the best of the lot.
If on the other hand it was not the lab and China had only a month or two jump start on the virus then the present situation seems logical.
Fun to speculate but might never really know.
 

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"Earlier this week, more than 350 health workers who had been vaccinated with Sinovac's vaccine in an area of Indonesia hard-hit by the Delta variant fell ill with COVID-19."
Believe in NYC but not so fast in Indonesia.
 

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Fauci will go with a booster being needed when the vaccine companies have one for the scariants. That is crystal clear.
as there are sure to be more variants....you will need a new boosterr for every one...............
 

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If what you say is true about the lab then China had the virus and time to develop a vaccine.
Their vaccine ought be the best of the lot.
If on the other hand it was not the lab and China had only a month or two jump start on the virus then the present situation seems logical.
Fun to speculate but might never really know.
Just because they might have been working on the virus doesn't mean they were simultaneously developing a vaccine for it.
 

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"Earlier this week, more than 350 health workers who had been vaccinated with Sinovac's vaccine in an area of Indonesia hard-hit by the Delta variant fell ill with COVID-19."
Believe in NYC but not so fast in Indonesia.
The delta variant is more contagious than the others. Over 60% of the cases in the UK are the Delta one and they use all the supposedly better vaccines. same thing happened in Israel where they use the Pfizer vaccine. The important thing to remember in all these cases is that while these people tested positive for the virus, very few had to be hospitalized or died.
 

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I'd be willing to bet that all the people that have been hospitalized or received any of the vaccines and became hospitalized or died from CV19, had weak immune systems and caught every cold or flu that came down the pike:

 

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windeguy

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If what you say is true about the lab then China had the virus and time to develop a vaccine.
Their vaccine ought be the best of the lot.
If on the other hand it was not the lab and China had only a month or two jump start on the virus then the present situation seems logical.
Fun to speculate but might never really know.
Creating a better virus in an increase of function virology lab is not the same as creating a vaccine that is the best at defeating such a virus.
They are separate, but related technologies, and I would not assume being good at one makes one good at the other.

mRNA vaccines , which don't seem to be of interest in China at the moment since they are still pushing traditional deactivated virus vaccines, seem to be better against such corona viruses. At least from what I have read lately. Obviously they had more time than anyone to develop a better vaccine, but still have not. The renders your initial argument suspect that they should have the best vaccine.
 

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The delta variant is more contagious than the others. Over 60% of the cases in the UK are the Delta one and they use all the supposedly better vaccines. same thing happened in Israel where they use the Pfizer vaccine. The important thing to remember in all these cases is that while these people tested positive for the virus, very few had to be hospitalized or died.
Could be. That scariant is more contagious, they say.

And it could be the vaccines did and are still doing their job in preventing death.
But then, most unvaccinated people won't die, either. People have a choice to be vaccinated or not.
The last I heard no government mandates vaccinations, or did that change?
 

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>"It's a little bit of a dangerous trend here. We are in a data-free, evidence-free zone as far as mix and match," Soumya Swaminathan told an online briefing.

>"It will be a chaotic situation in countries if citizens start deciding when and who will be taking a second, a third and a fourth dose."



Will be? Try the DR - it already is a 'data-free, evidence-free zone'.
 

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Faced with short supplies of COVID-19 vaccines and unforeseen side effects, some countries have adopted an unproven strategy: switching shots midstream. Most authorized vaccines require two doses administered weeks or months apart, but Canada and several European countries are now recommending a different vaccine for the second dose in some patients. Early data suggest the approach, born of necessity, may actually be beneficial.
In three recent studies, researchers have found that following one dose of the vaccine made by AstraZeneca with a dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine produces strong immune responses, as measured by blood tests. Two of the studies even suggest the mixed vaccine response will be at least as protective as two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech product, one of the most effective COVID-19 vaccines.
 

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In the Beginning of this Vaccine campaign
Medical Professionals were told to not EVER even Mix the shots from 2 different vials of the same medicine ..
Even the same LOT.
Each Vial dose had a lot of leftover medicine, back when it was very very scarce .
Combining several vials they could easily give them an extra free dose ...
they were cautioned to THROW IT AWAY, and not to EVER Mix 2 different vials ..

Something for you Google experts to think on
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In the Beginning of this Vaccine campaign
Medical Professionals were told to not EVER even Mix the shots from 2 different vials of the same medicine ..
Even the same LOT.
Each Vial dose had a lot of leftover medicine, back when it was very very scarce .
Combining several vials they could easily give them an extra free dose ...
they were cautioned to THROW IT AWAY, and not to EVER Mix 2 different vials ..

Something for you Google experts to think on
.

Just kiddin
 
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