It is insanity to import sick tourists and allow them to engage in close quarters contact with the locals.
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Not so long ago that would have been said about AIDS.
What will happen next in the Covidic Epoch? The government changes hands about 10 AM today in Santo Domingo.
So far it is said everyone will have health care by the end of the year, reservoirs will be built to prevent water shortages, the EDE's will be eliminated and merged into a Ministry of Energy, Immigration laws will be enforced as is, and we will soon see what else. Since tourism is number one in the DR, I suspect actions, or at least words, relative to tourism. I also expect much stricter CV19 regulations.
For how long should businesses be closed?
It would be insane as well then to import healthy tourists and allow them to engage in close quarters contact with the sick locals. In reality, covid is having little trouble infecting the locals and eliminating a few passengers from other countries isn't going to make much difference.
Great question.
I've been asking the same thing for months.
Well the good news in DR, is they did not waste millions on Temp hospitals :
https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/...hospital-that-served-38-coronavirus-patients/
https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/...hospital-that-served-38-coronavirus-patients/
Mods, this concerns the concept of Herd Immunity and how it applies to CV19, my opinions at the start could be considered off topic, so you can edit or delete them if you see fit:
It turns out because of the inept ways imbeciles DiBalsio and Cuomo handled NY state that the decrease in numbers there , it is suggested in the NY times, are from herd immunity and nothing to do with how they poorly managed their states pandemic.
London and Mumbai face similar situations as so many have become infected there as well. This is actually good news about the disease, but of course this will be claimed by Cuomsexuals as some triumph by their idol. Herd immunity means such a contagious airborne disease is running it course. This also provides hope that an effective vaccine is possible as we learn more about such herd immunity.
Herd immunity, which I have said from the start, is the only way to reduce the CV19 world problem, may be easier to achieve than previously thought. From today in the liberal left wing truth only tellers, the NY Times dailey email, a virtual bible for the left:
Is Herd Immunity Ahead of Schedule
Mumbai may be among the cities that have already achieved herd immunity, scientists say.Indranil Mukherjee/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
It turns out because of the inept ways imbeciles DiBalsio and Cuomo handled NY state that the decrease in numbers there , it is suggested in the NY times, are from herd immunity and nothing to do with how they poorly managed their states pandemic.
London and Mumbai face similar situations as so many have become infected there as well. This is actually good news about the disease, but of course this will be claimed by Cuomsexuals as some triumph by their idol. Herd immunity means such a contagious airborne disease is running it course. This also provides hope that an effective vaccine is possible as we learn more about such herd immunity.
Herd immunity, which I have said from the start, is the only way to reduce the CV19 world problem, may be easier to achieve than previously thought. From today in the liberal left wing truth only tellers, the NY Times dailey email, a virtual bible for the left:
Is Herd Immunity Ahead of Schedule
Mumbai may be among the cities that have already achieved herd immunity, scientists say.Indranil Mukherjee/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
The pandemic will end only when enough people are protected against the coronavirus, whether by a vaccine or by already having been infected. Reaching this threshold, known as herd immunity, doesn’t mean the virus will disappear. But with fewer hosts to infect, it will make its way through a community much more slowly. |
In the early days of the crisis, scientists estimated that perhaps 70 percent of the population would need to be immune in this way to be free from large outbreaks. But over the past few weeks, more than a dozen scientists told me they now felt comfortable saying that herd immunity probably lies from 45 percent to 50 percent. |
If they’re right, then we may be a lot closer to turning back this virus than we initially thought. |
It may also mean that pockets of New York City, London, Mumbai and other cities may already have reached the threshold, and may be spared a devastating second wave. |
The initial calculations into herd immunity assumed that everyone in a community was equally susceptible to the virus and mixed randomly with everyone else. |
The new estimates are the product of more sophisticated statistical modeling. When scientists factor in variations in density, demographics and socialization patterns, the estimated threshold for herd immunity falls. |
In some clinics in hard-hit Brooklyn neighborhoods, up to 80 percent of people who were tested at the beginning of the summer had antibodies for the virus. Over the past eight weeks, fewer than 1 percent of people tested at those same neighborhood clinics have had the virus. |
Likewise in Mumbai, a randomized household survey found that about 57 percent of people who live in the poorest areas and share toilets had antibodies, compared with just 11 percent elsewhere in the city. |
It’s too early to say with certainty that those communities have reached herd immunity. We don’t know, for example, how long someone who was infected stays protected from the coronavirus. But the data suggests that the virus may move more slowly in those areas the next time around. |
herd immunity is not achievable if having the disease only imparts a temporary immunity.
No evidence that surviving the disease imparts long term immunity and there have been numbers of cases of reinfection.
Is there a single instance where herd immunity has worked anywhere in the world?
No evidence that surviving the disease imparts long term immunity and there have been numbers of cases of reinfection.
Is there a single instance where herd immunity has worked anywhere in the world?
We still don't know, but if there is no natural herd immunity, then a vaccine cannot be used to help build herd immunity.
Here is an articled today on this topic from the NY Times (not that I trust this source at all, but here goes) :
www.nytimes.com
"We’ve known from the beginning how the end will arrive. Eventually, the coronavirus will be unable to find enough susceptible hosts to survive, fading out wherever it briefly emerges.
To achieve so-called herd immunity — the point at which the virus can no longer spread because there are not enough vulnerable humans — scientists have suggested that perhaps 70 percent of a given population must be immune, through vaccination or because they survived the infection.
Now some researchers are wrestling with a hopeful possibility. In interviews with The New York Times, more than a dozen scientists said that the threshold is likely to be much lower: just 50 percent, perhaps even less. If that’s true, then it may be possible to turn back the coronavirus more quickly than once thought.
The new estimates result from complicated statistical modeling of the pandemic, and the models have all taken divergent approaches, yielding inconsistent estimates. It is not certain that any community in the world has enough residents now immune to the virus to resist a second wave.
But in parts of New York, London and Mumbai, for example, it is not inconceivable that there is already substantial immunity to the coronavirus, scientists said.
“I’m quite prepared to believe that there are pockets in New York City and London which have substantial immunity,” said Bill Hanage, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. “What happens this winter will reflect that.” "
Here is an articled today on this topic from the NY Times (not that I trust this source at all, but here goes) :
What if ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Closer Than Scientists Thought? (Published 2020)
In what may be the world’s most important math puzzle, researchers are trying to figure out how many people in a community must be immune before the coronavirus fades.
"We’ve known from the beginning how the end will arrive. Eventually, the coronavirus will be unable to find enough susceptible hosts to survive, fading out wherever it briefly emerges.
To achieve so-called herd immunity — the point at which the virus can no longer spread because there are not enough vulnerable humans — scientists have suggested that perhaps 70 percent of a given population must be immune, through vaccination or because they survived the infection.
Now some researchers are wrestling with a hopeful possibility. In interviews with The New York Times, more than a dozen scientists said that the threshold is likely to be much lower: just 50 percent, perhaps even less. If that’s true, then it may be possible to turn back the coronavirus more quickly than once thought.
The new estimates result from complicated statistical modeling of the pandemic, and the models have all taken divergent approaches, yielding inconsistent estimates. It is not certain that any community in the world has enough residents now immune to the virus to resist a second wave.
But in parts of New York, London and Mumbai, for example, it is not inconceivable that there is already substantial immunity to the coronavirus, scientists said.
“I’m quite prepared to believe that there are pockets in New York City and London which have substantial immunity,” said Bill Hanage, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. “What happens this winter will reflect that.” "
Why would there be an update? He collaborated with Danilo to create the current curfew.
Quite a few people I know and myself believe the reason a second wave did not occur in nyc this summer while numerous crowds were/are congregating (protests/parties,etc) is because of widespread immunity since so many were infected from Feb to May. Is it a long lasting immunity? Herd immunity? Time will tell.
There are pockets resurfacing.
Cuomotose, DeblASSio yes...I personally add Trumptard and company to the list of imbeciles.
Because according to earlier discussions on the matter, the PRM and Luis Abinader were for far tighter restrictions than just a nightly curfew.
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