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One would think that after about 2.5 million cases and 170,000 deaths worldwide, whatever works or doesn't work would soon become apparent.
 

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The news article referenced in my post states that the Veterans Administration trial used azithromycin in combination with the HCQ. It didn't help.
Zinc is also a major component of the cocktail.

It is working all over the planet in a very large majority of cases..
 
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Thank you for what you post, for being the voice of reason.


All the armchair, uncredentialed "experts" are shameful and even dangerous.

I really don't want to have to block people but...It just may be the answer to the stupidity

I doubt people are looking to blog for Covid-19 treatment practices. You don't need to be an expert to post an opinion. You don't have to cite some other members' preferred sources. This is a conversation, not a job interview.
 
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This controversy began with post #2070 which specifically references HCQ as "a cure". From there it got amplified by other posters insisting that that it was accepted science that HCI is effective in fighting Covid-19. They cited the fact that the Dominican Republic had purchased 50,000 doses of the drug to use on all their Covid-19 cases as proof positive. Post #2208 had a video from a snake oil salesman attesting to the efficacy of HCQ in fighting Covid-19. Post #2219 insisted that "doctors in the U.S. were having very good results with HCQ" without citing any data to back up that statement. Post #2253 stated that HCQ had been approved by the FDA as an effective treatment for Covid--19 when in fact the FDA has never approved HCQ for that purpose but instead simply allowed the use of HCQ on an experimental basis which simply means that doctors who decide to prescribe it could no longer be criminally prosecuted. Post #2261 quoted some Hasidic doctor who claimed to have 100 percent success in curing 350 patients with Covid-19 by using HCQ. Post #2264 stated that "thousands of doctors agree that HCQ is the best treatment for patients with Covid-19 " without offering any supporting data. Should I continue with more examples of misinformation?

Allow me to bring you up to speed. There is no cure for virus's. So dont catch a cold or herpes.
This controversy began with post #2070 which specifically references HCQ as "a cure". From there it got amplified by other posters insisting that that it was accepted science that HCI is effective in fighting Covid-19. They cited the fact that the Dominican Republic had purchased 50,000 doses of the drug to use on all their Covid-19 cases as proof positive. Post #2208 had a video from a snake oil salesman attesting to the efficacy of HCQ in fighting Covid-19. Post #2219 insisted that "doctors in the U.S. were having very good results with HCQ" without citing any data to back up that statement. Post #2253 stated that HCQ had been approved by the FDA as an effective treatment for Covid--19 when in fact the FDA has never approved HCQ for that purpose but instead simply allowed the use of HCQ on an experimental basis which simply means that doctors who decide to prescribe it could no longer be criminally prosecuted. Post #2261 quoted some Hasidic doctor who claimed to have 100 percent success in curing 350 patients with Covid-19 by using HCQ. Post #2264 stated that "thousands of doctors agree that HCQ is the best treatment for patients with Covid-19 " without offering any supporting data. Should I continue with more examples of misinformation?

FYI . There is no cure for virus's . So dont catch a cold or herpes, other wise you will be treating the symptoms like the rest of the 5.5 billion peeps on the planet. Different people find relief from different treatments. At least thats what the CDC says.
 
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You can (try and) draw your own conclusions but you cant change facts and science ;)
The USC study for LA County came to the same conclusions as the Stanford study did for Santa Clara county.

What are the odds that both studies by prestigious institutes are equally flawed?

Have any universities in Hamilton done any better studies, "House?"
 

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FYI . There is no cure for virus's . So dont catch a cold or herpes, other wise you will be treating the symptoms like the rest of the 5.5 billion peeps on the planet. Different people find relief from different treatments. At least thats what the CDC says.
True. There is *some* immunity for *some* viruses, both self-immunization and vaccines. Many viruses lay dormant, like some herpes and shingles viruses, triggered by the host's chemical responses.
 
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The USC study for LA County came to the same conclusions as the Stanford study did for Santa Clara county.

What are the odds that both studies by prestigious institutes are equally flawed?

Have any universities in Hamilton done any better studies, "House?"
Don't know the odds but I do know that people make mistkes and they also like to "pile on" making similar mistakes. Theres "any number" of flawed studies and many times similar conclusions, flawed or not, are reached in seemingly unrelated studies. There was a time when "doctors" did not believe in "germs" and they were ALL wrong lol

You'll have to dig up your own results, if you can. I'm not your research assistant. I quick"google rage" as you luv to call it would illuminate things for you.

Seems to me that there was much recent news about the university there making strides in the battle against C-19. What have you done? ;)

Don't know the odds but I do know that people make mistakes and they also like to "pile on" making similar mistakes. There are manyof flawed studies and many times similar conclusions, flawed or not, are reached in seemingly unrelated studies. There was a time when "doctors" did not believe in "germs" and they were ALL wrong lol

You'll have to dig up your own results, if you can. I'm not your research assistant. A quick"google rage" as you luv to call it would illuminate things for you.

Seems to me that there was much recent news about the university there making strides in the battle against C-19. What have you done?

All I see is contrarianism and an undeserved superior attitude as conclusions are drawn without sufficient support and a credentials. Said it before and will keep saying it: this type of posting is dangerous and misleading so STOP IT!

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/problem-thinking-know-experts
 
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Allow me to bring you up to speed. There is no cure for virus's. So dont catch a cold or herpes.


FYI . There is no cure for virus's . So dont catch a cold or herpes, other wise you will be treating the symptoms like the rest of the 5.5 billion peeps on the planet. Different people find relief from different treatments. At least thats what the CDC says.

Yes, of course you're right. BIGLY

Vaccines are not a cure, they're BETTER. They prevent you from getting sick in the first place. ;)

 
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Don't know the odds but I do know that people make mistkes and they also like to "pile on" making similar mistakes. Theres "any number" of flawed studies and many times similar conclusions, flawed or not, are reached in seemingly unrelated studies. There was a time when "doctors" did not believe in "germs" and they were ALL wrong lol
So in other words, you cannot offer any "scientific" information how these two different studies from two different respected institutions can both arrive at the same incorrect conclusion, other than you don't like their results.

Nor can you offer any documented critique on how this can happen.

Understood.

Has McMaster University done a similar study?
 

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You'll have to dig up your own results, if you can. I'm not your research assistant. A quick"google rage" as you luv to call it would illuminate things for you.
Just as a curious minor point of reference, "House", the only time I have used "rage google" is in Off Topic, a forum you have never had access to.

And certainly not since your registration date.

So how do you know that I "luv" to use it?

Very curious, indeed...
 
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So in other words, you cannot offer any "scientific" information how these two different studies from two different respected institutions can both arrive at the same incorrect conclusion, other than you don't like their results.

Nor can you offer any documented critique on how this can happen.

Understood.

Has McMaster University done a similar study?
"I" make no such claims and of course you cannot justifiably either. Purposely trying to "put words in peoples mouths", spinning and twisting others posts is really at the low end of the scale for "debate" yet it's most of your "toolkit".

If I ever need an example of destructive and dangerous posting yours make fine examples.

Not sure what your fascination is with McMaster University. It's well know as a fine, world class even, institution and the Doctors and scientists there are well respected. Unlike you they're qualified to solve medical issues.

Do stop now, these personnal attacks are uncalled for and you're embarassing yourself.
 
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Zinc is also a major component of the cocktail.

It is working all over the planet in a very large majority of cases..

Nothing wrong with a conversation that includes opinions provided that the poster doesn't couch their opinions as proven facts.

Case in point - unsubstantiated opinion(s) presented as fact.
 
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Just as a curious minor point of reference, "House", the only time I have used "rage google" is in Off Topic, a forum you have never had access to.

And certainly not since your registration date.

So how do you know that I "luv" to use it?

Very curious, indeed...

Memory loss is a serious symptom. Please seek help from qualified medical Doctor ;) http://ny1.dr1.com.do/forums/thread...publican-nomination.93784/page-5#post-1013322 post #97

No doubt there are more examples.

Mods....please call off this dog. The false accusations are "over the line"
 
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