Coronavirus - In the DR

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If you're in busy towns it's nice for peace and quiet. Keeps the riff raff off the streets at night. I would imagine something good out of this is less DWI deaths, less drug movement at 3am. Although I'm sure the tigueres and grey area expats are stocking up during business hours.
I'm not suggesting leaving things open til midnight, but 9pm or 10pm would be much more reasonable. I was out at 10pm Saturday night and there was very little traffic on the road. Restaurants could have at least stayed open until 8pm that way. Maybe they're just going to shut down restaurants(?).
 

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If you're in busy towns it's nice for peace and quiet. Keeps the riff raff off the streets at night. I would imagine something good out of this is less DWI deaths, less drug movement at 3am. Although I'm sure the tigueres and grey area expats are stocking up during business hours.
I think it could be the death sentence for a lot of restaurants. They were already hanging on a thread before this. Remember that as soon as this SOE finishes we are straight into hurricane season.
 

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I think it could be the death sentence for a lot of restaurants. They were already hanging on a thread before this. Remember that as soon as this SOE finishes we are straight into hurricane season.
Yes it will be a death sentence for bars and restaurants unless they are more breakfast/lunch or coffee shop/pastry places.
 

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I've heard the AI's have 10% occupancy. Can't remember where I read it. But it's dire.
Whatever it is it is low. PUJ had 16 arrivals from the USA today, 1 from Lisbon and a couple of others. POP had 2 arrivals from USA today.
Normally PUJ would have around 40 arrivals on any given day.
 

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Other than those going to AI's to which this curfew doesn't apply, I see very few tourists who will want to come here knowing they have to be home at 7pm weekdays and 5pm weekends. Very few.
 

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Has anybody evidence of this happeing?

Other countries are requiring such a test less then 72 from the flight. I wouldn't be surprised if people are assuming that it's required here.
 

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Money over everything.

That's incredible but it's Cuba. Harsher than China on citizen rights and a military police on every 3rd or 4th corner with an AK or an AR.

Thats how to achieve those numbers.
As long as there is no effective vaccin COVID can only be restrained by social discipline, a collective effort. Cubans have understood it, the Dominicans not. A simple test: look how people are entering the crowded city busses in Santo Domingo and in Havana. I don't exactly know what do you mean by citizen rights but the right to medical care means it is free for all. And those who want to play opposition get the funding from Miami and publish their views (seach for 14ymedio if interested).

The comment about AK on every 3rd coner sounds as cooked in some dark basemement of a Washington propaganda unit. Most policemen in Cuba patrol the streets without weapons. These are not really needed because the country has lower level of violence then SD or Chicago.
 
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As long as there is no effective vaccin COVID can only be restrained by social discipline, a collective effort. Cubans have understood it, the Dominicans not. A simple test: look how people are entering the crowded city busses in Santo Domingo and in Havanna. I don't exactly know what do you mean by citizen rights but the right to medical care means it is free for all. And those who want to play opposition get the funding from Miami and publish their views (seach for 14ymedio if interested).

The comment about AK on every 3rd coner sounds as cooked in some dark basemement of a Washington propaganda unit. Most policemen in Cuba patrol the streets without weapons. These are not really needed because the country has a lower level of violence then SD or Chicago.
No, they’re not needed because citizens in Cuba can’t own guns and guns are highly controlled - police in general are not allowed to carry or own them either
 
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As long as there is no effective vaccin COVID can only be restrained by social discipline, a collective effort. Cubans have understood it, the Dominicans not. A simple test: look how people are entering the crowded city busses in Santo Domingo and in Havanna. I don't exactly know what do you mean by citizen rights but the right to medical care means it is free for all. And those who want to play opposition get the funding from Miami and publish their views (seach for 14ymedio if interested).

The comment about AK on every 3rd coner sounds as cooked in some dark basemement of a Washington propaganda unit. Most policemen in Cuba patrol the streets without weapons. These are not really needed because the country has a lower level of violence then SD or Chicago.
Cuba has the virus “under control” but for how long can they keep borders closed or isolate tourists in a secluded area. Ok so they are better at disease control or prevention but they have a huge food and medicine crisis that is only getting worse. They produce next to nothing. The DR is self sufficient with food 85% being locally produced and with stock for three months.
 
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The curfew is so ridiculous and continues to prove how inept government is in RD. Obviously they think the virus is a vampire that only infects at night. What idiots. Just keep things as they are if this is your answer. The asymptomatics are walking around all day but only at night are they infectious. Idiots

So same idiots are in Florida and Puerto Rico which also have night curfews ?
 

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Can we learn from history?

The Bubonic Plague - 1665

Eyam England

1665 plague outbreak
Main article: Great Plague of London

See also: Protective sequestration

The history of the plague in the village began in 1665 when a flea-infested bundle of cloth arrived from London for Alexander Hadfield, the local tailor.[14] Within a week his assistant George Viccars, who noticing the bundle was damp, had opened it up.[15] Before long he was dead and more began dying in the household soon after.[16]

As the disease spread, the villagers turned for leadership to their rector, the Reverend William Mompesson, and the ejected Puritan minister Thomas Stanley. They introduced a number of precautions to slow the spread of the illness from May 1666. The measures included the arrangement that families were to bury their own dead and relocation of church services to the natural amphitheatre of Cucklett Delph,[17] allowing villagers to separate themselves and so reducing the risk of infection. Perhaps the best-known decision was to quarantine the entire village to prevent further spread of the disease.

The plague ran its course over 14 months and one account states that it killed at least 260 villagers, with only 83 surviving out of a population of 350.[16] That figure has been challenged on a number of occasions, with alternative figures of 430 survivors from a population of around 800 being given.[16] The church in Eyam has a record of 273 individuals who were victims of the plague.[18]

Survival among those affected appeared random, as many who remained alive had close contact with those who died but never caught the disease. For example, Elizabeth Hancock was uninfected despite burying six children and her husband in eight days. The graves are known as the Riley graves after the farm where they lived.[14] The unofficial village gravedigger, Marshall Howe, also survived, despite handling many infected bodies.[16]

The village's actions prevented the disease from moving into surrounding areas.[19]
 
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Unlikely. It is a very different and far more mobile world. Bubonic plague was caused by a bacteria.

CV19 is an airborne very contagious virus with millions of cases through the world. Isolation, mask wearing and social distancing are not going to stop it.
I thought that much was clear since we are now at least 7 months into the pandemic and still in phase 1 of a disease that "lasts 3 weeks" and we can "flatten the curve". It is going to take more than a village.
 

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We probably need to go back to the first set of restrictions. with the police being ruthless with people gathering too close together. and not wearing masks. You should have to declare the reason you are out of your home during the day and at night zero tolerance for any gatherings on private or public property. It's the end result that is important not civil liberties and the right to socialize, those have already been stripped by the S.O.E. The people have the ability to control the spread of this disease, if they won't do it voluntarily then they need to be forced to do it. I'm all for a fiesta tip line that brings the authorities to break up inappropriate gatherings day or night.
 

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Zaida Polanco will not be able to represent the province of Valverde, the elected Diputada died last Saturday from Covid-19.


While every passing is sad, most of the persons expiring are in very poor physical condition.
Perhaps some should take this period of time to regulate their lifestyles, with a view towards the future.
 

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If you're in busy towns it's nice for peace and quiet. Keeps the riff raff off the streets at night. I would imagine something good out of this is less DWI deaths, less drug movement at 3am. Although I'm sure the tigueres and grey area expats are stocking up during business hours.

You are correct.
In several larger towns along the south eastern tier there has been an uptick in violence since the previous curfew ended. Largely associated with past vendettas, and persons jockeying for new positioning within a certain seedy underbelly.
 
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We probably need to go back to the first set of restrictions. with the police being ruthless with people gathering too close together. and not wearing masks. You should have to declare the reason you are out of your home during the day and at night zero tolerance for any gatherings on private or public property. It's the end result that is important not civil liberties and the right to socialize, those have already been stripped by the S.O.E. The people have the ability to control the spread of this disease, if they won't do it voluntarily then they need to be forced to do it. I'm all for a fiesta tip line that brings the authorities to break up inappropriate gatherings day or night.
I wish we were back to the first set of restrictions which included all public transport, shopping malls and resturants.
 
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