A non-US airline that flies into the US is not exempt from a lawsuit.............
If they were, all US carriers would immediately offshore their operations.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
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COVID Passport Discussion
If they were, all US carriers would immediately offshore their operations.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
Still need test to enter U.S. DeSantis, Fl. Gov. Refuses Vac. Passports. Fl. Infection rate on the rise again.
And you likely will need a negative COVID test to enter for some time to come.
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Playacaribe2
You don't have issues with proving that you're virus free at least according to testing methods that are not 100% accurate yet you have issues with those that choose to get vaccinated having similar benefits? Is that correct? Please explain and some links/data to back it up would make it more believable.
None whatsoever.........and I agree no testing methodology can make 100% guarantees, just as no vaccination can make 100% guarantees........and none have. A vaccine does not mean you are virus free............only that you have been vaccinated.
No that is not correct. I have no issues with that choose to get vaccinated.........that is their choice to make.
I think that is pretty self explanatory and requires no links/data.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
The US airlines are lobbying for a vaccine passport. They can set whatever standards they wish for flying. I doubt The Supremes will have anything to say on the matter. Airlines can set whatever standards they wish.
Why do you keep harping about US rules? This is a Dominican Republic forum. There ARE a lot of people on the forum that do actually live and visit the DR..........................
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If you are referring to a vaccine passport indicating that passengers have been vaccinated, they might get one, but they will not/cannot refuse to fly passengers who have not been vaccinated.............not without an Act of Congress............and that will not happen.
As long as those standards do not violate US laws.
I doubt it gets to that level................,but if it does..............expect to hear arguments that raise the internment camps of WWII and a whole host of other constitutional discrimination issues.
Again, as long as those standards do not violate US laws.
In conversation with a commercial pilot, discussions have taken place by the airlines to identify the number of vaccinated people on a flight, as well as possibly creating a section just for vaccinated passengers, and creating both vaccinated only flights along with flights that will allow both. Again, discussions only as I am not sure how they would successfully implement any of these.
What US airlines cannot do without a change in US law that survives constitutional challenge is outright refuse to fly passengers who have not been vaccinated.
They want to fly and return to financial profitability as soon as possible..............and it may well take years to get people vaccinated globally who want the vaccine..........and they do not have that much time or money to wait.............unless the government is going to continue to provide massive bailouts for the industry.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
Why do you care?
Does it upset you so much that I responded to Windeguy's reference to US airlines in post #27.
The thread is about a Covid passport. You know, as in a passport required for international travel perhaps to the DR from its most important tourist provider.
If it bothers you that much..........ignore the post.........unless of course you have other motives
Respectfully.
Playacaribe2
Soon the whole world will be running on a China-style mass surveillance system.
Don't complain, you asked for it.
Don't complain, you asked for it.
Why would airlines forcing people to prove they are vaccinated violate any US law?
Vaccine passports: How to prove you've gotten your COVID-19 shots for travel and avoid scams
There's no official COVID-19 vaccine passport in the USA – at least not yet. In the meantime, you have a few imperfect options.
www.usatoday.com
Proving you are vaccinated likely would not violate US law, although under the federal HIPPA laws there may be issues involving privacy of that information and a potential legal challenge there.Why would airlines forcing people to prove they are vaccinated violate any US law?
Vaccine passports: How to prove you've gotten your COVID-19 shots for travel and avoid scams
There's no official COVID-19 vaccine passport in the USA – at least not yet. In the meantime, you have a few imperfect options.www.usatoday.com
The more likely battleground issue is whether the US airlines can refuse to fly passengers who are not vaccinated, and that will likely lead to claims of discrimination, claims concerning those who oppose vaccines on religious grounds, and there is also an article advocating that they may violate the Americans with Disabilities Act;
Why COVID-19 immunity passports may violate US law
Amazon and General Motors are among companies exploring ways to test employees for COVID-19 infection, but these measures may be against the law.
theconversation.com
COVID-19 immunity passports and vaccination certificates: scientific, equitable, and legal challenges
Many governments are looking for paths out of restrictive physical distancing measures imposed to control the spread of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). With a potential vaccine against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) many months away,1 one proposal that some...
www.thelancet.com
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
Winde that has already gone thru the courts with the Orthodox Jewish sector in the US. I won't elaborate due to TOS of DR1Why would airlines forcing people to prove they are vaccinated violate any US law?
Vaccine passports: How to prove you've gotten your COVID-19 shots for travel and avoid scams
There's no official COVID-19 vaccine passport in the USA – at least not yet. In the meantime, you have a few imperfect options.www.usatoday.com
Airlines can absolutely legally refuse to fly you if they decide you need to be vaccinated to be on board. As is mentioned, no shirt, no shoes, no vaccination, no service. This will only have exceptions for very limited groups of people and I suspect they can submit proof of negative testing instead or just stay home. (Also, US States can mandate vaccinations for its citizens, the US Federal government cannot. )
Most likely, countries will accept a vaccine passport or an antigen test for entry. For those that travel frequently, a vaccine passport will avoid constantly having to get a test. Certain venues within a country might be off limits for you if you don't have a vaccine passport or get, yet again, another antigen test.
Every Doctor I spoke to in both the DR and the US advised taking whatever vaccine is available to you. But the "experts" on DR1 were not consulted.
The final insult: Some dying of COVID while awaiting vaccine
The final insult: Some dying of COVID while awaiting vaccine
Air Force veteran Diane Drewes spent months hoping to receive a COVID-19 immunization
abcnews.go.com
The opinion above is that proving you are vaccinated may violate the law. Time will tell on that both for workplaces and transportation. I see no reason that airlines cannot deny service for lack of vaccination. A negative test may be a work around for those who are religulous.Proving you are vaccinated likely would not violate US law, although under the federal HIPPA laws there may be issues involving privacy of that information and a potential legal challenge there.
The more likely battleground issue is whether the US airlines can refuse to fly passengers who are not vaccinated, and that will likely lead to claims of discrimination, claims concerning those who oppose vaccines on religious grounds, and there is also an article advocating that they may violate the Americans with Disabilities Act;
Why COVID-19 immunity passports may violate US law
Amazon and General Motors are among companies exploring ways to test employees for COVID-19 infection, but these measures may be against the law.
COVID-19 immunity passports and vaccination certificates: scientific, equitable, and legal challenges
Many governments are looking for paths out of restrictive physical distancing measures imposed to control the spread of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). With a potential vaccine against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) many months away,1 one proposal that some...www.thelancet.com
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Playacaribe2
You mentioned reasonable accommodation of the store with curbside pickup. Wow what would reasonable accommodation with an airline look like? Flying in the cargo hold?