Normally have to be able to prove tribal affiliation. At least with Cherokee have to be able to trace back to the daws roll(trail of tears). Can't clame was a wondering Indian.
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Normally have to be able to prove tribal affiliation. At least with Cherokee have to be able to trace back to the daws roll(trail of tears). Can't clame was a wondering Indian.
I received my DNA results. I must say I was surprised by some and others not surprised
as I already knew I had it in my family.
AFRICA 47%
Benin/togo 19%
Senegal 10%
Africa south central 3%
Cameroon/congo 5%
Ivory coast/Ghana 4%
Africa north 3%
Africa southeastern 2%
Mali 1%
Europe 41%
Italy 8%
Great Britain 18%
Iberian peninsula 12%
Europe west 2%
European jewish 1%
Asia central 1%
Native American 5%
Middle East Israel 6%
as I already knew I had it in my family.
AFRICA 47%
Benin/togo 19%
Senegal 10%
Africa south central 3%
Cameroon/congo 5%
Ivory coast/Ghana 4%
Africa north 3%
Africa southeastern 2%
Mali 1%
Europe 41%
Italy 8%
Great Britain 18%
Iberian peninsula 12%
Europe west 2%
European jewish 1%
Asia central 1%
Native American 5%
Middle East Israel 6%
hey AE, I'm not being argumentative, but the 8% NA isn't necessarily taino. Prior to and early on during the importation of enslaved Africans there were also captive enslaved NA from other islands and from the vera cruz area of mexico.
I replied to AE before reading NALS far more credible post regarding the ethnicity of the carib and Arawak and other NA groups. He is so much smarter than I and not nearly as lazy.
Mr. AE's DNA results came in this week, a couple of surprises. No Middle Eastern [well, "low confidence" 2%], which I expected because he looks like an Arab to me, but he did get 6% Northern African, so I guess he looks more Egyptian/Libyan 
Like his niece, he's 8% Native American, not a surprise, the cheekbones in his father's family are there. The surprises were Ireland, "Germany/Belgium/Netherlands/Switzerland", and "Finland/Russia"! I guess that's why he was a blond kid.
The bulk of his DNA showed Iberia [31%] and Italy [25%], and the rest is a Heinz 57 variety. A lot of "low confidence" results. Ancestry put him into two "Genetic Communities": "Spaniards, Cubans, Dominicans and Venezuelans", and "Dominicans". Ancestry also shows you a map of your origins - where your genes are prevalent. We were surprised to see that in Spain they are heavy along the entire northern coast of Spain, and barely sprinkled in southern Spain - where his ancestors migrated to DR from [Andalusia & Canary Islands]. Also shows heavily in Cuba. On the DR map, there are two huge blobs/circles, one in northern DR [his father's family was from Montecristi originally] and one in Santo Domingo [his mother's family settled in San Carlos way back when]. It's amazing what a little spit can tell these people.
What really surprised me - a lot - was that he has 525 DNA matches 4th cousin and closer. I only have 123. I guess a LOT more Dominicans than we thought are being tested.
Like his niece, he's 8% Native American, not a surprise, the cheekbones in his father's family are there. The surprises were Ireland, "Germany/Belgium/Netherlands/Switzerland", and "Finland/Russia"! I guess that's why he was a blond kid.
The bulk of his DNA showed Iberia [31%] and Italy [25%], and the rest is a Heinz 57 variety. A lot of "low confidence" results. Ancestry put him into two "Genetic Communities": "Spaniards, Cubans, Dominicans and Venezuelans", and "Dominicans". Ancestry also shows you a map of your origins - where your genes are prevalent. We were surprised to see that in Spain they are heavy along the entire northern coast of Spain, and barely sprinkled in southern Spain - where his ancestors migrated to DR from [Andalusia & Canary Islands]. Also shows heavily in Cuba. On the DR map, there are two huge blobs/circles, one in northern DR [his father's family was from Montecristi originally] and one in Santo Domingo [his mother's family settled in San Carlos way back when]. It's amazing what a little spit can tell these people.
What really surprised me - a lot - was that he has 525 DNA matches 4th cousin and closer. I only have 123. I guess a LOT more Dominicans than we thought are being tested.
Mr. AE's DNA results came in this week, a couple of surprises. No Middle Eastern [well, "low confidence" 2%], which I expected because he looks like an Arab to me, but he did get 6% Northern African, so I guess he looks more Egyptian/Libyan
You were right. North African and Arab are NOT mutually exclusive ...Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya are Arabs countries, albeit with some mixing with Berbers and sub-Saharan Africans. Egypt is not really considered as part of North Africa since it is so far East.
A good friend of mine from Algeria came to DR with me, no one could believe she is wasn't Dominican. Even in NY, people address her in Spanish.
Very correct, but this part of Hispaniola's history is highly neglected when numerous books have been written about this specific subject. One being by the Dominican/Spanish historian Carlos Esteban Deive " La Española y la esclavitud del indio " who explains and describes very well, how many different NA groups have been deported as slaves into la Hispaniola between the 16th and 17th century and those NA also took part to the Taino's culture and society disintegration (one cause was not recognizing Hispaniola's Tainos chiefs): From Florida, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Mexico, Venezuela, Guyana, Bahamas (Lucayos), Curacao, Brazil... etc, some being Tainos, other being Caribs or from different ethnic groups.
Even the Spanish archives from the AGI (Colección de documentos inéditos relativos al descubrimiento, conquista ...")...of that time speek about this NA Caribbean Slave Trade which was replaced at the end by the African Slave Trade. One of the famous slave trader in NA flesh being Lucas Vasquez de Ayllon from Santo Domingo. Francisco de Chicora is one of the famous NA slave kidnapped and deported in la Hispaniola.
French Side of la Hispaniola , received also (on much minor scales NA slaves) from North America (Canada and Current USA).
This is husband, his father and our daughter, about 10 years ago. All three the same face. Pure Dominican.
Actually, putting an s where it doesn't belong is a common local mistake. For example, "Yo no es ido" instead of "Yo no he ido".
Mr. AE's DNA results came in this week, a couple of surprises. No Middle Eastern [well, "low confidence" 2%], which I expected because he looks like an Arab to me, but he did get 6% Northern African, so I guess he looks more Egyptian/Libyan
Like his niece, he's 8% Native American, not a surprise, the cheekbones in his father's family are there. The surprises were Ireland, "Germany/Belgium/Netherlands/Switzerland", and "Finland/Russia"! I guess that's why he was a blond kid.
The bulk of his DNA showed Iberia [31%] and Italy [25%], and the rest is a Heinz 57 variety. A lot of "low confidence" results. Ancestry put him into two "Genetic Communities": "Spaniards, Cubans, Dominicans and Venezuelans", and "Dominicans". Ancestry also shows you a map of your origins - where your genes are prevalent. We were surprised to see that in Spain they are heavy along the entire northern coast of Spain, and barely sprinkled in southern Spain - where his ancestors migrated to DR from [Andalusia & Canary Islands]. Also shows heavily in Cuba. On the DR map, there are two huge blobs/circles, one in northern DR [his father's family was from Montecristi originally] and one in Santo Domingo [his mother's family settled in San Carlos way back when]. It's amazing what a little spit can tell these people.
What really surprised me - a lot - was that he has 525 DNA matches 4th cousin and closer. I only have 123. I guess a LOT more Dominicans than we thought are being tested.
The genetic community that I was placed? Dominican. I am so fascinated by how accurate Ancestry DNA is.
Naked Snake's 23andMe results
After a month of anxious waiting, here I am, people:
And here I am for referrence:
After a month of anxious waiting, here I am, people:
And here I am for referrence:
Snake, interesting about your 6.8% Native American, that seems to be an approximate recurring % among Dominicans. So much for the Indians being totally wiped out.
Mr. AE's DNA results came in this week, a couple of surprises. No Middle Eastern [well, "low confidence" 2%], which I expected because he looks like an Arab to me, but he did get 6% Northern African, so I guess he looks more Egyptian/Libyan
Like his niece, he's 8% Native American, not a surprise, the cheekbones in his father's family are there. The surprises were Ireland, "Germany/Belgium/Netherlands/Switzerland", and "Finland/Russia"! I guess that's why he was a blond kid.
The bulk of his DNA showed Iberia [31%] and Italy [25%], and the rest is a Heinz 57 variety. A lot of "low confidence" results. Ancestry put him into two "Genetic Communities": "Spaniards, Cubans, Dominicans and Venezuelans", and "Dominicans". Ancestry also shows you a map of your origins - where your genes are prevalent. We were surprised to see that in Spain they are heavy along the entire northern coast of Spain, and barely sprinkled in southern Spain - where his ancestors migrated to DR from [Andalusia & Canary Islands]. Also shows heavily in Cuba. On the DR map, there are two huge blobs/circles, one in northern DR [his father's family was from Montecristi originally] and one in Santo Domingo [his mother's family settled in San Carlos way back when]. It's amazing what a little spit can tell these people.
What really surprised me - a lot - was that he has 525 DNA matches 4th cousin and closer. I only have 123. I guess a LOT more Dominicans than we thought are being tested.
Hey AlterEgo, no Sub-Saharan African?
Yes, under "low confidence region" he has: Nigeria 2%, Cameroon/Congo 1%, Ivory Coast 1%, Mali <1%, Benin/Togo <1%, Africa Southeastern Bantu <1%. Also under 'low confidence' are European Jewish, Middle Eastern, Great Britain and Europe East.