I was wondering what is the exact spot that San Christobal came to shore?
Can't find the location on the web
Greetings
Johan
Can't find the location on the web
Greetings
Johan
Hillbilly said:First off, San Cristobal has little or nothing to do with the Admiral of the same name. The Saint was, before the revisions of Vatican II, the Patron saint of all travellers--as witnessed by the many statues and medallions on sunvisors and dashboards all over the US, in particular.
The first landfall that the Admiral made on the island now called Hispa?ola was near what is now Cap Haitian. The wreakage salvaged from the Santa Mar?a was used to make an improvised fort, called Navidad because of the feastday. It was peopled by those crew members that could not fit on the Pinta or the Ni?a. According to excavations at the site they lived a harsh existance until their poor manners caused the locals to wipe them out
FYI, these were very small caravels, perhaps, according to some estimates less than 70 feet.
From there, he worked his way eastward, against the tradwinds, noticing El Morro and dropping anchor at what is now known as La Isabela, at the mouth of the Bajabonico River to replenish water supplies. He looked into Luper?n Bay, making favorable comments in his journal, but the one he really liked was POP Bay. He said that the bay could hold the entire Spanish fleet. Because of the stong headwinds the Admiral continued eastward for a few more days before heading north towards the lattitudes of North Carolina and the winds that would take him back to Portugal and Spain.
On his second trip he established a town at La Isabela and erected buildings there. The first Mass was said there on January 6th. You can still see where the stones for the town were cut for transport to the site. The quarry is right there next to the road..
HB
I probably should have checked my sources, but off the top of my head, this is what I have.
Hillbilly said:is said to have made 11 trips back and forth.??
I wasn't sure about whether there were one or two of the caravels, but I knew he was on the outs with the Pinzons. In fact, some writers feel that if it had been up to them they would have left the admiral there on the reef. While they were "faking " that they didn't see his plight, Columbus fired a cannon, and, apparently because some of the crew insisted, they returned for the shipwreaked crew....
Amazing ships thos caravels...a wonderful technological marvel of 15th century naval architecture.
HB
Mirador said:the issue is still unresoved, just like Chris Columbus' final resting place. According to prestigious archaeologists, there's a place near Ouanaminthe which seems the most probably place, but don't tell that to the Dominicans ;-)
Hillbilly said:all of its voyages with the Admiral. It went back and forth, like I said, 11 times!! Truly amazing..
HB
carina said:Christopher Columbus died in Valladolid, Spain, on May 20, 1506, at the age of 54. He had suffered through a long terminal illness that first showed symptoms on his third voyage eight years before.
According to his son Fernando, the cause of death was "gout." But in those days, gout was a catchall diagnosis for anything that caused joint pain. Recent research by Gerald Weissmann indicates that the most likely cause of death was Reiter's Syndrome, a rare tropical disease.
Upon his death, Columbus was initially buried in a small cemetary in Valladolid. Shortly thereafter, his body was moved to Seville. When Columbus' eldest son and heir Diego died in 1526, he was buried beside his father.
But Diego's widow petitioned the Spanish court to move both bodies to the cathedral in Santo Domingo on Hispaniola. So the remains of Columbus were moved across the Atlantic, and were buried under the right side of the altar in the cathedral in Santo Domingo. And there matters stood for two centuries.
In 1795, France captured the island of Hispaniola from Spain. By this time, the Spanish viewed the Admiral's remains as a national treasure, and wanted to prevent their capture by the French at all costs. So, relying on old records, they dug up the remains and removed them to Havana, Cuba. A century later, when Cuba won independence from Spain, the remains were moved again, from Havana back across the ocean to Seville. And so, if you visit the cathedral in Seville today, you will find the tomb of Columbus.
But that's not the whole story. In 1877, workers were restoring the cathedral in Santo Domingo and found, under the left side of the altar, a box containing human remains. The box bore Columbus's name. It immediately became clear to some that the "left" and "right" sides of the altar depend entirely upon the direction one is facing. And therefore, some argue, the body that had been moved to Havana in 1795 was really that of Diego, while the Admiral's remains had been in Santo Domingo all along. And so, if you visit the cathedral in Santo Domingo today, you will find another tomb of Columbus.
Meanwhile, one historian has argued that the wrong body was moved from Havana to Seville, and therefore, Columbus's remains are really in Havana. And another historian argues that Columbus's remains never left Valladolid! Furthermore, portions of the remains in Seville were given to the city of Genoa in 1892 as part of the quadricentennial celebration.
Recently, Spanish scientists tried DNA analysis to answer the question. As it turned out, DNA was not even necessary: a cursory examination of the bones showed that they must have been those of Columbus's sickly son Diego, not the Admiral himself. So the discoverer's final resting place is in Santo Domingo after all.
Stodgord said:Carina,
I know in October of 2003, that DNA of Christopher Columbus were being performed by the Spanish and that the Dominican Gov't were reluctant to allow researcher to touch their remains, but I never heard anything on the result of the test that the spanish did on their remains, let alone that they (Spanish researcher) consede on the final resting place of Columbus. Can you please provide a link to that report please. Thank you.
For some reason, I wasn't able to find this book on Amazon.com.carina said:Hi, its a book. The life of Columbus.
K. Benjamin
rellosk said:For some reason, I wasn't able to find this book on Amazon.com.
My mistake. I thought the book you were referring to was an answer to Stodgord's question regarding the results of the DNA testing.carina said:I think it is over 20 or 30 years old. If I remember right I bought it either in Sweden, Jamaica or Miami at some stage..
Its a big, big book, over 1500 pages, with leather cover..
carina said:I think it is over 20 or 30 years old. If I remember right I bought it either in Sweden, Jamaica or Miami at some stage..
Its a big, big book, over 1500 pages, with leather cover..