Frank Reyes' Loyal fanbase in the Dominican Republic.

dv8

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i said many times that dominican law is flawed with their definition of a minor. alas, it is what it is. this minor is a willing prostitute and that fact should also be taken into account. community service and probation would be a sufficient punishment for taking that bite. suspended sentence at the most.
 

Aguaita29

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A quick question and just wondering about a tricky situation:
Given that this "mother" and daughter combination do this all the time, I can see the street verdict is that they are guilty. What are your feelings regarding the obligation to follow the rule of law?

In the States it would be plain but in the Dominican Republic it's not so much.

I think that if you had sex with a minor, you should be punished. It doesn't matter if you've been "seduced". If an undercover cop buys drugs from you, you'd be punished too. It doesn't matter if he looked you up. You'd be selling drugs to other people anyway. Same thing when someone tries to find a hit man to kill their "significant" other. You're an adult, no one is putting a gun to your head to force you to do these things! You'd do them anyways.
 

dv8

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cases like this make me angry. minor or not this gal and her mother are both prostitutes. this should be taken as extenuation.
 

the gorgon

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cases like this make me angry. minor or not this gal and her mother are both prostitutes. this should be taken as extenuation.

i agree, to a point. she and her mother might very well be the scum of the earth. however, if this guy Reyes did in fact bang her, his ass should go to jail. why can't he find a woman of the age of majority? what is with all these guys here who want 14 year old children? are they living in a state of perpetual adolescence?
 

DR_Guy

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If there is no evidence, then the case sits for six months and then the charges are dropped. Pretty sure there is no evidence cuz it probably didn't happen IMHO.
 

dv8

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i agree, to a point. she and her mother might very well be the scum of the earth. however, if this guy Reyes did in fact bang her, his ass should go to jail. why can't he find a woman of the age of majority? what is with all these guys here who want 14 year old children? are they living in a state of perpetual adolescence?

have you seen the pictures of that gal? she does not look 15. who asks for a cedula here? not to mention that there are plenty of fake cedulas anyways. if he drilled her and knew she was underage his mistake, he should get a suspended sentence. if he did not know where is his fault?
 

Berzin

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We live in a world where children are sexualized at an early age. The DR is one of the worst offenders. When it happens once, you are looking at a situation where the individual on either side needs a change of mindset.

When it's culturally ingrained, what are you going to do?

Keep in mind some expats love the DR because the country represents anarchy to them. You can do whatever you want, whenever you want to do it. Dominicans feel exactly the same way. No rules. Well, there are rules, but the weak, ineffective, and corrupt judicial system makes it so that you can get out of any entanglement with a fist full of pesos if they are handed to the right people.

And on a micro level, we have instances where the mothers are in cahoots in prostituting their own daughters. This woman is an absolute pig for what she did to her daughter, but regardless of how much in cahoots the daughter was in all this, she is still 15 years old.

Here is another point-Frank Reyes has no business even knowing these type of people. I run into this all the time. Young guys who say they are going to either the DR or Colombia bragging about how the're going to hang out with some drug dealer or other type of hustler who has a mansion and a yacht. Ask them if they know anyone from the professional ranks and they look at you like you're crazy.

Reyes may have been trolling the gutters for his fun, and because of that he put himself at risk for no reason. Discretion goes out the window with these types because barrio lowlives are harder to corral than a wild warthog covered in Vaseline. Whether you pay them off in exchange for silence or not, they'll still find a way to wreck things for you if you let the situation get out of control.

Someone from the upper classes, someone with something to lose (like a reputation) and a sense of shame, is more likely to keep things quiet.

Reyes should not have had these people on his farm to shovel chicken shiit, much less socializing with them.

Regardless of what happens going forward, some are going to look at these two (the mother and the daughter) as straight-up whores. Everyone else is going to question Reyes and others will never see him the same way again. Either way he loses.
 

dv8

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the thing is that frank reyes lives off people like that. they buy his music, go to his concerts. he cannot keep them at a distance at all times. or else they will say he is too proud and forgot where he came from. he needs to interact with his fans. this will be a lesson for many, thou: don't ever communicate with people like that without witnesses and do not leave yourself exposed to any speculation.
 

Criss Colon

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This case is the perfect example of why, in OVER 28 years of screwing Dominicanas, I have checked the "Cedula" of each & every one of them!!!
A man can't be TOO CAREFUL!
"WTF"??????????????????????????
My "Nose Is GROWING"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's just that I have the uncanny gift of being able to tell if a girl is 18 yeas old, just my looking at her!!!!!!
"Jesus", it's "growing",...AGAIN!!!!!

Well, I bet Frank was "EXPOSED" at some point during this ephisode!!!!!!
 

Berzin

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the thing is that frank reyes lives off people like that. they buy his music, go to his concerts. he cannot keep them at a distance at all times. or else they will say he is too proud and forgot where he came from. he needs to interact with his fans. this will be a lesson for many, thou: don't ever communicate with people like that without witnesses and do not leave yourself exposed to any speculation.

You can acknowledge your fanbase and be close to them without having certain types of women visit you at your house for the purposes of engaging in adult leisure activities. Is signing autographs at public events and concerts not enough?

If you don't maintain your composure and state clear boundaries when around people of lesser abilities and accomplishments, you run the risk of losing respect. Some people from the lower classes love engaging in celebrity gossip when one of them slips up. They take pride that said celebrity is "just like us", meaning they are just as classless as they are.

This is why parents lose their kids, when they would rather be friends as opposed to parents. If you play around with a child and he slaps you in the face and laughs, he does so because the child has become convinced, from the interaction, that you are on the same level as he/she.

Reyes has access to a better and more discreet class of hoochie, and in greater amounts, than the average guy. The fact that he chose this path, if he indeed did so, dictates there is something wrong with his lifestyle choices. He obviously forgot that whatever Dominicans do to foreigners and expats they do to each other in far greater numbers.
 

Criss Colon

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You are forgetting Franks "Roots"!
He, like most "Bachateros" is used to this very type of conduct!
Baseball players as well.
I remember when a Dominican player for the Red Sox was dumbfounded when he was charged with statutory rape after having sex with a 15 year old girl in Boston many years ago.
He said it was "OK" to have sex with a 15 year old in thr DR!
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Dominican Republic as a society in general do not frown upon older men having sex with 15+ year old girls (it appears that 15 is the cut off age). That is why the general consensus on the street is that they are cueros and since he's great guy and a national jewel, they are the ones who are guilty.

If she was in the States, she would claim that she's been physically and mentally traumatized since child birth and that Reyes is just another adult who has taken advantage of her. He'll be bunking with Sandusky and she'll be paid big time $$$$.
 
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Dominican Republic as a society in general do not frown upon older men having sex with 15+ year old girls (it appears that 15 is the cut off age). That is why the general consensus on the street is that they are cueros and since he's great guy and a national jewel, they are the ones who are guilty.

If she was in the States, she would claim that she's been physically and mentally traumatized since child birth and that Reyes is just another adult who has taken advantage of her. He'll be bunking with Sandusky and she'll be paid big time $$$$.

She probably is, her mother gave birth to her when she was only 13. :ermm:
 

the gorgon

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have you seen the pictures of that gal? she does not look 15. who asks for a cedula here? not to mention that there are plenty of fake cedulas anyways. if he drilled her and knew she was underage his mistake, he should get a suspended sentence. if he did not know where is his fault?

why should he get a suspended sentence? Fausto the limpiabota would get hard time.
 

the gorgon

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We live in a world where children are sexualized at an early age. The DR is one of the worst offenders. When it happens once, you are looking at a situation where the individual on either side needs a change of mindset.

When it's culturally ingrained, what are you going to do?

Keep in mind some expats love the DR because the country represents anarchy to them. You can do whatever you want, whenever you want to do it. Dominicans feel exactly the same way. No rules. Well, there are rules, but the weak, ineffective, and corrupt judicial system makes it so that you can get out of any entanglement with a fist full of pesos if they are handed to the right people.

And on a micro level, we have instances where the mothers are in cahoots in prostituting their own daughters. This woman is an absolute pig for what she did to her daughter, but regardless of how much in cahoots the daughter was in all this, she is still 15 years old.

Here is another point-Frank Reyes has no business even knowing these type of people. I run into this all the time. Young guys who say they are going to either the DR or Colombia bragging about how the're going to hang out with some drug dealer or other type of hustler who has a mansion and a yacht. Ask them if they know anyone from the professional ranks and they look at you like you're crazy.

Reyes may have been trolling the gutters for his fun, and because of that he put himself at risk for no reason. Discretion goes out the window with these types because barrio lowlives are harder to corral than a wild warthog covered in Vaseline. Whether you pay them off in exchange for silence or not, they'll still find a way to wreck things for you if you let the situation get out of control.

Someone from the upper classes, someone with something to lose (like a reputation) and a sense of shame, is more likely to keep things quiet.

Reyes should not have had these people on his farm to shovel chicken shiit, much less socializing with them.

Regardless of what happens going forward, some are going to look at these two (the mother and the daughter) as straight-up whores. Everyone else is going to question Reyes and others will never see him the same way again. Either way he loses.

and he should lose. the girl might be as fine as frog hair, but she is barrio riff raff, and someone with his exposure and opportunities should act the part, and stop trolling for underage lowlife.

or is this a case of " you can't shine sh^t"?
 

the gorgon

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