Getting ready to remove the curfew?

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Russell

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Where i live the only anoying noise is the dog who showed up almost dead from starvation ind injured. We nursed him back to health...my reward is night howler, mean JYD (Junk Yard Dog).
Other than that the rooster crows too early..him we can eat....dog soup...NOT.
Lofe in el campo. Quiet peaceful , secure... think i shall replace dog with geese.
Them we can eat.
 

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Where i live the only anoying noise is the dog who showed up almost dead from starvation ind injured. We nursed him back to health...my reward is night howler, mean JYD (Junk Yard Dog).
Other than that the rooster crows too early..him we can eat....dog soup...NOT.
Lofe in el campo. Quiet peaceful , secure... think i shall replace dog with geese.
Them we can eat.

Geese? Have you ever had geese before? They're beyond mean! lol
 

Eugene_A

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The plan is to turn the whole of the zona colonial into a massive tourist area with 2m visitors per year so it's not going to get better in terms of noise.
It will never happen. It's not San Juan (PR) or Cartagena. They will be lucky if El Conde will be as crowded with tourists as it was in 2003-2005. It all started to die long before Covid, and all so-called renovations of some streets did not make it better. There will be some buses (probably mini-buses) with tourists on a day trip from Punta Cana, but nobody will plan to stay all trip in Santo Domingo's Zona Colonial like they do in Old Town of San Juan or in Walled City of Cartagena. And for the most of those tourists on a day trip the only place to visit is a couple of souvenir stores on El Conde, so those bars in Zona Colonial is just a drop in the ocean for the tourist market, if they go out of business now, well, some new ones will open when Covid is over. Not a big deal, nothing to cry about, not a reason to remove the curfew.
 
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johne

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Clearly you aren't someone who is trying to make their living running a hospitality business. They are completely on their knees and mostly in a lot of debt.
Not many of us on board are in the hospitality business. That's a tough business from the get go. Many have had their good years I suppose. Maybe now that business needs to be re-structed?? Curfew at 9PM doesn't bother me a bit.
 

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but nobody will plan to stay all trip in Santo Domingo's Zona Colonial like they do in Old Town of San Juan or in Walled City of Cartagena.

The hotels are busy at the moment with people who are indeed staying all their trip in Santo Domingo. Has always been a popular destination. Not everyone likes all-inclusive resorts.
 
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Not many of us on board are in the hospitality business. That's a tough business from the get go. Many have had their good years I suppose. Maybe now that business needs to be re-structed?? Curfew at 9PM doesn't bother me a bit.

I just can't believe the devastation this has caused to so many Dominicans (and I stress not to me personally, I've come out of this fine). A guy who drove me home today ran an events business employed 18 staff, was doing well before the pandemic. Zero income since April 2020, lost his car, his house, 16 staff made redundant. Just one little business out of so many in the capital. Surely you can't just think of how things affect you personally, surely you have to be bothered what it's doing to Dominican lives?
 

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It will never happen. It's not San Juan (PR) or Cartagena. They will be lucky if El Conde will be as crowded with tourists as it was in 2003-2005. It all started to die long before Covid, and all so-called renovations of some streets did not make it better. There will be some buses (probably mini-buses) with tourists on a day trip from Punta Cana, but nobody will plan to stay all trip in Santo Domingo's Zona Colonial like they do in Old Town of San Juan or in Walled City of Cartagena. And for the most of those tourists on a day trip the only place to visit is a couple of souvenir stores on El Conde, so those bars in Zona Colonial is just a drop in the ocean for the tourist market, if they go out of business now, well, some new ones will open when Covid is over. Not a big deal, nothing to cry about, not a reason to remove the curfew.
I get the feeling you're not up to speed on the hotels in the Colonial Zone. There are quite a few really nice places and not many are for budget travelers.

And let's not forget the big hotels in Sun Gallery, Blue Mall, Malecon Center, and others not for budget travelers either.

All through the pandemic, I have been checking them for weekend deals and almost none of them have them. Many of them don't even have rooms available unless you book in advance.
 
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I get the feeling you're not up to speed on the hotels in the Colonial Zone. There are quite a few really nice places and not many are for budget travelers.

And let's not forget the big hotels in Sun Gallery, Blue Mall, Malecon Center, and others not for budget travelers either.

All through the pandemic, I have been checking them for weekend deals and almost none of them have them. Many of them don't even have rooms available unless you book in advance.

The Renaissance on the SD malecon is Exhibit A. Super expensive for the RD. But also very nice.
 

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The Renaissance on the SD malecon is Exhibit A. Super expensive for the RD. But also very nice.
Jump on Booking.com some time and search for Santo Domingo. There's 47 just in the Zona Colonial for that matter.

Lots of big bucks places.
 
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I just can't believe the devastation this has caused to so many Dominicans (and I stress not to me personally, I've come out of this fine). A guy who drove me home today ran an events business employed 18 staff, was doing well before the pandemic. Zero income since April 2020, lost his car, his house, 16 staff made redundant. Just one little business out of so many in the capital. Surely you can't just think of how things affect you personally, surely you have to be bothered what it's doing to Dominican lives?
And surely the pain, suffering, broken dreams and lives is not limited to our little island here in the Caribbean. The examples you lay out here are amplified thousands upon thousand times a day across the world. Since this is a DR related only board I won't take this any further other than to say your examples here, stated above, are not sufficient or compelling, IMHO, to alter the hours of the current curfew.It is not a lesson or piece of education to show me how much suffering is going on in the DR. I live here, work here(unpaid) and have an exposure to a very, very poor village that shows me every day of the week how fortunate I am.
 

Eugene_A

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The hotels are busy at the moment with people who are indeed staying all their trip in Santo Domingo. Has always been a popular destination. Not everyone likes all-inclusive resorts.
Like I said, it's a drop in the ocean. You can't compare Zona Colonial to San Juan or Cartagena, it's not that big, not that beautiful, so not that many visitors. And vice versa, Colombian or Puerto Rican beaches are nothing comparing to Punta Cana. You may like it or not, but all Dominican tourism is about Punta Cana and all-inclusive resorts. Most visitors going to Punta Cana have no idea that the country name is Dominican Republic, they go to Punta Cana, that's it. So if the curfew forced some bars in Santo Domingo to shut down, it doesn't change the whole picture. And the whole picture is that the 9 PM curfew itself doesn't affect Dominican tourism, because who and why would leave an all-inclusive resort in Bavaro after 9 PM anyway?

My point is that the 9 PM curfew has more positive effect on Santo Domingo than negative. Yes, some noisy and stinky places are shut down, that affects dozens of business owners and hundreds of employees. But hundreds of thousands of citizens sleep better at night because noise is down, burglaries are down, isn't that good?
 

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It will never happen. It's not San Juan (PR) or Cartagena. They will be lucky if El Conde will be as crowded with tourists as it was in 2003-2005. It all started to die long before Covid, and all so-called renovations of some streets did not make it better. There will be some buses (probably mini-buses) with tourists on a day trip from Punta Cana, but nobody will plan to stay all trip in Santo Domingo's Zona Colonial like they do in Old Town of San Juan or in Walled City of Cartagena. And for the most of those tourists on a day trip the only place to visit is a couple of souvenir stores on El Conde, so those bars in Zona Colonial is just a drop in the ocean for the tourist market, if they go out of business now, well, some new ones will open when Covid is over. Not a big deal, nothing to cry about, not a reason to remove the curfew.

Curfews no good buddy.
If ya don't like the culture perhaps ya should try living somewhere else.
 

Caonabo

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I get the feeling you're not up to speed on the hotels in the Colonial Zone. There are quite a few really nice places and not many are for budget travelers.

And let's not forget the big hotels in Sun Gallery, Blue Mall, Malecon Center, and others not for budget travelers either.

All through the pandemic, I have been checking them for weekend deals and almost none of them have them. Many of them don't even have rooms available unless you book in advance.

While agreed, you must concur that the niche for "boutique" hotels has run it's course. Pre-C19 as well.
They were pretty as they lasted, but did not possess longterm solvency, at least here within RD.
 

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Like I said, it's a drop in the ocean. You can't compare Zona Colonial to San Juan or Cartagena, it's not that big, not that beautiful, so not that many visitors. And vice versa, Colombian or Puerto Rican beaches are nothing comparing to Punta Cana. You may like it or not, but all Dominican tourism is about Punta Cana and all-inclusive resorts. Most visitors going to Punta Cana have no idea that the country name is Dominican Republic, they go to Punta Cana, that's it. So if the curfew forced some bars in Santo Domingo to shut down, it doesn't change the whole picture. And the whole picture is that the 9 PM curfew itself doesn't affect Dominican tourism, because who and why would leave an all-inclusive resort in Bavaro after 9 PM anyway?

My point is that the 9 PM curfew has more positive effect on Santo Domingo than negative. Yes, some noisy and stinky places are shut down, that affects dozens of business owners and hundreds of employees. But hundreds of thousands of citizens sleep better at night because noise is down, burglaries are down, isn't that good?
You honestly think it has effected only dozens of business owners and "hundreds" of employees??? You truly have no clue. Oh yea, and by the way Santo Domingo is not the country. These shut downs have done much more damage to the population than the Wuhan Virus.
 
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Caonabo

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I know what the word 'culture' means. Noisy behavior is the lack of culture. Crimes at night are not part of the culture either. Curfew helps a lot with both. So let's agree to disagree.

I have disagreed with you before, and even poked fun.
I happen to agree with you on this, and yes, that is what this community is about.
We can ALL agree to disagree at times, and for SOME, ALL the time.
I happen to believe that you are correct with your asseverations in regards to this topic.
 

Eugene_A

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You honestly think it has effected only dozens of business owners and "hundreds" of employees??? You truly have no clue. Oh yea, and by the way Santo Domingo is not the country. These shut downs have done much more damage to the population than the Wuhan Virus.
What exact damage to the population the 9 PM curfew does? Please describe. Because most people in DR stay at home after 9 PM anyway. Most people who stay outside after 9 PM, just make unnecessary noise in the streets. People who have to work 24/7, like doctors, transportation, etc., have their permits to do so.
 
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