Girl Missing from RIU Hotel in Punta Cana

jose949

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When his conflicting stories first surfaced I was wondering if the FBI ran his name. You know kids like that follow a pattern. It never fails
Yes, one never knows. They look like traffic infractions on the surface. This is what they showed:
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El Hijo de Manolo

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Just wanted to make sure you got proper credit!
I think the various media outlets announced the granting of HC because that was the big headline. That said, the fact that it is not widely published that they are going to continue to hold the passport and this unconfirmed next hearing date of M28, is a sign they have more evidence or probable cause. They may not be announcing it to the global media because that's like feeding chum to sharks. Just like in the States, when you're going to be indicted, the FBI has already built a substantial part of the case prior to raiding your business or home, etc.
 

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I think the various media outlets announced the granting of HC because that was the big headline. That said, the fact that it is not widely published that they are going to continue to hold the passport and this unconfirmed next hearing date of M28, is a sign they have more evidence or probable cause. They may not be announcing it to the global media because that's like feeding chum to sharks. Just like in the States, when you're going to be indicted, the FBI has already built a substantial part of the case prior to raiding your business or home, etc.
This outcome is what i posted in #1028. They now have 10 more days to come up with a reason to charge him.
 
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There's no point in talking about "if" the government gives them a death certificate - they're not. And it doesn't matter "if" anything - no PR disaster and no massive lawsuit. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

So,. Going back to my Previous question then, WHY did the Parents Lawyer even ASK for it then ?
Because He's just an Idiot ?
Or because he just made them blink . (they claim accidental drowning, but they refuse to put it in writing .)
Your Boy Cielo sure will be disappointed, because he seemed to think there would be no problem issuing the Death Cert .
 

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I never saw any mention of the parent's lawyer(?). The parents themselves sent a letter requesting a death certificate.

Ok,. well then watch this Video, Just one of many places which mentions it .
.. Listen to the Lawyer speak as to WHY the Parents would ask for it
"strategic" is repeated several times .
Why would you think they just thought of this on their own ? its the LAST piece of paper these parents would want . except if there is a specific strategy behind it . and I DOUBT its just for the Insurance Money .. they dont need the money .

They definitely are being advised by Legal Counsel .. and a good one .
Why is this so hard to understand ?
 
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jose949

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You're not a criminal for traffic violations. Traffic deals are not criminal offenses.
Yes, they are not criminal in nature, though fleeing from officers can rise to that level, he likely got a plea deal for the other charges to be pled down to one charge. His age then may also have been considered. He doesn't have a DR bank account and he is getting a free room and meals. The lawyers wouldn't cost anywhere close to $50K, whether true or not, its not an amount one could carry around in cash easily. How did it get into the media or was it a clever way of signaling how his problems might be solved?
 

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From the Fox News article linked in #1089 "prosecutors argued that he lost his passport." Isn't that a very Dominican thing to say? :) "I gave it to you...no you didn't...yes I did..." So all Riibe needed to do was go to the Embassy for a new one and he could leave? Riiiight! And, I don't recall any prior mention of his friend also having his passport confiscated until its return yesterday.

It will be interesting to see what comes from the hearing on the 28th...IMO, if nothing new comes to light, Riibe should be allowed to leave. There are processes for extradition at a later date if the need arises; it makes no sense to hold him interminably hoping to be justified in doing so at some point.
 
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This is interesting and may be the reason the parents want her declared deceased:

In Hinduism, after death, the soul continues to exist and is reborn into a new body based on individual karma. This cycle of birth and rebirth is known as samsara, and it continues until the individual achieves moksha, which is liberation from the cycle of rebirth. Hindus perform various rituals and ceremonies to honor the deceased and help the soul move on to its next reincarnation, including cremation, offerings to the gods, and prayers. The Vedas describe two paths after death: one where the deceased travels to a heaven occupied by ancestors and is ultimately reborn, and another where the deceased enters a realm at the sun and never returns, equivalent to reaching nirvana and escaping reincarnation.
So in short, she must be declared dead so she can move on to the next cycle.
Yes. Those were my thoughts exactly.
 
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Fascinating conjecture at the alleged motivations for asking for a death certificate. I fully expect the 7 year rule back in her home state will be the way for her death to be official.

What does an official death certificate have to do with an actual death when it comes to being a Hindu? Certainly their gods are aware if she is dead or not and that process of rebirth moves on regardless of if a piece of paper declaring her dead is issued. Of all the reasons for asking for her to be declared dead by the DR, I think that is the least likely.
 

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It will be interesting to see what comes from the hearing on the 28th...IMO, if nothing new comes to light, Riibe should be allowed to leave. There are processes for extradition at a later date if the need arises; it makes no sense to hold him interminably hoping to be justified in doing so at some point.
Any credible evidence allowing the justice department to remand him longer would have been presented at the HC hearing. It wasn’t. There is none. I posted previously a downsized search for her body will continue for a week or two then shut down. That would be done even if he had headed home yesterday. Keeping him here for another ten days is just a legal formality tying up loose ends, reaffirming the release order, and making sure justice is seen to be done.

I doubt the hearing hinges on justice department hopes her body will be recovered during the next ten days. The likelihood of her body being recovered in that time period is very low. If they did, all the justice depart could do is hold him further until an autopsy confirms the cause of death. A death by drowning diagnosis would make his release much easier for the justice department to swallow, allow them to issue a death certificate, and put the expensive investigation to bed.

He is going home sooner rather than later. Unless a witness crops up saying they witnessed him killing her and at this late stage of the investigation, that’s highly unlikely. The missing passport is not an issue. He can get a temporary passport from the US Embassy. It’s not like they don’t know him. Things in the DR have a way of resolving themselves. Not to everyone’s satisfaction but they do get resolved.
 

Ecoman1949

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Fascinating conjecture at the alleged motivations for asking for a death certificate. I fully expect the 7 year rule back in her home state will be the way for her death to be official.

What does an official death certificate have to do with an actual death when it comes to being a Hindu? Certainly their gods are aware if she is dead or not and that process of rebirth moves on regardless of if a piece of paper declaring her dead is issued. Of all the reasons for asking for her to be declared dead by the DR, I think that is the least likely.
Windy, If they are devout Hindus, then yes, religious beliefs are part of the reason for their death certificate request. The other reasons are legal closure to make legal matters stateside easier, and, though not even close to having her body, a death certificate does offer some degree of emotional closure.
 
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