My condolensces.
These are senseless deaths. How could these supposed caregivers live with themselves?
RIP little angels.
These are senseless deaths. How could these supposed caregivers live with themselves?
RIP little angels.
- Thread starter frank recktenwald
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Having a baby in the DR!!
I think that an unfortunate event like this is something that not only someone having a baby in the D.R. has to consider, but also elderly people, and anyone who has a serious health condition. Am I prepared for a health emergency in the D.R.? Not only financially but also logistically.
Yeah, there are certainly great Doctors and clinics here but, in the case of an emergency, will I have access to them?
Yeah, there are certainly great Doctors and clinics here but, in the case of an emergency, will I have access to them?
Something's screwy here. An American friend's American wife had her baby in a local public clinic 15 years ago for no cost but replacement of consumables from the local pharmacy. There's been some inflation, but this is ridiculous.
My daughter's mother is a RN at Rush University Medical Center and one of her good friends at the hospital works in the neonatal intensive care unit. I remember my daughter's mother always telling how stressful that job was for her and how sad it was for the parents.
I can find out exactly what the protocol is when a baby is not getting any air. I could be wrong because I do not work in a hospital, but my mother is a Respiratory Therapists and the lady my daughter's mother is friends with works in this unit.
I pretty sure there is suppose to be sometime of alarm that goes off to alert the staff that someone is in trouble. This I am pretty sure. For the babies to die because of lack of air in a hospital sounds very strange.
Like I said I will find out from a specialist what would make two babies stop breathing while in a incubator and nobody caught it in time to try and save them.
This sounds very very strange I have never heard anything like this. Even if the babies are not able to breathe for themselves are know there are machines that can do this for them.
I can find out exactly what the protocol is when a baby is not getting any air. I could be wrong because I do not work in a hospital, but my mother is a Respiratory Therapists and the lady my daughter's mother is friends with works in this unit.
I pretty sure there is suppose to be sometime of alarm that goes off to alert the staff that someone is in trouble. This I am pretty sure. For the babies to die because of lack of air in a hospital sounds very strange.
Like I said I will find out from a specialist what would make two babies stop breathing while in a incubator and nobody caught it in time to try and save them.
This sounds very very strange I have never heard anything like this. Even if the babies are not able to breathe for themselves are know there are machines that can do this for them.
No, like JMB said, this is odd, suffocating in an incubator, are those things even airtight? I know they regulate but I had no idea they were sole regulatory of air.
And there are hundreds of kids born in public hospitals every day, choice of birth place is not the issue here, absolute negligence is. Doesn't matter where they were born, they were born.
And there are hundreds of kids born in public hospitals every day, choice of birth place is not the issue here, absolute negligence is. Doesn't matter where they were born, they were born.
Agreed. Who's to say that the trip to the 2nd clinic didn't create further issues that compromised their health.
This is so very sad, I can't even imagine. The babies being born "black and blue" from a "lack of oxygen" is rather disturbing.
Since they were born premature, maybe they already had problems with their lungs??? Even in the US, premature babies need to be put on ventilator because they can't breath on their own, so who's to say that they died because the family could'nt pay the bill ???
OK...so, first I'd say that babies are not born "black and blue" from lack of oxygen. If someone says "black and blue", I'm assuming bruising?
Almost ALL babies are born some shade of blue, they begin to pink up once they start breathing but "black and blue"?
Anyway, I can't even begin to speculate without knowing the gestational age and exactly what happened during the birth. I'm first of all shocked as hell that there was a Dominican doctor who "allowed" her to birth vaginally. Even though it can be done, most Dominican doctors will forbid it for their patients. That's one of their "freak out" zones.....vaginal birth twins (even though we do it here all the time).
Also, an incubator does nothing for the babies breathing. The babies either needed to have a oxygen hood, nasal cannulas, or even C-Pap or be directly on a ventilator (which I doubt as the transfer most likely would have been forbidden). An incubator is more like a little "house" or closed off crib to keep the baby in to keep him warm, and away from the outside environment which carries lots of bacteria and germs. The incubators have heat controls but an incubator alone does not provide oxygen usually. You must have a C-Pap machine to supply C-Pap, you must have the hood, or tent to provide free flow oxygen, or you must have a nasal cannula in the baby's nose giving it oxygen. the incubator does not do that. Also, all NICU babies (or at least in the US) have a monitor on that alarms if the saturation of oxygen in the baby's blood is getting low....and the alarm sounds when this STARTS so the baby can be assisted.
I am Labor and Delivery, not NICU but I know the basics of sick babies. Also, I had a placental abruption at 36 weeks with Victor and he was on C-Pap for 36 hours and received blood, bili lights, etc...so I know a little bit about NICU routine. Victor stayed in NICU 6 days.
I feel so bad for this family. I could speculate all day on what happened but without knowing some pertinent information, it wouldn't be fair.
Because, at this time, I have no idea if it was something during the birth, the transfer, or the subsequent admission to the 2nd NICU that caused their deaths.
SHALENA
Almost ALL babies are born some shade of blue, they begin to pink up once they start breathing but "black and blue"?
Anyway, I can't even begin to speculate without knowing the gestational age and exactly what happened during the birth. I'm first of all shocked as hell that there was a Dominican doctor who "allowed" her to birth vaginally. Even though it can be done, most Dominican doctors will forbid it for their patients. That's one of their "freak out" zones.....vaginal birth twins (even though we do it here all the time).
Also, an incubator does nothing for the babies breathing. The babies either needed to have a oxygen hood, nasal cannulas, or even C-Pap or be directly on a ventilator (which I doubt as the transfer most likely would have been forbidden). An incubator is more like a little "house" or closed off crib to keep the baby in to keep him warm, and away from the outside environment which carries lots of bacteria and germs. The incubators have heat controls but an incubator alone does not provide oxygen usually. You must have a C-Pap machine to supply C-Pap, you must have the hood, or tent to provide free flow oxygen, or you must have a nasal cannula in the baby's nose giving it oxygen. the incubator does not do that. Also, all NICU babies (or at least in the US) have a monitor on that alarms if the saturation of oxygen in the baby's blood is getting low....and the alarm sounds when this STARTS so the baby can be assisted.
I am Labor and Delivery, not NICU but I know the basics of sick babies. Also, I had a placental abruption at 36 weeks with Victor and he was on C-Pap for 36 hours and received blood, bili lights, etc...so I know a little bit about NICU routine. Victor stayed in NICU 6 days.
I feel so bad for this family. I could speculate all day on what happened but without knowing some pertinent information, it wouldn't be fair.
Because, at this time, I have no idea if it was something during the birth, the transfer, or the subsequent admission to the 2nd NICU that caused their deaths.
SHALENA
Going off the information that they suffocated the children. After Shalenas comment it doesn't look like that is the case and so maybe they could hold the bodies till payment was made. I know a lady who's child died at birth and they did hold the body till payment was made, I can understand that. But if the hospital is responsible for killing the babies, no way would or could they withhold. Then again, one thing for a 'wealthy' gringo, another for a vocal dominican. Best way to get anything done here is go to the press, the GA firm taught me that a few years ago.
Sorry. Didn't mean to "dislike" your post, actually, I didn't mean to "like" it either. I wanted to "reply with quote" and ended up clicking everything else but that.
I think, (I'm not sure), that if they didn't pay, even if they thought the hospital was at fault, the hospital could hold on to the bodies until an autopsy and/or investigation was done. And I would not trust the results of the "investigation" depending on who was handling it.
SHALENA