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Typical neighborhoods in Spain. The photos are from Torremolinos, but they can be from anywhere in much of Spain where residential streets are like Dominican ones regarding the frontal fences and bars on windows.

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Around the Madrid, Spain area.

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In the USA you will not see bars unless in some rough neighborhoods and many neighborhoods don't even have fences. In the New England section of the USA it's common to see houses with white picket fences, but just as is the case with verjas or frontal fences in the DR, they are mostly done for tradition than anything else.
 

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but in an appartement on a second or third floor I find it redundant.
I had a guy coming in through the window on third floor, he walked away with my laptop. This guy climbed up at the end of the building and walked on a 1 ft concrete beam on the third floor over to my apartment. The window was half open I didn't expect any intruders at that level, I was wrong. We saw what had happened from the camera recordings across the street, couldn't see his face but could see the movements. But the guy was "too smart" he stole a passport from another apartment and was caught on that. He probably sold my laptop but he couldn't sell a biometric passport.
 
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I am a huge fan of dannert wire or concertina wire. If it is too aggressive aesthetically for your taste, cut a 10- or 12-foot piece and place it some shrubs or hedges. Any scoundrel that makes it through will be easy to spot. He will be naked and bleeding.
 

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In the USA you will not see bars unless in some rough neighborhoods and many neighborhoods don't even have fences. In the New England section of the USA it's common to see houses with white picket fences, but just as is the case with verjas or frontal fences in the DR, they are mostly done for tradition than anything else.
You must have never been in Miami since the Cuban boat lift.
 
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In France and especially in Paris they have the most beautiful and decorative iron lace work on windows and doors . I am rather proud of the decorative wrought iron doors on each side of my home , painted in bronze, which were made by Artistico in La Romana. I think the plain iron bars are fairly awful and very much like living in a prison when for just a little more ,the metal doors and screens could be works of art as is the case in Paris. Hasta Luego.
 
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You must have never been in Miami since the Cuban boat lift.
Yes I have, but those places are exceptions similar to how rare it's to find an area with a very tropical like climate in the USA.
 

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Yes I have, but those places are exceptions similar to how rare it's to find an area with a very tropical like climate in the USA.
Apples to Oranges

It's not an exception when it's a "apple-to-apple / oranges-to-oranges" actual comparison of living conditions.

The D.R. and Miami are similar due to the LARGE Hispanic population in Miami, thus more relevant to answering the question of the OP (hierros-or-no-hierro).

Your response does not give a true answer to the question with such a non-realistic comparison.

I doubt the Cubans are doing hierros because it's fashionable.
 
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Unbelievable...you guys are checking dominican streets to proof what ?! Dominicans are the biggest chickens i ever meet in my entire live. There is no need to go to google street view to proof this. I have seen Iron bars at the 16th floor (Spiderman might climb down from the 17th floor and grab their 32" TV). Dominicans are afraid of their own shadow.
 

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Unbelievable...you guys are checking dominican streets to proof what ?! Dominicans are the biggest chickens i ever meet in my entire live. There is no need to go to google street view to proof this. I have seen Iron bars at the 16th floor (Spiderman might climb down from the 17th floor and grab their 32" TV. Dominicans are afraid of their own shadow.

My Dominican brother-in-law lives in a nice condo in El Million, 3rd floor. They awoke one morning to realize they’d been burglarized. Entry was apparently through the balcony where a very skinny person (or child) squeezed through and maybe opened the door for someone else. They took his wallet and watch off the nightstand next to his head, and things from his children’s rooms while they all slept. Thank God they didn’t wake up. Now they added additional bars.
 

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One also needs to take into consideration that many affluent homes have integral bars built into their windows.
 

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My Dominican brother-in-law lives in a nice condo in El Million, 3rd floor. They awoke one morning to realize they’d been burglarized. Entry was apparently through the balcony where a very skinny person (or child) squeezed through and maybe opened the door for someone else. They took his wallet and watch off the nightstand next to his head, and things from his children’s rooms while they all slept. Thank God they didn’t wake up. Now they added additional bars.
That happened to me and one of my neighbors as well. It turned out to be a gang using young kids who had no problem slipping through bars.
 
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My Dominican brother-in-law lives in a nice condo in El Million, 3rd floor. They awoke one morning to realize they’d been burglarized. Entry was apparently through the balcony where a very skinny person (or child) squeezed through and maybe opened the door for someone else. They took his wallet and watch off the nightstand next to his head, and things from his children’s rooms while they all slept. Thank God they didn’t wake up. Now they added additional bars.
That is exactly the point ..... "My Dominican Brother in Law" , a "Friend of a Friend" etc etc , Everybody here is feeding on Horror stories with one motive only; Try to justify Being a Chicken.
 
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Don't get me wrong here, i am not advocating to leave your valet on the table in your garden during the Night but everything has his Limits.
You can spend a million on iron bars and alcatraz your self into your home and "Julio" showes up with a wireless hydraulic cutter (ebay 190$) that cuts all your bars within seconds without making any noise.
 

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Remember:

Metal bars won't stop thieves from using long poles(sticks,etc.) to reach between the bars and stealing things.

It happened to my neighbor.
 

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Don't get me wrong here, i am not advocating to leave your valet on the table in your garden during the Night but everything has his Limits.
You can spend a million on iron bars and alcatraz your self into your home and "Julio" showes up with a wireless hydraulic cutter (ebay 190$) that cuts all your bars within seconds without making any noise.
Many times the thieves go in the house through the front door like everybody else. Would be interesting to see if it's like murders, since most knew for a long time who killed them.
 

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That is exactly the point ..... "My Dominican Brother in Law" , a "Friend of a Friend" etc etc , Everybody here is feeding on Horror stories with one motive only; Try to justify Being a Chicken.
My uncle's house was broken into last year. Granted, the thieve was well known to the family as he had been to the house on multiple occasions.

But that doesn't mean the widespread use of bars in cement homes and frontal fences with a wall surrounding the property isn't traditional. As has been said before, you can't correctly judge the security situation in a neighborhood based on thise things, because almost everywhere they are universal regardless if the area is safe or not.

There are some countries where bars means high criminality because its mostly found in those type of neighborhoods, but there are other countries known for having an even higher crime wave thsn the DR and you will hardly see bars anywhere.

Some aspects are mostly cultural. It's like in the USA seeing a plot of land with litter is a sign of you're not in a nice neighborhood since that is never seen outside of ghettos, yet in the DR you can't truly judge a neighborhood by whether you see plots of land with litter on them. Even in public nice neighborhoods you will see that from time to time. The same with litter strewn on the side of the roads and highway. In the DR this means nothing since it's almost everywhere. There are countries that are much poorer than the DR, yet you will not see much litter anywhere.
 
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Remember:

Metal bars won't stop thieves from using long poles(sticks,etc.) to reach between the bars and stealing things.

It happened to my neighbor.

This is true, and has been for many decades. Back in early 1970s Mr AE laid his tuxedo on his bed while he took a shower before work (back when casino workers wore them). He walked into the bedroom to see his jacket moving across to the window on a long stick.
 

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We also live in El Millon and have "hierros". There was never a question not to have them. My in-laws had a home in Santo Domingo in a very exclusive area, they also had them. I do not think it is a matter of "being chicken", it is more of better safe than sorry.
 
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