Referring to another post here where someone wanted to criminilize guns I would propose criminilizing motos and get every moto under 500cc taken off the road. You would save far more lifes and eliminate far more injuries then eliminating guns. Just my two cents as I absolutely HATE motos in this country. I liken it to driving with a bunch of nats and flys buzzing around your head all day long.
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Hola, motociclistas! New Motorcycles Coming to the DR!
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well y dont u do something about it....u could contribute $ to lower peeps fares.......what are u doing here....????go to santiago where there are alot more cars...
Oooh, I'm liking the RX3, and was going to ask about how much discount is available for early orders, but now that you say there will be a 450cc variant coming next year, I may wait for that one. Either way, nice looking bikes and I may well be a customer soon.
The 450cc will most likely be introduced Q1 2018, so you'll be waiting 2 years...
Of course no pricing yet, but I expect it to be more than the RX3 by a good amount. It will require stiffer frame, brakes & suspension.
The RX3 is more street biased than offroad, perfect for the DR. No idea how the 450 will be positioned.
We anticipate a strong secondary market for the RX3, so an upgrade in two years shouldn't be much of a hit if any at all...
Motorcycles Goin? Global
I?m old.
Several years post WWII, I remember when ?Made in Japan? meant cheap, shoddy goods guaranteed to fall apart in short order, made in faceless factories by funny looking slave labor who ate cats for dinner. War stereotypes were hard to kill.
It?s interesting to see how time alters generational perceptions, because when a young person says ?Made in Japan? he means a high-quality product like a Lexus or Sony, and not a cheap item. They accept Japanese products as high in the ?value ratio?: quality divided by price.
As a kid I had small items like transistor radios, toys, and gadgets made in Japan, fascinated at the Japanese font when poking around inside the packaging, the exotic definition of ?foreign.? And usually most quickly fell apart. But they didn?t cost much, so not much harm was done.
(?Made in Japan?)
(As a child, this rocket crystal radio was my contact to the outside world. Alligator-clip to the metal bedframe for a ground, insert the ear bud then move the rocket antenna up and down to find those 50,000w ?flamethrower? AM radio stations, especially at night.)
Try to tell a young person about cheap items being made in Japan, and he?ll look at you like a space alien.
My first encounter with a paradigm-busting Japanese product was a Honda Cub 50, the most manufactured vehicle in world history. A staggering 87 million Cubs have been produced since 1957 in 15 countries. Think Soichiro Honda has worked out the bugs?
(Honda C90 Super Cub)
Honda single-handedly killed the British motorcycle industry in 1969 with the introduction of the world?s first super bike, the CB750. Before that, the Triumph Bonnevilles, BSA Lightnings and Norton Commando?s ruled the bad-ass motorcycle roost.
(1969 CB750, the world?s first SuperBike)
And it wasn?t just the incredible performance or price that won hearts of riders around the world, it was also the quality of these machines: they just didn?t break down like Brit iron, and they didn?t leak oil like Harley?s.
The Brits never recovered.
The American Harley-Davidson brand suffered mightily. In 1972, Harley had 100% of the US market over 1000cc. By 1982, they has 15%. Where I come from we call that a country boy ass-whoopin? and was so bad Harley begged politicians to add high import duties to Japanese motorcycles to help them survive.
Ditto Japanese cars coming to America. I remember the arrival of the funny looking Honda Civic followed by the Accord. In 5 years Honda was on top of American car sales for the same reason as Japanese motorcycles: incredible performance and quality at a very modest price. Consumers loved them and Detroit's glass chin took a mighty blow.
(In just 5 years, the Little Honda Civic CVCC drove a stake into the heart of the American automobile industry.)
I've lived in the motorcycle culture of the Dominican Republic since 2008. Out of 2.5 million registered vehicles in this small Caribbean nation 1.8 million are motorcycles with 99% under 200cc. The Chinese motorcycle invasion had been underway for years with Chinese Honda Cub and Yamaha Crypton clones everywhere. But closer examination showed serious flaws: poor quality components, fit and finish, guaranteed to fall apart as soon as the warranty expired. And they did. But these bikes were very inexpensive, an important consumer consideration in a poor country, and millions were sold.
But a funny thing has been happening in my 9 years here: Chinese quality has made enormous strides with fit and finish to nearly First-World standards, parts becoming standardized and of better quality with the bikes lasting much longer. And they?ve sold like crazy.
We live in a global economy where capitalism is no longer the domain of rich countries. Consumers in the Third World want the exact same product metrics as First Worlders: highest quality products at the most modest price possible. Competition has been fierce...and likely to become fiercer.
This competition has definitely impacted Chinese motorcycle brands. And while some consumers are slow to accept the ?New Age? of Chinese quality, many motorcycle addicts like myself see the quality of these machines increasing faster than price?with consumers getting the Win.
While some continue to lament ?cheap Chinese junk?, these same people are loathe to admit that some of the worlds top-quality brands, like Apple, Lenovo, Huawei and Haier are ?Made in China.?
Maybe it?s time we took off the blinders and judged products on their merits and not through our biases.
?Junk?, indeed?
I?m old.
Several years post WWII, I remember when ?Made in Japan? meant cheap, shoddy goods guaranteed to fall apart in short order, made in faceless factories by funny looking slave labor who ate cats for dinner. War stereotypes were hard to kill.
It?s interesting to see how time alters generational perceptions, because when a young person says ?Made in Japan? he means a high-quality product like a Lexus or Sony, and not a cheap item. They accept Japanese products as high in the ?value ratio?: quality divided by price.
As a kid I had small items like transistor radios, toys, and gadgets made in Japan, fascinated at the Japanese font when poking around inside the packaging, the exotic definition of ?foreign.? And usually most quickly fell apart. But they didn?t cost much, so not much harm was done.
(?Made in Japan?)
(As a child, this rocket crystal radio was my contact to the outside world. Alligator-clip to the metal bedframe for a ground, insert the ear bud then move the rocket antenna up and down to find those 50,000w ?flamethrower? AM radio stations, especially at night.)
Try to tell a young person about cheap items being made in Japan, and he?ll look at you like a space alien.
My first encounter with a paradigm-busting Japanese product was a Honda Cub 50, the most manufactured vehicle in world history. A staggering 87 million Cubs have been produced since 1957 in 15 countries. Think Soichiro Honda has worked out the bugs?
(Honda C90 Super Cub)
Honda single-handedly killed the British motorcycle industry in 1969 with the introduction of the world?s first super bike, the CB750. Before that, the Triumph Bonnevilles, BSA Lightnings and Norton Commando?s ruled the bad-ass motorcycle roost.
(1969 CB750, the world?s first SuperBike)
And it wasn?t just the incredible performance or price that won hearts of riders around the world, it was also the quality of these machines: they just didn?t break down like Brit iron, and they didn?t leak oil like Harley?s.
The Brits never recovered.
The American Harley-Davidson brand suffered mightily. In 1972, Harley had 100% of the US market over 1000cc. By 1982, they has 15%. Where I come from we call that a country boy ass-whoopin? and was so bad Harley begged politicians to add high import duties to Japanese motorcycles to help them survive.
Ditto Japanese cars coming to America. I remember the arrival of the funny looking Honda Civic followed by the Accord. In 5 years Honda was on top of American car sales for the same reason as Japanese motorcycles: incredible performance and quality at a very modest price. Consumers loved them and Detroit's glass chin took a mighty blow.
(In just 5 years, the Little Honda Civic CVCC drove a stake into the heart of the American automobile industry.)
I've lived in the motorcycle culture of the Dominican Republic since 2008. Out of 2.5 million registered vehicles in this small Caribbean nation 1.8 million are motorcycles with 99% under 200cc. The Chinese motorcycle invasion had been underway for years with Chinese Honda Cub and Yamaha Crypton clones everywhere. But closer examination showed serious flaws: poor quality components, fit and finish, guaranteed to fall apart as soon as the warranty expired. And they did. But these bikes were very inexpensive, an important consumer consideration in a poor country, and millions were sold.
But a funny thing has been happening in my 9 years here: Chinese quality has made enormous strides with fit and finish to nearly First-World standards, parts becoming standardized and of better quality with the bikes lasting much longer. And they?ve sold like crazy.
We live in a global economy where capitalism is no longer the domain of rich countries. Consumers in the Third World want the exact same product metrics as First Worlders: highest quality products at the most modest price possible. Competition has been fierce...and likely to become fiercer.
This competition has definitely impacted Chinese motorcycle brands. And while some consumers are slow to accept the ?New Age? of Chinese quality, many motorcycle addicts like myself see the quality of these machines increasing faster than price?with consumers getting the Win.
While some continue to lament ?cheap Chinese junk?, these same people are loathe to admit that some of the worlds top-quality brands, like Apple, Lenovo, Huawei and Haier are ?Made in China.?
Maybe it?s time we took off the blinders and judged products on their merits and not through our biases.
?Junk?, indeed?
Actually, you are incorrect.
I know of no Japanese motorcycle under 300cc that is NOT made either in China or Thailand. Japan is a land of high labor costs and smaller bikes compete in very price sensitive markets around the planet.
So a bike can, indeed, have "Japanese Technology" and be made in China. Some components may be made in Japan, but the bikes are assembled & finished in China.
For example: all Suzuki's brought into the DR by the exclusive importer are manufactured in either Colombia, China or Thailand.
I put 125 miles on an RX3 yesterday, none on the autopista or twisties, just a lot hills, narrow lanes and hard-packed dirt in and around Jarabacoa. I was leading 6 others on our DL650's.
For the money, I'm really liking the bike. I had forgotten the fun of managing a small bike. Except for hard acceleration and fast hill climbing, it gives little to bigger bikes. I will say I'm a big guy and did bottom put a couple of times on unavoidable potholes, but I've not done any adjustments on the rear shock. The large RX3 community says that adjusting the shock out 3-4 clicks makes a world of difference. This bike was stone-stock from the factory.
And I was handicapped by a 6500rpm max break-in limitation on a 9000rpm redline. There was a lot of power left in the last 2500rpm.
It took me a half hour to understand the powerband---which is 24hp vs. the DL650 62hp. I found the "sweet spot" is around 5-5500rpm, it takes more throttle to launch (with my size), I have to shift more and like I said-unfortunately I was rpm limited and . None are real biggies.
When it's broken in I have no doubt it'll perform even better.
I had to keep telling myself "It's only 250cc..." Amazing.
Great fun, and a lot of bike for the money..
For the money, I'm really liking the bike. I had forgotten the fun of managing a small bike. Except for hard acceleration and fast hill climbing, it gives little to bigger bikes. I will say I'm a big guy and did bottom put a couple of times on unavoidable potholes, but I've not done any adjustments on the rear shock. The large RX3 community says that adjusting the shock out 3-4 clicks makes a world of difference. This bike was stone-stock from the factory.
And I was handicapped by a 6500rpm max break-in limitation on a 9000rpm redline. There was a lot of power left in the last 2500rpm.
It took me a half hour to understand the powerband---which is 24hp vs. the DL650 62hp. I found the "sweet spot" is around 5-5500rpm, it takes more throttle to launch (with my size), I have to shift more and like I said-unfortunately I was rpm limited and . None are real biggies.
When it's broken in I have no doubt it'll perform even better.
I had to keep telling myself "It's only 250cc..." Amazing.
Great fun, and a lot of bike for the money..
The uncrating of a new Cyclone RX3 in Milwaukie bought from CSC, the US distributor.
[video=youtube;LPfwsWwP0BQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPfwsWwP0BQ&feature=youtu.be[/video]
Seems she cut the end when the biked assumed natural sleeping position because she didn't manage the tie-down straps properly.
Lesson learned the hard way!
The RX3's comes from Chongqing in a crate with bags & hardware, front wheel and handle bars unattached, and the bike & parts bolted to a metal frame. We deliver the completed bike to customers in Jarabacoa or the customer's location, so no uncrating or assembly required.
(And note the gorgeous vintage Gold Wing in the background, looks like an 1100cc...)
[video=youtube;LPfwsWwP0BQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPfwsWwP0BQ&feature=youtu.be[/video]
Seems she cut the end when the biked assumed natural sleeping position because she didn't manage the tie-down straps properly.
Lesson learned the hard way!
The RX3's comes from Chongqing in a crate with bags & hardware, front wheel and handle bars unattached, and the bike & parts bolted to a metal frame. We deliver the completed bike to customers in Jarabacoa or the customer's location, so no uncrating or assembly required.
(And note the gorgeous vintage Gold Wing in the background, looks like an 1100cc...)
Over half of all road fatalities here in the DR are moter cycle riders!!!!!!
They are to lowest of the highway "Pecking Order"!!!!!
They get ZERO respect from all other forms of transportation.
I would not ride a '"Moto" here in the DR if you gave me one for free!!!!!
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Great. Sounds good to me. Do you have the RX3's in stock?
I'll planning to be in DR from about mid-June onwards, so will be seeing you soon.
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