I am looking to buy Cane corso

[pularvik]

All dogs come with genetic lines. Many of the domestic dogs can be good alarms,---if you can stop the foraging gene that makes them roam. Domestic dogs with no foraging genes do not survive here to breed.

Dogs are bred here just like any place else,-with a certain appearance and a certain genetic background. Some people chose to have a different breed with a different genetic background and I can't see how that is being "incredibly pretentious" or elitest.

 

[zoomzx11]

You will never be able to train a "street mixed breed dog" to do what come naturally to a German Shepherd. G.S. are smart, and have been bred for ages into what is an excellent guard dog. For me they are a hair factory and a bit too aggressive but they do the job. Only big issue with G.S. is hip dysplaysia which you can xray for when they are a pup. One of the joys of dogs is that man has bred them into so many varieties to serve specific purposes that one can find an exact fit in a dog. What amazes me is that single women living in small apartments still buy Great Danes because they like the way they look.

 

[donP]

Ego Problem Dogs?

"Attacks against people

In January 2001, Diane Whipple, a 33-year-old woman in San Francisco, California, was killed by two Perro de Presa Canario (or Presa Canario mix) dogs owned by her neighbors, attorneys who had acquired the dogs on behalf of a client who had trained them for fighting. The incident and its background were recounted in the book Hella Nation by Evan Wright, also referenced in the book Night Broken by Patricia Briggs.
In August 2006, Shawna Willey, a 30-year-old woman in Coral Springs, Florida, was killed by her own Presa Canario.
In March 2012, a 21-year-old man in Sacramento, California, had finished lifting weights in his garage and stepped outside to cool off, and was then attacked by two large Presa Canarios (a 120 lb male and an 80 lb pregnant female). Each dog grabbed one of his arms and together they pulled him to the ground. The driver of a passing car witnessed the attack and hit one of the dogs with the car. The victim then jumped onto the car, which sped him away to escape the attack.
In August 2012, Rebecca Carey, a 23-year-old woman in Decatur, Georgia, was killed by dogs that she was caring for in her home. Two were pit bulls, one was a boxer mix, and two were Presas.
In April 2013, a 5-year-old girl in White Plains, Maryland, was attacked and critically injured by family-owned dogs at her home. Police suspected at least two of the three dogs at the home, an English bulldog and two Presa Canarios, were involved in the attack.
In May 2013, Clifford Clarke, a 79-year-old man was attacked, mauled, and killed in Liverpool, England, by a Presa Canario Bull Mastiff mix, which had not been fed for 45 hours.
In February 2014, a woman near Znojmo in the Czech republic was attacked by a 60 kilograms (130 lb) Akita and Perro de Presa mix. Police intervened and shot the dog, and the woman survived.

Legal restrictions on ownership

Importation and sale of the breed is prohibited in Australia and New Zealand."
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From Wikipedia.

IMO, certain people have certain dogs.
Ego problem?

donP

 

[Cdn_Gringo]

Thanks to thousands of years of breeding, dogs are like tools - there is a correct dog for every job.

The key is to identify the right dog for your wants/needs. If you need an alarm system, then a Chihuahua which eats 1/32 what a Rottweiler would will suffice. If you need an audible/visual deterrent than something larger would be more effective than a Lhaso Apso.

An often overlooked point is that there is a distinction to be made between a "working dog" and a "family pet". A working dog that becomes a pet is often inadvertently "broken" by a family. If one goes to the trouble to procure or train a guard/attack dog, then that dog cannot be a pet. It has a purpose and it's life needs to be devoted to fulfilling that purpose. As soon as people start feeding working dogs from the table, letting them casually living in the house amongst family members, lounging on the couch or enjoying air conditioning, they become pets and their effectiveness and predictability is questionable.

Pets can make for good alarm systems and in many cases can provide a degree security. A dog whose sole purpose is protection cannot and should not become a pet in the traditional sense of the word. Sure show a working dog affection, play/exercise with it, feed it well, take it to the vet and reinforce its training and purpose, but do not expect to be able to allow it to curl up at your feet at night, or snuggle with it on the couch during Americas Got Talent - that's a pet, not a working dog. The two are mutually exclusive and before getting a dog, one needs to be clear what role this animal is expected to fill.

The vast majority of the dogs I've had over many years have been pets. All of them have added much love and reward to my life. I remember them all for their individuality and joy they offered. Some were better pets than others but no two dogs are the same.

I've cared for one working dog in my life, when I was in the military. That dog loved me and I him. But never was their any doubt on the part of the dog exactly what it was expected to do when commanded to do so - Without hesitation, without fear, without fail 100% of the time. Lives depended on it and everyday was spend reinforcing the singularity of his purpose. He was a weapon and as such had to maintained and treated like one. The dog was never given the impression that it had a choice or was an equal member of the human pack.

 

[malko]

Quality and character ?

I considered a trained dog when moving here - Police type training.

I talked to the K-9 squad in my hometown -Philadelphia , at that point
They suggested any breed with the natural protection instincts - Shepherds, Dobermans, Rottweilers, etc.

He also said that he was more feared by the public with the dog than with his gun.
That convinced me.

This isn't jewelry we're talking - its protection.....
and IMO, its more pretentious to carry a gun than have a capable dog.

I have had both.

Don't get me started on foo foo poodles...... hahaha

But thats the point, GS, pinchers, rotties...... all can be found in the dr for a fraction of the price in europe or the US........ maybe not 100% full breed, nor a glorious ancestor line..... but who cares ?? Its not as if the ladrones are going to ask for their certificates.:laugh:

And here in the dr, no need to have a very obidient dog, like back home.
3 comands are all I need,
#1. Sit and be calm.
#2. Go to your house.
#3. Rip to shreads anyone who comes in.


As for food, 1 bag every 3 weeks ?? Has to be a hell of a big bag......
I go through 2 bags a month ( the big ones, 40lb I guess ), 15 dog food tins ( for when I am to lazy to cook chicken ), 6 2lb salamis and 8-10 chicken........ i increased the food lately, as the rottie would "steal" the food of the " killer" when I turned my back......
And thats for 1 full size rottie, a mid-range size killer dog, a small old fluffy thingy and a 3 month rottie pup.......
And not 1 of them is overweight.... no fat on them....

 

[bermyboy]

Malko you sound like me many times my wifes friends ask me what im cooking (usually pica palla woth garlic and seasoninmg ) they think Im crazy when I say its for the dogs LOL

 

[william webster]

I don't think I'll get too involved in this but -

Presa's are quite dangerous.. Pitbulls too.
A plastic surgeon friend regularly restores faces - reattaches them - he says 80-90% are Pitbull attacks

I have mixed bag of dogs, they sleep outside doing their job.
Occasionally, they get a ride around town -

Food malko - the 40 lb bag is good for 3 weeks.
Mine aren't overfed either

I don't agree about the quality of purebreds in RD - some but they're rare.
We have one person here who has excellent GShepherds but I could'nt get my timing right.

One of mine was bought here ( the Shepherd mix), one was rescued in Canada(Boxer mix) and the other was bought for its quality breeding.

Hopefully none of that is pretentious to too many...

My cars?, I insist on RD cars, not US imports - the cares made for export..... better deal.

I brought my own Jeep with me in 2009 and bought an 'export' car here.

Sort of a mixed bag me.... I can see most viewpoints but follow my nose for the most part

 

[AlterEgo]

WW, what brand of dog food are you feeding your dogs that costs 2200 for a 40 pound bag? We feed our rotties Campion because that's what the male was used to when we 'adopted' him after his family returned to the UK. It's 1100 pesos for 40 pounds. They thrive on it. We go through about a bag and a half, sometimes two, in a month - but I think the caretaker also takes some home to feed his dog too.

Malko, your doggies are eating better than some Dominicans! We're only there for 4 months or so at a time, and during that time they do get some "people" food, but not much because when we're not there they only get the dry food. Every other weekend Mr. AE's cousin goes out to our house for the weekend and brings bags of some raw butcher scraps that he buys at the Feria Ganaera in SD. They go crazy for it, grosses me out a bit, lol. They stuff themselves so much on Friday night that sometimes they won't eat dog food again until Monday or Tuesday.

 

[HUG]

You will never be able to train a "street mixed breed dog" to do what come naturally to a German Shepherd.

Sure you can, it just comes more natural to GSs if they cme from long lines. The overwhelming majority of Guard dogs, police dogs, are GSs, but that is changing as the reality becomes more acknowledged.
A good minded dog will be trained as well as the next, no matter what breed. Agility and size comes into it in more specific circumstances and requirements, but training wise, give me a mutt any day over a pure bred. Concentration on the manipulation of genes in pure breeds leads to more issues than benefits. That is just a fact.

 

[HUG]

One of mine was bought here ( the Shepherd mix), one was rescued in Canada(Boxer mix) and the other was bought for its quality breeding.

Hopefully none of that is pretentious to too many...

Not pretentious, they are rescue and taken for the right reasons. Other than the one bought for breeding, which if doing so in DR does tend to boil my pi$$. I will hate farmed domesticated animal ethics of any kind until we have control of the massive over population we have and will continue to have while pets are being farmed for profit. When it's about money, morality never wins through, so we will always suffer this issue. But I don't tend to get on well with people on a personal level who produce pets purely for profit.
Right environment, right reasons then I have no issues.
Good job my opinion is worthless on the grand scale.:angry:

 

[bermyboy]

I have owned pit bulls real pit bulls not the big muscular Am Staffs A real pit bull was never bred to be people agressive most people do not know what realpits even are they arent big and blocky looking like people imagine. Females usually 45 -55 lbs and males 55-65 good all around dogs if bought up in loving conditions very smart as well.

 

[bermyboy]

Agreed with HUG look at the GS with its sloped hind quaters this leads to an inferior dog but because of show dog standards this is what people breed too. I prefer working dogs I am not into breed standards as I belive this is cruelty to animals.

 

[william webster]

Sloping hips -- I hate them...the Belgian Shepherd has a straight back... smaller too.
Hence my cross Germ/Belg..... from Sosua

sadly, just one litter... I got two but lost one (the better one) in neutering

and they weren't cheap either

 

[william webster]

WW, what brand of dog food are you feeding your dogs that costs 2200 for a 40 pound bag? We feed our rotties Campion because that's what the male was used to when we 'adopted' him after his family returned to the UK. It's 1100 pesos for 40 pounds. They thrive on it. We go through about a bag and a half, sometimes two, in a month - but I think the caretaker also takes some home to feed his dog too.

Malko, your doggies are eating better than some Dominicans! We're only there for 4 months or so at a time, and during that time they do get some "people" food, but not much because when we're not there they only get the dry food. Every other weekend Mr. AE's cousin goes out to our house for the weekend and brings bags of some raw butcher scraps that he buys at the Feria Ganaera in SD. They go crazy for it, grosses me out a bit, lol. They stuff themselves so much on Friday night that sometimes they won't eat dog food again until Monday or Tuesday.

Royal Canin is the brand

I have found that the cheaper food is a fallacy....
you need to give more of it... the more $$$ go further , IMO

That's a big shortcoming here... quality dog food.
BelgianK and I were on to deal but it never materialized.
He found some good food in SD but the guy (Dom) didn't negotiate in good faith

 

[william webster]

I am looking to buy

Thoroughbred puppies Cane Corso. Boy and girl from different clubs.
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Have a look here.. this might appeal to you

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I have used them.

Here's where we started .... a question begging an answer which I gave.

Now - the morality squad has taken over

Man wants dog - help man find dog.
No RD suggestion yet as to a kennel - my search came up doughnuts when I was looking

 

[Tamborista]

Here's where we started .... a question begging an answer which I gave.

Now - the morality squad has taken over

Man wants dog - help man find dog.
No RD suggestion yet as to a kennel - my search came up doughnuts when I was looking

Well, you have a choice today ... Sanky's, Lasagna, or Cane Corso's!

 

[Cdn_Gringo]

#3. Rip to shreads anyone who comes in.

Equally important is the ability to call off an attack. The goal is not to foster "blood lust" but to control the application of as much force as is required to take down/incapacitate and then to stop the attack being ready to reengage if the individual won't obey your commands to stay down.

Dogs that are properly trained are like a gun and should only go off when the trigger is pulled and should stop firing when the trigger is released. Most dogs can be trained/conditioned to attack, it's much harder to get them to stop on command. The handler identifies the target not the dog. A dog that chooses its own target or decides to attack on its own is a disaster waiting to happen. A well trained dog will make lots of noise, snarl/growl lunge at an interloper but will not make physical contact until commanded to do so.

If one creates a weapon, one is responsible for it and needs to be in control of it. The "off" switch is all to often overlooked in the rush to toggle the "on" switch.

I'm a Rottie fan. Smart, trainable, wanting to please, naturally protective, usually pretty good with strange children. Some really good dogs available here even if not exactly 100% standard compliant. A little bit of local genes goes a long way to to creating a dog that thrives here.

 

[william webster]

I have seen the demonstration.... first they go on alert, then they growl on command, then they are told to restrict movement ( you can't get away)
then the attack command......

then the recall

unbelievable, b/c after they are doclie

i wouldn't like to see the training.........

 

[GuillermoRamon]

The Dogo Argentino is a formidable dog also, should you be able to find one in the D.R.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogo_Argentino

 

[william webster]

Buster
I have seen some excellent Rotties come out of Sto Domingo... really good

Also, your comment about 'spoiling ' a dog/ pet will hurt its protective instincts is weak.
I have an excellent example of a pet that stood its ground when it thought we were thtreatened.

I rescued a Doberman... a nursing Dober.... abandoned and the litter had all died (playa Grande beach).
we rehabbed her... mange, malnourished, u name it

Subsequently, couple of months later, we began to build a vegetable garden and brought in an extra man to assist.

We stake out the plot and the new man picks up the pick and strikes the ground
That dog growled , jumped forward and pushed him back.... unprompted.

Whew !
We give the pick to our own man - who feeds the dog when we're away

He got low, steady growl but no aggression....

We calmed the dog down

Who just came back, sat between us and looked around as if to say -
OK, we got the rules straight here ?

I had never had a 'protective' dog before and was sold --- pure instinct.

Ultimately, we had to get rid of her -
she had the RD wanderlust and would go killing chickens too often.

Same deal at the next home for her.... dead chix
Finally she wound up in an apartment.... no roaming from there !!