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Is the economy in the DR worse than in the US?
It was a contrived,hypothetical,loaded question.
There is no valid comparison between the two countries.
The DR is but a pimple on the world's A$$!
It is one step out of Africa.
He just throws out his loaded question,and then uses it to support his personal agenda.
Total waste of time,and band width!
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There is no valid comparison between the two countries.
The DR is but a pimple on the world's A$$!
It is one step out of Africa.
He just throws out his loaded question,and then uses it to support his personal agenda.
Total waste of time,and band width!
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"Moving On!!!!!!"
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what i am saying here, is that americans have been hit on the head, kicked in the nuts and had their kneecaps cracked with a stick. USA always had a huge middle class. those very same fatsos who had a big house in a suburb, one car per personand despite the lack of savings - they lived in a cloud of comfort and FAITH IN THEIR GOVERNMENT. when the s**t hit the fan they were lots. completely. i worked for an american company, here in DR, and it was there that i heard the same story from so many mouths: most of americans were just one or two paychecks away from living on the street. a crack in the world economy has taken all wind from their lungs and opened an abyss under their feet.
while DR? no such thing as middle class really. small and insignificant part of the population. what did they do when the feces splashed into their faces? they cut down. moved to a smaller apartment (middle class rents rather than owns). let the full time maid go and arrange for twice a week service. sold one of the cars. changed the remaining car from montero to spark. the rich? barely felt their wallets twitch. the poor? they were f**ked from the get go, it could not get much worse for them anyways. they skipped breakfasts and dinners and settled for bigger lunch. they went to shop in la pulga. they invested in la pela and banged old bats to get extra cash.
life here... in many ways it is easier and cheaper than in the USA. for dominicans, that is, because gringos will always miss their foods, their magazines, their clothes, their treats. so is the economy worse? no, but it is dealt with more ease and resignation.
while DR? no such thing as middle class really. small and insignificant part of the population. what did they do when the feces splashed into their faces? they cut down. moved to a smaller apartment (middle class rents rather than owns). let the full time maid go and arrange for twice a week service. sold one of the cars. changed the remaining car from montero to spark. the rich? barely felt their wallets twitch. the poor? they were f**ked from the get go, it could not get much worse for them anyways. they skipped breakfasts and dinners and settled for bigger lunch. they went to shop in la pulga. they invested in la pela and banged old bats to get extra cash.
life here... in many ways it is easier and cheaper than in the USA. for dominicans, that is, because gringos will always miss their foods, their magazines, their clothes, their treats. so is the economy worse? no, but it is dealt with more ease and resignation.
The OP should be in funny Friday. Cobraboy and CC tell it like it is. People on Welfare in the USA eat better and have MEDICAL coverage!! The OP has no clue!
Comparing the USA to the DR is ridiculous and unfair. Of course the people in DR handle a recession better they are used to having nothing.
DV8 I like your posts but your assessment on the USA is a bit off. Many of us here tightened our belts and make due with less also. Were not all hyperspending people from reality TV.
DV8 I like your posts but your assessment on the USA is a bit off. Many of us here tightened our belts and make due with less also. Were not all hyperspending people from reality TV.
ha ha ha, i know, i have never even been to america. but i think you are underestimating your people. i remember my first image of USA, from old american movies like grace. people had houses. actual houses. with rooms for every kid. more than one bathroom. and they had cars. cool cars. even teenagers had cars. it was... unbelievable. unthinkable. i did not understand, how was it possible? and people used planes. i thought? who could afford a plane ticket? how could that be? and coca cola? american diners with free coffee? free? i have never imagined something could be free.
and then came credit cards. i could not understand (i still don't, to be honest, so i don't have my own cc, only the extension of miesposo's card). people were getting things without having to pay for them straight away. how strange! magical. wonderful.
back home we lived in apartment blocks. 40 square meters for a family of 4. to get a car one had to sign up on a waiting list. kids were not allowed even to touch it, let alone drive it. everyone was dressed the same because there was limited choice of clothing in shops. i had my first snickers bar at 15. before that i never knew they even existed....
and all this time, there was no such thing as credit. one started saving for an apartment upon getting married. by the time the kid came along and it reached 18 or 20 years old savings were enough to be able to get another tiny apartment. i was taught to save. not to spend. i was taught never to buy something unless i could afford to pay for it cold hard cash.
i suppose i identify with dominicans here because they had, they still have, tough life. so do not tell me about americans not being hyper spending tv monsters. you still are, very much so. consuming, all the time. used to being able to reach the goal easy way. to get things now and pay later. did you tighten the belt? i believe so, inasmuch as it it possible, with your fat bellies.
but did the mentality change? tell me, did it?
and then came credit cards. i could not understand (i still don't, to be honest, so i don't have my own cc, only the extension of miesposo's card). people were getting things without having to pay for them straight away. how strange! magical. wonderful.
back home we lived in apartment blocks. 40 square meters for a family of 4. to get a car one had to sign up on a waiting list. kids were not allowed even to touch it, let alone drive it. everyone was dressed the same because there was limited choice of clothing in shops. i had my first snickers bar at 15. before that i never knew they even existed....
and all this time, there was no such thing as credit. one started saving for an apartment upon getting married. by the time the kid came along and it reached 18 or 20 years old savings were enough to be able to get another tiny apartment. i was taught to save. not to spend. i was taught never to buy something unless i could afford to pay for it cold hard cash.
i suppose i identify with dominicans here because they had, they still have, tough life. so do not tell me about americans not being hyper spending tv monsters. you still are, very much so. consuming, all the time. used to being able to reach the goal easy way. to get things now and pay later. did you tighten the belt? i believe so, inasmuch as it it possible, with your fat bellies.
but did the mentality change? tell me, did it?There are 300 million people in the US. If they were all hyperspending fat spoiled lazy people we wouldnt be a superpower.
Im sorry but for someone who has never been to the US you have no credibility telling anyone what happens there. I dont want to sound rude I dont insult other peoples countries even if I have been there and I really it offensive when people insult mine.
Im sorry but for someone who has never been to the US you have no credibility telling anyone what happens there. I dont want to sound rude I dont insult other peoples countries even if I have been there and I really it offensive when people insult mine.
i did not insult. i played on stereotype. i know very well not to generalize. i know this because i could swear there are few polaks out there who are not drunken thieves.
but you did not answer. did the mentality change in america, after the crash of the economy?
but you did not answer. did the mentality change in america, after the crash of the economy?
No you don't. You just think you do.I understand a little bit about economics.. How does national debt figure into the equation?
You brought up which economy is doing better. You get your a$$-once again-handed to you and like a little girly man try to weasel out by a feckless attempt at diversion.
Surrender noted.
The US is STILL doing better than the DR, per capita or by any other economic metric, after the crash. It ain't great and folks are suffering without their double frappe latte's from Starbucks*.
But I understand your point.
Americans need to harden the f@(k up...
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*I kid, I kid, but I'm hopeful that a little suffering, just a fraction of the REAL economic suffering my parents and grandparents went through (and YOUR family went through under Communism) will make the fat, slothful, lazy, mentally-entitled crybaby Americans think about "hardening the f@(k up" a little. 'Cuz they need it. The gubmint, even with Messianic "leaders" promising rainbow unicorns pooping free Gummi Bears at somebody else's expense, is incapable of solving their problems. Only each person can do that. As soon as that reality becomes embedded in society progress will begin to be made. But not before.
How can you compare the two? It would not be equal. How can anyone compare the US to DR? Much difference in land size, population, government, etc...People of the DR have proven they can live a simple life on less but for some of them it may be a choice rather something forced upon them. I never understood how anyone could compare the two countries in economics, crime, etc... Two different places with two totally different infrastructures each with their own distinct problems. There is one thing they both have incommon though..They both are quick to blame someone else for their troubles.
and to sum it up: of course USA is doing better than DR. the only difference is that dominicans with their manana and si dios quiere attitude deal better with a wet towel smacking their arses time and again. and in america there is some government support for the needy. here? nothing.
i think this is true everywhere. lots of talk in polish newspapers too, about the disappearing middle class and the growing gap between the poor and the rich...
Besides, the national debt doesn't mean anything for either country. It will never be paid off.
Wait just a second you are from Poland? The number one city in the world with the biggest polish population is Warsaw, care to take a guess what number two is? I know plenty of polish people with credit cards, debit cards, and they are in to fashion and materialistic items just like everyone else. Wow I can't believe you wrote this and your from Poland. I go to this polish bakery every Saturday and if I remember I am going to ask her and her husband have "credit" ever benefitted them and their business.
I grew up around a lot of polish people and one of my aunts had a polish boyfriend for along time and we called him uncle or tio. Wow I did not know you were polish.
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If one is contempt with modest, simple life and let's not forget a modest job, DR would be ideal.
The problem in the states is that even a simple life is very costly. The pace of life is too fast and conducive to stress.
In reality, everyone loves the good life, not just Americans. Poor Dominicans would be a lot happier living the American life.