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JetBlue asked if I had a return ticket or DR residency
That's funny, NO INTERNATIONAL flights will take your luggage curbside @ least in my country.
Jet Blue at JFK ( NY) does Curbside luggage check in
I do it all the time . JFK to STI
what country are you in ?
Las January I was flying back form Canada and the crew assistant said on the speaker we will go to give your the custom form and your Punta Cana visa, I didnt know that Punta Cana was already a country.
very few can actually qualify to be here legally now,
only the ricos
of course the ones with the real money
the narco money
they fly in and out every three weeks
it is when they start questioning the frequent flights on the other end that things will get rough
We should thanks the Haitians for all this mess. I am glad that DR is taking care and enforcing their immigration law.
MA,
When queried on the other end, your explanation is truthful, factual and no secret. "The reason I take so many flights is that I am required to leave the DR every 30 days." I suspect that "Perpetual Tourists" will opt for a boat ride to PR or a trip to Haiti (I cannot think of a less appealing option).
Anyone know for certain - To qualify for another tourist card is the minimum stay outside the DR a matter of hours, one day or longer period of time?
Some popular expat countries, that are much further down the the immigration road than the DR, are now tackling "Perpetual Tourists" issues. Costa Rica comes to mind. Those who overstay their visas there are prohibited from reentry for 3X the length that they overstayed and one cannot leave and renew a tourist visa from the same country twice in a row. Costa Rica does have a few more visa options than the DR but clearly, the issue of residency by those who are not really residents is not solely a DR phenomenon or problem.
When queried on the other end, your explanation is truthful, factual and no secret. "The reason I take so many flights is that I am required to leave the DR every 30 days." I suspect that "Perpetual Tourists" will opt for a boat ride to PR or a trip to Haiti (I cannot think of a less appealing option).
Anyone know for certain - To qualify for another tourist card is the minimum stay outside the DR a matter of hours, one day or longer period of time?
Some popular expat countries, that are much further down the the immigration road than the DR, are now tackling "Perpetual Tourists" issues. Costa Rica comes to mind. Those who overstay their visas there are prohibited from reentry for 3X the length that they overstayed and one cannot leave and renew a tourist visa from the same country twice in a row. Costa Rica does have a few more visa options than the DR but clearly, the issue of residency by those who are not really residents is not solely a DR phenomenon or problem.
As soon as the agent saw my residency card, there was additional typing, but I have no idea what information was entered.
As I stated before, the airlines are required to ask non-residents/non-citizens for a return flight out of the DR, just because they don't often do so, does not mean they won't.
The best way around this if called to purchase a ticket (and you refuse to get residency) is to get the full fare refundable ticket and get the refund as others have pointed out. As different others have also pointed out, who knows what will happen to such "residency averse" people in the future.
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Marcion was in a mood last night, but my reason for asking was purely informational.
I'm pretty sure that residents without a return ticket have their Residency # and expiry date entered onto the flight manifest and this might be one of the ways that the DR is using to get residency information into the database without having to enter the information by hand here in the DR. The next time you check in to come to the DR with a one way ticket, it will be interesting to know if they ask about a return ticket. If not, maybe ask if the system shows you as being a resident? I realize this might not happen for some time.
William Webster is going to ask upon his return in a few months if the Residency info entered when he left this month has been retained.
I'm pretty sure that residents without a return ticket have their Residency # and expiry date entered onto the flight manifest and this might be one of the ways that the DR is using to get residency information into the database without having to enter the information by hand here in the DR. The next time you check in to come to the DR with a one way ticket, it will be interesting to know if they ask about a return ticket. If not, maybe ask if the system shows you as being a resident? I realize this might not happen for some time.
William Webster is going to ask upon his return in a few months if the Residency info entered when he left this month has been retained.
Marcion was in a mood last night, but my reason for asking was purely informational.
I'm pretty sure that residents without a return ticket have their Residency # and expiry date entered onto the flight manifest and this might be one of the ways that the DR is using to get residency information into the database without having to enter the information by hand here in the DR. The next time you check in to come to the DR with a one way ticket, it will be interesting to know if they ask about a return ticket. If not, maybe ask if the system shows you as being a resident? I realize this might not happen for some time.
William Webster is going to ask upon his return in a few months if the Residency info entered when he left this month has been retained.
I don't think there is any database the airline is checking or inputting anything in. If so, asking for the residence would be routing and not an exception. I have had to show my residence maybe two times over the past five years.
Besides, coming from most airports you don't even have to see an agent to get on board. You print your boarding pass, drop your suitcase on the belt and go to security check.
What the airline enter is i APIS system that USA use for all travelers to the United States of America or for people flying over their territories. All airlines received an advise that starting June 15 that will be mandatory.
Mauricio,
No doubt the airlines do not have any way of checking the validity of residency info they enter into the system, that would be done here in the DR at some later date.
The airline is just performing their due diligence - no return ticket, why not? Oh you are a resident, kickity kick, good to go. The flight manifest listing all passengers is then sent to the DR after the gate closes and arrives usually before the flight is in the air. No return ticket, then the residency info entered by the airline appears next to the passenger name.
Voila, with the click of a button, that residency information could be verified if there is a previous entry in the DR residency database or added as new info subject to verification at a later time. Eventually, when the DR swipes a passport, the classification of that traveler will be displayed as a tourist, visa entry or resident.
We can probably safely extrapolate into the future and say with some degree of confidence that the airlines will soon pick up on the pattern of last minute purchased return tickets that are subsequently cancelled for a cash refund. Because the airlines have zero interest in acting as a temporary facilitation agent, if the practice becomes widespread, then refunds on the return portion of a trip will be changed to credits to be used on a future flight. Hanging onto your money is all the airline really cares about.
No doubt the airlines do not have any way of checking the validity of residency info they enter into the system, that would be done here in the DR at some later date.
The airline is just performing their due diligence - no return ticket, why not? Oh you are a resident, kickity kick, good to go. The flight manifest listing all passengers is then sent to the DR after the gate closes and arrives usually before the flight is in the air. No return ticket, then the residency info entered by the airline appears next to the passenger name.
Voila, with the click of a button, that residency information could be verified if there is a previous entry in the DR residency database or added as new info subject to verification at a later time. Eventually, when the DR swipes a passport, the classification of that traveler will be displayed as a tourist, visa entry or resident.
We can probably safely extrapolate into the future and say with some degree of confidence that the airlines will soon pick up on the pattern of last minute purchased return tickets that are subsequently cancelled for a cash refund. Because the airlines have zero interest in acting as a temporary facilitation agent, if the practice becomes widespread, then refunds on the return portion of a trip will be changed to credits to be used on a future flight. Hanging onto your money is all the airline really cares about.
Then airlines won't be selling many full fare flights, if there is no option to receive a refund upon cancellation. I doubt that your gubbie shill dream will come true.
Having worked for AA asking for a return ticket is not new or surprising. The airlines stand to pay a hefty fine if the passenger is found not admissible to the country he or she is traveling to. Never under estimate what is or is not available in any countries data base. As for the airlines possibly not selling refundable fares unfortunately that probably wont happen. The airlines prefer the upside (higher fare) rather than the downside (possible refund). The "refund game" is nothing new to the airlines.