Lazy, useless, poor, dishonest barrio people

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HOWMAR said:
Maybe you should post to a blog rather than a forum. That is more appropriate for a one-sided discussion.

Yes, but blogs can be pretty interactive too. :)
 

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DominicanScotty said:
I simply wish him well. You should too, or is that too much?
Not if you can rationalize wishing good luck to somebody playing Russian Roulette or to a child playing in traffic.
 

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johne said:
Thanks for the support of a person whose opinions I respect.

JOHN


John,

We both understand as well as many other members here how difficult it is to do business in this country. I see what you are doing and wish you the best as you go with it.

I would much rather take my chances with the locals then the sharks that come down here from other countries to swindle other ex pats with their corrupt schemes.

Keep me posted (VIA PMS). I will watch your continued progress and success.
 
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You got your opinions which I respect....

HOWMAR said:
Not if you can rationalize wishing good luck to somebody playing Russian Roulette or to a hild playing in traffic.

Is it his money or...... yours? As he has written, he seems to understand the risks.
 

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DominicanScotty said:
Is it his money or...... yours? As he has written, he seems to understand the risks.
As I explained in a previous post, not only does a business failure have a negative effect upon the business owner, but in the microcosim of the DR, it has a negative effect on established successful businesses. In the 6 months a failing business stays open it can drain the resources of other people in the same field. As I stated, we lose many employees to new businesses every year. We are hurt because of the costs of recruitment and training and lost production. These businesses have zero chance for success, yet cost us because of their ideas which are doomed to failure. The same is true for any industry or service on the island.
 

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domincanscotty has a point. We should all wish him good luck. Its his money and he is an adult who has accomplished far more material wealth than most of us on this board. If he losses his money then he has learned a lesson and if he becomes successful then its his win. Its not totally impossible for a foreigner to have a successful business in this country.
Good luck John.
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AZB said:
domincanscotty has a point. We should all wish him good luck. Its his money and he is an adult who has accomplished far more material wealth than most of us on this board. If he losses his money then he has learned a lesson and if he becomes successful then its his win. Its not totally impossible for a foreigner to have a successful business in this country.
Good luck John.
AZB


AMEN.

I realize there are kind people like Chris, amongst others, who are only trying to help and offer words of advice that may help him succeed in the business world in the DR. I think maybe the better response to these offers (by Johne) would've been "thanks, but no thanks, this is what I want to do, and I'm going to do it anyways".

However, who knows? He may be one of those people that everything he touches turns to gold. Whatever happened to "nothing ventured, nothing gained"? Johne has a few bucks he's willing to lose, and is willing to use those $$$ to help the DR economy...so what's the problem here? Again, John, I wish you the best of luck.
 
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Well he basically came on here and said,

"All of your hard-earned experience and cumulative wisdom are worthless to me and I am going to jump in and purposely do things many of you have cautioned not to and prove you all wrong, and I only want to hear from people who think I am doing the right thing"

Obviously he didn't say exactly that in those words but that's the message I am getting so far.

I am not sure there is an appropriate response for a statement like that, but if there is I am pretty sure it's not "I wish you well".
 

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I can feel this guy!

trina said:
AMEN.

I realize there are kind people like Chris, amongst others, who are only trying to help and offer words of advice that may help him succeed in the business world in the DR. I think maybe the better response to these offers (by Johne) would've been "thanks, but no thanks, this is what I want to do, and I'm going to do it anyways".

However, who knows? He may be one of those people that everything he touches turns to gold. Whatever happened to "nothing ventured, nothing gained"? Johne has a few bucks he's willing to lose, and is willing to use those $$$ to help the DR economy...so what's the problem here? Again, John, I wish you the best of luck.


I agree,

John seems to have what we call in NY the "Mitas touch" or what other people call the "golden touch". Please give this guy a chance instead of shooting him down. Posters are screaming that he is draining other business. Would it have been fair if these other successful businesses that were just starting out been shot down before they too had a chance at success? What is this "kill it before it grows" mentality? How can someone be successful if everyone wants to shoot him down before he has a chance?

Yes, my previous posts which were brought to light have mentioned that there are many things to understand in this country that you might take for granted in your home country. That does not mean in any way, shape or form to shoot down every person that comes down here to give it a shot in the business world. Once again, good luck John!
 
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AZB

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does scott have a business running in DR ?
I mean like a restuarant/bar or retail store.
AZB
 

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Anna Coniglio said:
I wonder why no one gave Escott this kind of advice? ;)
He did his homework and invested his time as well as his money in his real estate ventures. As far as other businesses, he in fact received plenty of cautionary advice. Hmm, haven't heard much about the restaurant lately.
 
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Sankybanky

I hope that John's venture is as profitable as SankyBanky has been for Scott.

Chuckuindy
 

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Anna Coniglio said:
He posted the begining of a business but no one gave him this kind of advice or warning. Not many. Why? because we know more about him.

http://www.dr1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41714

I talked to Escott about it personally and there are big differences.

1) Escott has been living and dealing in the DR for years.
2) His business plan does not depend on the local economy but is aimed at visiting foreigners with foreign money.
3) He's not trying to make money off his restaurant, he just wants to have fun.
4) He is not basing his whole venture on how strongly he believes in the ethics and dependability of Dominicans
5) He is going to be closely supervising his restaurant in person.
 

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Is his restaurant business still on the move? I thought he had frozen his construction on that project due to some problems. I maybe totally wrong.
AZB
 

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It's all clear to me now. The problem seems to be because this venture involves Dominicans. OK I get it now. ;)
 

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Anna, I love you and the way you think, just in case I haven't told you lately! :classic: You are totally classic.
 
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MrMike said:
Well he basically came on here and said,

"All of your hard-earned experience and cumulative wisdom are worthless to me and I am going to jump in and purposely do things many of you have cautioned not to and prove you all wrong, and I only want to hear from people who think I am doing the right thing"

Obviously he didn't say exactly that in those words but that's the message I am getting so far.

I am not sure there is an appropriate response for a statement like that, but if there is I am pretty sure it's not "I wish you well".


What i got out of the initial post is that "I have a new venture planned," and I think that the people down there in the DR are worth a shot( as employees). I think they can be relied upon and trusted no matter how pathetic many on this board think the LOW LIFEs of the DR are.

this thread followed closely behind the thread that delt with how people view the poor or barrio folk in the dr . So I figured it was a come back to that thread. Thats just my opinion,I dont know that it does have anything to do with any previous threads. But since he was attacked pretty aggresively early on, he went on the defense, and the thread became a battle ground at that point on the virtues good and bad buisnesses in the DR.

but then again I like to think positively, until it is obvious someone has changed my mind.........it happens here often......bob